Shonn Greene - Seen enough?

[CraigFL]

I picked up Powell in fantasy hoping the OC would realize what most of the posters already know.

[chirorob]

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

His runs to the outside were laughable, not even a remote possibility that he was going to beat someone and make any significant gain. The people in the bar I was at were mocking him

Watch any other team with their running backs. Guys who "pop" into the hole. Then watch our guy. No extra gear, no chance of breaking a run, no chance of getting anything that isn't there. Just run straight ahead and run into someone. Not over someone, just into them.

[Paradis]

why are we always horrible? Why is it always so difficult for us to try new things.

[Joe W. Namath]

why are we always horrible? We is always so difficult for us to try new things.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Arent you one of the kool aiders? Are you joining us on the dark side?

[OneTime]

And look at the difference in our cross-town rivals... Wilson in the doghouse, Bradshaw gets hurt, they plug in Brown and he runs wild (13 for 71, long of 23 with a TD).... makes me sick

Same thing happened in 2007 during their SB run... one guy got hurt, they plugged in another and no difference...

Either they draft much better RB depth or maybe the key is the OL

[Joe W. Namath]

And look at the difference in our cross-town rivals... Wilson in the doghouse, Bradshaw gets hurt, they plug in Brown and he runs wild (13 for 71, long of 23 with a TD).... makes me sick

Well greene got hurt, we plugged in Powell and he averaged 3 yards a carry. Its not like Powell was ripping off 20 yard runs.

[Nike]

the jets should have signed d.j ware when the giants released him.

[Paradis]

Originally Posted by OneTime

And look at the difference in our cross-town rivals... Wilson in the doghouse, Bradshaw gets hurt, they plug in Brown and he runs wild (13 for 71, long of 23 with a TD).... makes me sick

Same thing happened in 2007 during their SB run... one guy got hurt, they plugged in another and no difference...

Either they draft much better RB depth or maybe the key is the OL

Part of it is they move on. If memory serves, they were others who were inserted, but if it doesn't work, they move on. Next man up. Greene sucks? Benched. Powell's 1 dimension, seeing you on 3rd downs. Next man up.


And to be honest, Brown's being hanging around for years.

[OneTime]

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Well greene got hurt, we plugged in Powell and he averaged 3 yards a carry. Its not like Powell was ripping off 20 yard runs.

5.5 ypc vs 3 ypc is a significant difference... and Brown did rip off a 20 yard run. I watched both games is there is no comparison to the way Brown and Powell ran... with that said I would take EITHER over Greene, which is a sad statement.. arguably their #3 better than our #1

[Chupa]

What happened to this guy? He was an absolute animal in 2009

[OneTime]

Originally Posted by Paradis

Part of it is they move on. If memory serves, they were others who were inserted, but if it doesn't work, they move on. Next man up. Greene sucks? Benched. Powell's 1 dimension, seeing you on 3rd downs. Next man up.


And to be honest, Brown's being hanging around for years.

So maybe it is NOT all about the RB... maybe wither their OL, or more likely their multiple deep threats at WR opens up the running game...

[EM31]

I think we would be pretty hard pressed to find a worse 1,2 and 3 running back corps in the entire NFL.

Just sad really.

[Nike]

hard to address that now unless tanne can pull a trade similiar to the edwards deal years ago.

[suprjet]

This is a silly thread. Greene is our most physical runner and critical to our ball control offense. After he came out of the game in the 2nd quarter we weren't able to move the pile after moving them off the ball nicely the entire 1st quarter. In the second half we we're playing from behind and they mugged our receivers at the LOS and moved them off their routes/timing. They played physical defense. We are not yet an offense that can play from behind.

[OneTime]

You can find 10 or more teams with 2 RBs better than anyone on our roster... for example...

Houston: Foster/Tate
Carolina: Stewart/Williams
Buffalo: Jackson/Spiller
Chicago: Forte/Bush
KC: Charles/Hillis
Jacksonville: Jones-Drew/Jennings
Minnesota: Peterson/Gerhart
New Orleans: Ingram/Thomas/Sproles
Pittsburgh: Redman/Mendenhall
San Fran: Gore/Hunter

Could also argue...
St Louis: Jackson/Richardson
Washington: Morris/Helu
Giants: Bradshaw/Brown

and there are likely others where we just don't see enough of the #2

[Joe W. Namath]

After watching the fins game yesterday, Lamar Miller looked really good. Hes super fast and quick to the hole. And, he was still around in the 4th round of this years draft.

Miller and greene would have been a real nice tandem. Thunder and Lightning.

[Paradis]

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

After watching the fins game yesterday, Lamar Miller looked really good. Hes super fast and quick to the hole. And, he was still around in the 4th round of this years draft.

Miller and greene would have been a real nice tandem. Thunder and Lightning.

Well we spent a 4th this year on a guy who was supposed to be able to improve our ground attack. Tebow is supposed to be a RB how may opt to throw once every 40 snaps.

If his name had been anything other than Tebow, fans would have been pulling their hair out about why the guy who had 1 carry for 20 yards didn't get any more carries.

[jetsfan920]

We're better off with Powell starting. Greene is a one dimensional runner and cannot cut. Atleast Powell can run around the edges and cut in and out of blocks.

[EM31]

Originally Posted by suprjet

This is a silly thread. Greene is our most physical runner and critical to our ball control offense. After he came out of the game in the 2nd quarter we weren't able to move the pile after moving them off the ball nicely the entire 1st quarter. In the second half we we're playing from behind and they mugged our receivers at the LOS and moved them off their routes/timing. They played physical defense. We are not yet an offense that can play from behind.

The problem with Greene is that he is a fragile as a pane of glass yet he tries to run as if he were indestructible. The problem is not that he is a pane of glass. The problem lies in the fact that we have not recognized this fact and made changes accordingly.

Also he cannot block worth a damn and he cannot catch out of the backfield. He is also slow and has no real change of direction. He is a straight ahead runner to gets himself dinged up every game. Literally every game.

He is also the best runner we have on the team which is a sad commentary on the other two.

[Nike]

greene is a 1 dimensional rb. opposing defenses like pittsburgh know this and game plan for it. big deal we beat buffalo this offense needs alot of work.