Where are the leaders on this team?

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by EM31

With all the respect that is due to you I have to tell you that you are a complete and utter joke on here. Clueless does not even begin to describe the positions that you consistently take on these boards.

Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment.

Good teams do not go into a shell on the 31 yard line with a minute left on the clock and two timeouts when all they need to do is to get essentially two first downs. Good teams do not do that. Scared teams do that. Ryan showed his faith in our offense right there. I cannot think of a single good team who would ever do that. That is a golden opportunity on the road to go in tied or ahead before the half and instead we settled for not turning it over. Way to build a winning attitude right there.

There is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING you can dig up that proves this one way or the other. Rex said it today in his PC, if the first play at the 52 second mark broke a long gain, they would have went for it, which COMPLETELY nullifies your entire argument. Every team has to make decisions based on circumstance of the game, the opponent, and how the game is flowing, to me, Rex and Tony convened, called a play, weren't happy with the way the game was being played in the 2nd quarter, would have made a move move depending on outcome, they wanted to regroup at half time. The opponent plays this game too, there is a chess match happening on the field, we weren't playing a pushover team, we were playing a damn good team in their building where they have a history of dominance, especially in the opening game of the season. It's week 2, your argument is baseless and serves no purpose other than for you to get on your SOJF pedestal and start waiving your "I can do better Monday GM flags."

But go ahead and blame the refs for some calls that did not go our way while conveniently forgetting the significant number of bad calls that did go our way. Go ahead and blame a muffed punt or a bad play from Cromartie while ignoring the fact that this so called elite defense could not get the other team off the field all day long. Go ahead and continue to praise Rex and Bart for their leadership while failing to notice that their mouths are consistently writing checks that are not matched by their performances on game day.

Bad calls did go both ways, but when a call was made, and it was so damn obvious the call was wrong, and then the team challenged the play and it was STILL called WRONG, a SECOND TIME, when the REAL play that should have been called, was a knee down 7 yards before the fumble, I have a problem with it. I didn't praise Rex or Bart anywhere in my post, so I don't know what you're talking about. I guess like your SOJF rants, that sounded good too, eh?

Let's just go ahead and continue to praise the performance of the bean counter GM as he spends the better part of a decade trading away more draft picks than any other GM in football and then fail to notice that there is a relationship between the lack of depth on the roster and the the draft picks that every other team in football uses to build that depth. Go ahead and try to blame the so called same old Jets fans for all the ills of the world while failing to notice that there would not be any same old Jets fans to begin with if not for the fact that this franchise keeps serving up steady diet of the same old Jets.

Every village needs it's idiot I suppose.

I'll praise Tannenbaum for a body of work that for the most part is very good. There isn't a GM in this league that hasn't "missed" on draft picks, FA pick-ups, etc etc, you find me one, I'd like to see it. The Pats are a team that is successful for a myriad of reasons, LEAST of which is the performance of their GM, they are an average talent team, though the last couple of drafts seem to be better, all teams go through ups an downs with personnel decisions and turnover of their roster, the ONLY reason for the success of that Patriot team is because of the QB play. That same QB is now getting up in age, and suddenly, the Patriots look vulnerable against an unknown Cardinal team.

SOJF's come out of the woodwork, like yourself, after having to shut the **** up for a week because the team came out and did everything YOU and every other schmo said they couldn't, and come out guns a blazing after the first loss, complaining about whatever makes sense in your puny little minds, and start blasting away at every conjured up thought that has been regurgitated over every radio talk show, message board, ESPN hack show, and the local media because it all just sounds like it makes too much sense...

Instead, of maybe going a little deeper and trying to make sense of things, looking at the bigger picture, and maybe realizing that there is an opponent that plays this Jets team every week and should also get some of the credit. But SOJF doesn't want to read or hear that, the Jets lost, somebody needs to pay for it, right now, week 2 of the ****ing season...

There are 31 other teams in this league that all play the same game, 26 of the 32 teams are all 1-1 going into this weekend's games, but hey, SOJF's fans want the GM and coach gone after one loss, against an elite team, in their home opener, a place where they have a history of success on opening day...

I'm the one that is clueless and an utter joke?

Uhhhh, no... Look in the mirror!

[EM31]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

...<redacted drivel>...

You are the poster child for a small but vocal group of dimwits for whom nothing the Jets organization does is ever wrong. No missteps have ever been taken and the entire organization completely indistinguishable from perfection. Your main jollies seem to come from having elected yourselves as the policeman of what does or does not constitute "a real Jets fan" and then lecturing the rest of us as if you had been given some kind of a mandate from God almighty himself.

STFU

Take your sanctimonious never ending criticism of your fellow Jets fans somewhere else. Your stench is overpowering. The rest of us will stay and actually EXCHANGE opinions like civilized human beings. Yes, sometimes even different opinions. And yes, sometimes even opinions that are critical of ownership, management and coaching.

Now run along little man. I am sure there must be somebody somewhere who has not been tested recently for how good of a Jets fan they really are.

[southparkcpa]

Originally Posted by EM31

You are the poster child for a small but vocal group of dimwits for whom nothing the Jets organization does is ever wrong. No missteps have ever been taken and the entire organization completely indistinguishable from perfection. Your main jollies seem to come from having elected yourselves as the policeman of what does or does not constitute "a real Jets fan" and then lecturing the rest of us as if you had been given some kind of a mandate from God almighty himself.

STFU

Take your sanctimonious never ending criticism of your fellow Jets fans somewhere else. Your stench is overpowering. The rest of us will stay and actually EXCHANGE opinions like civilized human beings. Yes, sometimes even different opinions. And yes, sometimes even opinions that are critical of ownership, management and coaching.

Now run along little man. I am sure there must be somebody somewhere who has not been tested recently for how good of a Jets fan they really are.

[Kentucky Jet]

Originally Posted by McGinley

> have a bad game on the road against a deep playoff caliber team
> WE GOTZ NO LEADERS DOE!1!!

wat.

I do not understand that line of reasoning and excuse making. We were completely out-hit and out-toughed by an inferior team playing with several subs. It happened against Buffalo too in the second half. We have NO KILLER Instinct. Wake up and smell the coffee.

The Steelers were without their star safety; linebacker and running back! They never stopped hitting us right in the mouth no matter who they played our there. Never missed a step! We still are living in a dream world!!! We think we are a tough defense! At this point of the NFL season, we surely aren't! McIntyre was pretty good for us yesterday! He played with some fire. PLAY LIKE A JET is a myth and some fans believe it!

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by EM31

You are the poster child for a small but vocal group of dimwits for whom nothing the Jets organization does is ever wrong. No missteps have ever been taken and the entire organization completely indistinguishable from perfection. Your main jollies seem to come from having elected yourselves as the policeman of what does or does not constitute "a real Jets fan" and then lecturing the rest of us as if you had been given some kind of a mandate from God almighty himself.

Not anywhere in my post that you've elected to respond to do I suggest the organization never does any wrong.

I have no jollies, and I can easily make the same claim about some of you self-aggrandizing elitist clowns who label any Jets fan on this board that has a problem with your self-made entitlement and agenda on this board, so GFY.

STFU

Take your sanctimonious never ending criticism of your fellow Jets fans somewhere else. Your stench is overpowering. The rest of us will stay and actually EXCHANGE opinions like civilized human beings. Yes, sometimes even different opinions. And yes, sometimes even opinions that are critical of ownership, management and coaching.

Now run along little man. I am sure there must be somebody somewhere who has not been tested recently for how good of a Jets fan they really are.

No, I think I'll stay, and continue to expose the same sanctimonious chumps like you, and I'll do it for the better of the board, after all, that same group of homer patrolmen on this board want a diverse and balanced discourse.

It seems when you were way up high on that pedestal, you forgot the balance also includes Jets fans that can think a little past their *******s when it comes to condemning the team, and actually have a clue about the game, and aren't so full of themselves, that they don't even know that when calling another poster out for being uncivilized, they proceed to act and post in exactly the SAME arrogant fashion they SUPPOSEDLY are disgusted with.

Yep, I'll stay, provide that balance.

Let's remember, YOU were the one that decided to throw the first jab, lumping me in one of your posts that referenced sg3...

You decided to take a turn down this road, so let's dance *******!

[DDNYjets]

I knew this thread had potential.

[EM31]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Not anywhere in my post that you've elected to respond to do I suggest the organization never does any wrong.

I have no jollies, and I can easily make the same claim about some of you self-aggrandizing elitist clowns who label any Jets fan on this board that has a problem with your self-made entitlement and agenda on this board, so GFY.

No, I think I'll stay, and continue to expose the same sanctimonious chumps like you, and I'll do it for the better of the board, after all, that same group of homer patrolmen on this board want a diverse and balanced discourse.

It seems when you were way up high on that pedestal, you forgot the balance also includes Jets fans that can think a little past their *******s when it comes to condemning the team, and actually have a clue about the game, and aren't so full of themselves, that they don't even know that when calling another poster out for being uncivilized, they proceed to act and post in exactly the SAME arrogant fashion they SUPPOSEDLY are disgusted with.

Yep, I'll stay, provide that balance.

You provide all the balance and independent thinking of a Stepford wife but without any of redeeming qualities.

Please feel free to point out where you have been even remotely critical of any aspect of this franchise.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by EM31

You provide all the balance and independent thinking of a Stepford wife but without any of redeeming qualities.

Please feel free to point out where you have been even remotely critical of any aspect of this franchise.

It's out there, you're the arrogant smart guy, use the search feature, and look it up your ****ing self.

[EM31]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

It's out there, you're the arrogant smart guy, use the search feature, and look it up your ****ing self.

Thought so.

You do understand where you calling someone "arrogant" or "clueless" as you seem so fond of doing could come across as being just a tad ironic.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by EM31

Thought so.

You do understand where you calling someone "arrogant" or "clueless" as you seem so fond of doing could come across as being just a tad ironic.

Yes, as in your last 3 posts in this thread...

[sg3]

I apologize Ray. I guess when I informed IQ31 earlier today that he was wasting his keystrokes stalking me on just about every thread at JI because he was on PERMAFOREVER IGNORE, the SOJF clown must have decided to switch over and stalk you instead

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[EM31]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Yes, as in your last 3 posts in this thread...

Ah yes, well my use of the term "clueless", not really one of my personal favorites for that type of riposte was a direct response to your own usage here in this thread.

I thought you might have twigged on that one but I will be sure to try and use smaller words in the future. I am disappointed in you Ray.

remember... to... always... follow... the... bouncing... ball...

[EM31]

Originally Posted by sg3

I apologize Ray. I guess when I informed IQ31 earlier today that he was wasting his keystrokes stalking me on just about every thread at JI because he was on PERMAFOREVER IGNORE, the SOJF clown must have decided to switch over and stalk you instead

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This post continues to bring the win.

sg3. Another charter member of the "real" Jets fans litmus test club.

[EM31]

A pair of midgets I swear, congratulating each other on how tall the other one is.

No offense to any midgets I hasten to add. Some of my best friends...

Oh never mind.

[SAR I]

Originally Posted by EM31

You are the poster child for a small but vocal group of dimwits for whom nothing the Jets organization does is ever wrong. No missteps have ever been taken and the entire organization completely indistinguishable from perfection. Your main jollies seem to come from having elected yourselves as the policeman of what does or does not constitute "a real Jets fan" and then lecturing the rest of us as if you had been given some kind of a mandate from God almighty himself.

STFU

Take your sanctimonious never ending criticism of your fellow Jets fans somewhere else. Your stench is overpowering. The rest of us will stay and actually EXCHANGE opinions like civilized human beings. Yes, sometimes even different opinions. And yes, sometimes even opinions that are critical of ownership, management and coaching.

Now run along little man. I am sure there must be somebody somewhere who has not been tested recently for how good of a Jets fan they really are.

+1

Don't forget to ask him where the 12 wins he promised us are.

SAR I

[southparkcpa]

Originally Posted by EM31

A pair of midgets I swear, congratulating each other on how tall the other one is.

No offense to any midgets I hasten to add. Some of my best friends...

Oh never mind.

That is friggin awesome

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by SAR I

2. Rah Rah promised us 12 wins.

Was that before or after he was re-arranging the deck furniture on the Titanic?

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by EM31

You are the poster child for a small but vocal group of dimwits for whom nothing the Jets organization does is ever wrong.

Damn, I thought I owned RamRod and his ridiculous viewpoints.

31 just took ownership to another level.

[EM31]

Originally Posted by SAR I

+1

Don't forget to ask him where the 12 wins he promised us are.

SAR I

SAR,

It is an odd year with a somewhat weak schedule after a very tough start. Although I do not think we will get to 12 wins it is possible if the defense is really all that and the offense plays like it did against the Bills. I really do not know what to think about this team. I think Sanchez is better than most people think if only we can keep him relatively well protected. However we could also quite easily be a six win team if the defense continues to let other teams have their way with us. My sense is that we will be closer to six than twelve but we need to wait and see.

None of that changes my firm opinion that Mike Tanenbaum is completely over matched and needs to go. I think that Woody will not fire the GM on his own and nor will he give Tanny a free crack at picking a 3rd HC. No owner is that stupid. Therefore I think that all three of them, Tanny, Rex and Mark are welded together and will likely go as a single house cleaning day after the end of NEXT season.

Some dopes of course will not be able to identify even a single blemish on this franchise until that housecleaning day and after that day those same fans will feel free to blame the former administration for creating such a mess.

Stepford fans.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by SAR I

+1

Don't forget to ask him where the 12 wins he promised us are.

SAR I

Where is the promise?