NFL reveals sworn affidavit from G. Williams confirming Vilma’s bounty involvement

[McGinley]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/9/1...gregg-williams

Welp.

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by McGinley

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/9/1...gregg-williams

Welp.

So much for Warren Sapps inside info that it was Shockey that outed Vilma.

[Buzzsaw]

And Vilma continues to deny, deny, deny. Should've admitted it and pleaded for leniency.

[Gastineau99]

What a sellout G. Williams is. I hope he never gets another job.

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

And Vilma continues to deny, deny, deny. Should've admitted it and pleaded for leniency.

I dont know, at this point he might create enough doubt that the Judge might rule in his favor. You have one affidavit from Williams saying he did it,and 9 others saying he didnt. The lone accuser doesnt exactly have the best credibility seeing as he was the ring leader and banned from the NFL indefinitely.

[hatnlvr]

Originally Posted by Gastineau99

What a sellout G. Williams is. I hope he never gets another job.

He probably sold him out in hopes that his indefinite suspension could be lifted.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

I dont know, at this point he might create enough doubt that the Judge might rule in his favor. You have one affidavit from Williams saying he did it,and 9 others saying he didnt. The lone accuser doesnt exactly have the best credibility seeing as he was the ring leader and banned from the NFL indefinitely.

This!!!

I agree one sworn affidavit from one participant absent critical examination is hardly conclusive proof of Vima's guilt....

[DDNYjets]

Williams' word means nothing. His character is questionable to say the least. In a court it wouldn't hold up. But they aren't in a court now. Soon they will be with the defamation suit.

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

This!!!

I agree one sworn affidavit from one participant absent critical examination is hardly conclusive proof of Vima's guilt....

It also doesnt help that the affidavit signed by Williams was dated 9/14/12.

[Nike]

lets hope vilma wants out of new orleans and we get him back.

[Buzzsaw]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

I dont know, at this point he might create enough doubt that the Judge might rule in his favor. You have one affidavit from Williams saying he did it,and 9 others saying he didnt. The lone accuser doesnt exactly have the best credibility seeing as he was the ring leader and banned from the NFL indefinitely.

I could be wrong but I don't think the punishment is in the judge's hands. If Goodell decides Vilma offered the bounty, then he has the power to hand out the punishment. Maybe someone else can confirm?

[McGinley]

Thing is that Williams was the one running this whole thing, and if he says this guy was involved then I'm inclined to agree.

[JB1089]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Williams' word means nothing. His character is questionable to say the least. In a court it wouldn't hold up. But they aren't in a court now. Soon they will be with the defamation suit.

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

It also doesnt help that the affidavit signed by Williams was dated 9/14/12.

I agree with the above.

[jetstream23]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

It also doesnt help that the affidavit signed by Williams was dated 9/14/12.

Seriously?


So the 1 year suspension that Goodell gave to Vilma months ago was based on document that hadn't even been created yet? oh gawd.

[patman]

Originally Posted by jetstream23

Seriously?


So the 1 year suspension that Goodell gave to Vilma months ago was based on document that hadn't even been created yet? oh gawd.

No the evidence was given months ago, they just had Williams create a formal affidavit the other day. You only need the affidavit if you do not plan on appearing in person. We have enough lawyers on this site, somebody will chime in.

[escamoter2]

Originally Posted by McGinley

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/9/1...gregg-williams

Welp.

You obviously didn't see:

Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
“@TheDarbyPlace: @JonVilma51 how was he bullied? He's already suspended.”goodell has to reinstate him. its do wat i say or never coach again
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10h Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
You obviously want me to be guilty if you cant see that gregg was bullied to sign the affidavit. He signed 3days ago! #weakattempt
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10h Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
The nfl has 1 affidavit saying i did it. I have NINE saying i didnt. Do the math. Hush haters.
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[revischrist]

Originally Posted by patman

No the evidence was given months ago, they just had Williams create a formal affidavit the other day. You only need the affidavit if you do not plan on appearing in person. We have enough lawyers on this site, somebody will chime in.

This isn't a real trial, so the rules of evidence don't really apply. Generally, Affidavits are prepared for motions and are not presented at trials. They probably had this information all along and didn't need an affidavit from Williams because they are a private company doing things "their way."

Now that the courts overturned the ruling and basically told them to have more open hearings they were forced to collect the evidence in a more formal way (ie affidavits).

Basically, the date on the affidavit is completely irrelevant. I also don't see why people would call Williams into question. Yeah he was involved in a bounty program but there is no indication that he got a lighter sentence for squealing on Vilma.

We have seen athletes deny, deny, deny when they knew they were guilty (See steroid era baseball players that still deny despite the evidence or Lance Armstrong)

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by escamoter2

You obviously didn't see:

Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
“@TheDarbyPlace: @JonVilma51 how was he bullied? He's already suspended.”goodell has to reinstate him. its do wat i say or never coach again
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10h Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
You obviously want me to be guilty if you cant see that gregg was bullied to sign the affidavit. He signed 3days ago! #weakattempt
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10h Jonathan Vilma ‏@JonVilma51
The nfl has 1 affidavit saying i did it. I have NINE saying i didnt. Do the math. Hush haters.
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I already knew that. What I'm saying is that the affidavit the NFL has is from the CEO of Bounty, Inc.

It's not like the NFL has an affidavit from Billy Bob the janitor saying he overheard something. This is coming straight from the horse's mouth.

Is it true? Who knows. But, I'm inclined to believe Williams on who was involved.

[MysticalJet]

This is the typical prisoners dilemma at work.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by revischrist

This isn't a real trial, so the rules of evidence don't really apply. Generally, Affidavits are prepared for motions and are not presented at trials. They probably had this information all along and didn't need an affidavit from Williams because they are a private company doing things "their way."

Now that the courts overturned the ruling and basically told them to have more open hearings they were forced to collect the evidence in a more formal way (ie affidavits).

Basically, the date on the affidavit is completely irrelevant. I also don't see why people would call Williams into question. Yeah he was involved in a bounty program but there is no indication that he got a lighter sentence for squealing on Vilma.

We have seen athletes deny, deny, deny when they knew they were guilty (See steroid era baseball players that still deny despite the evidence or Lance Armstrong)

+1 So we have Williams who is playing the part of Hitler and Vilma who is playing Eichman denying the camps ever existed..