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Mathis81 · 09-19-2012, 07:39 PM

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That season-ending loss at Miami, where he was benched at the end of the fourth quarter, ending his year with him looking on from the sidelines? Santonio Holmes said it doesn't jog a memory.

"I don't even remember that game," Holmes said today. "Honestly."

Instead, Holmes said that when he steps foot in Sun Life Stadium he'll be looking forward to seeing his family.

That loss ended a tumultuous season for the Jets, starting an offseason in which they had to answer questions about their chemistry -- namely between Holmes and Mark Sanchez.

It led to questions about the relationship between the duo but Holmes said that all is well right now.

"We’re working great together," he said.

Earlier in the day Rex Ryan said that there miscommunication between the pair led to some of the struggles in the passing game for the Jets. Sanchez said today that when Holmes came into practice this week, he immediately went to work out the kinks with him and focus on the issues they had in Pittsburgh. The quarterback said his communication with Holmes is fine.

Holmes said all that ailed them against the Steelers is now past them.

"Pretty much past it, as of right now," Holmes said. "As a reciever and quarterback there are just somethings you talk about. When you miscommunicate throughout the game you find ways to fix it and I think that’s what we did today."

Mike Vorkunov: mvorkunov@starledger.com; Twitter: @Mike_Vorkunov

Ruby2 · 09-19-2012, 08:09 PM

Surprisingly doesn't make me want to bang my head against the wall as most Santonio articles usually do.

carlito1171 · 09-19-2012, 08:12 PM

He needs to get back to playing hard, running crisp routes, and stop crying like a lil girl for the refs to bail out his lazy play. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction, only time will tell.

PaPZ187 · 09-19-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by carlito1171

He needs to get back to playing hard, running crisp routes, and stop crying like a lil girl for the refs to bail out his lazy play. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction, only time will tell.

+1 We cant have our top wideout not giving it 110% on a consistent basis and expect to have an effective offense. He has the talent, just needs to man up and go hard regardless of the situation or circumstances.

FijiJet · 09-19-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaPZ187

+1 We cant have our top wideout not giving it 110% on a consistent basis and expect to have an effective offense. He has the talent, just needs to man up and go hard regardless of the situation or circumstances.

The guy quits way too easy

King Koopa · 09-19-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by carlito1171

He needs to get back to playing hard, running crisp routes, and stop crying like a lil girl for the refs to bail out his lazy play. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction, only time will tell.

He is playing hard......Ran a great route on that playaction which should have been TD #2 on the day if Sanchez hits a fairly easy throw

He does need to run better routes overall, but he is playing hard and Definitley wants to win.

He was actually getting mugged in Pittsburgh, and I have seen players asking for flags this season so much more for everything (Not just Holmes)

Can we ever get to the point of actually supporting our best Playmaker on offense? Yeah hes a jerkoff sometimes, but he's not THAT bad (Atleast this season), and getting him the ball a lot is good for our team........He does need to step it up, but our whole team was pretty bad against Pitt. Who can say they played great last Sunday?

124 · 09-20-2012, 08:31 AM

He doesn't remember "because I got high, because I got high, because I got high."

Snell41 · 09-20-2012, 08:39 AM

Holmes needs to figure out why balls keep bouncing off him like a cheap rent Hunts Point hooker.

JetsNeedNewton · 09-20-2012, 09:07 AM

We wasted an entire game at Pittsburg targeting this AH almost exclusively and he did nothing. A $45 mil waste of space.

Replace him with Schilens... oh but wait, when Schilens isn't hurt he turns invisible...

Well, we can run instead... that way we can get 2 yds per play. And with Keller back we can throw in some 3 yd passes on 3rd and 12...

I just depressed myself.

DDNYjets · 09-20-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton

We wasted an entire game at Pittsburg targeting this AH almost exclusively and he did nothing. A $45 mil waste of space.

Replace him with Schilens... oh but wait, when Schilens isn't hurt he turns invisible...

Well, we can run instead... that way we can get 2 yds per play. And with Keller back we can throw in some 3 yd passes on 3rd and 12...

I just depressed myself.

LOL. Our offense in a nutshell right there.

Important thing was Holmes was getting open, unfortunately he had drops. I don't expect Holmes to continue to drop the ball, he has great hands. If Holmes consistently get open like that, he will have a good year for us.

That said, he needs to step it up. At this point he is likely never going to justify his contract, but the same can be said for many players on the Jets.

BamaJets · 09-20-2012, 09:24 AM

Holmes really can be one of the best route runners out there, but it seems as if he only goes 100% when he knows he is the #1 option on the play. on those play-action passes ... he absolutely abuses DBs. the other times, though, half assn. that's doesn't work in the NFL.

feed Holmes the ball (assuming he holds onto it) and he is happy. when he is happy, he plays hard. not the way it should be, but that's the way it is.

And Hill needs to step up and start beating some coverage so things open up for Holmes.

GreenWave · 09-20-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

Holmes really can be one of the best route runners out there, but it seems as if he only goes 100% when he knows he is the #1 option on the play. on those play-action passes ... he absolutely abuses DBs. the other times, though, half assn. that's doesn't work in the NFL.

feed Holmes the ball (assuming he holds onto it) and he is happy. when he is happy, he plays hard. not the way it should be, but that's the way it is.

And Hill needs to step up and start beating some coverage so things open up for Holmes.

Very well said. I've watched the Panthers closely for years and this is exactly what Steve Smith was like before he matured. When he was in the game, no one DB could cover him. And he kept the chains moving. But if passes weren't coming his way, you'd see his attitude boiling up, and then when the QB finally did throw a pass his way, he'd fail to come down with it.

Like you said - right or wrong, it is what it is. Get Holmes the ball on some quick screens, slants, whatever it takes, and then when you fire the 20-yard in or the 15-yard out, Holmes comes down with it. He's a rhythm player.

If the Jets don't like it, well, that's why you don't give $50 mil to a player like that.

nycuse · 09-20-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by carlito1171

He needs to get back to playing hard, running crisp routes, and stop crying like a lil girl for the refs to bail out his lazy play. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction, only time will tell.

It would also help if he caught the ball when it hit his hands.

carlito1171 · 09-20-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by King Koopa

He is playing hard......Ran a great route on that playaction which should have been TD #2 on the day if Sanchez hits a fairly easy throw

He does need to run better routes overall, but he is playing hard and Definitley wants to win.

He was actually getting mugged in Pittsburgh, and I have seen players asking for flags this season so much more for everything (Not just Holmes)

Can we ever get to the point of actually supporting our best Playmaker on offense? Yeah hes a jerkoff sometimes, but he's not THAT bad (Atleast this season), and getting him the ball a lot is good for our team........He does need to step it up, but our whole team was pretty bad against Pitt. Who can say they played great last Sunday?

I havent been as down as some other posters here have been on him. But watching him run lazy routes then crying to officials to bail him out is not what we need right now.....

ColonelForbin · 09-20-2012, 10:16 AM

can we get rid of this guy yet

C Mart · 09-20-2012, 10:19 AM

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can we get rid of this guy yet

The far two right columns answers your question.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html

ColonelForbin · 09-20-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

The far two right columns answers your question.

http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html

exactly $$, that you have to put on Tann and Rex ... wtf are they thinking ? Holmes is a nutjob cancer case. i'm afraid to even think about where this Revis thing is going

Beerfish · 09-20-2012, 11:25 AM

If by miscommunicate he means my hands miscommunicated with the ball that was hitting them he has a point, no wonder he forgets about these games so quick.

Dreamers · 09-20-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Holmes needs to figure out why balls keep bouncing off him like a cheap rent Hunts Point hooker.

I don't get this reference. Anyone?

NPTJET53 · 09-20-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

Surprisingly doesn't make me want to bang my head against the wall as most Santonio articles usually do.

i was prepared to cringe at the next Santonio comment. I was expecting something like "well you know only top 5 qbs can make the throws sanchez was forcing"

09-19-2012, 07:39 PM	#1
Mathis81 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 304 Row 24 Posts: 2,235	Latest from Holmes http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/db_275148...tguid=iieVfBi4 That season-ending loss at Miami, where he was benched at the end of the fourth quarter, ending his year with him looking on from the sidelines? Santonio Holmes said it doesn't jog a memory. "I don't even remember that game," Holmes said today. "Honestly." Instead, Holmes said that when he steps foot in Sun Life Stadium he'll be looking forward to seeing his family. That loss ended a tumultuous season for the Jets, starting an offseason in which they had to answer questions about their chemistry -- namely between Holmes and Mark Sanchez. It led to questions about the relationship between the duo but Holmes said that all is well right now. "We’re working great together," he said. Earlier in the day Rex Ryan said that there miscommunication between the pair led to some of the struggles in the passing game for the Jets. Sanchez said today that when Holmes came into practice this week, he immediately went to work out the kinks with him and focus on the issues they had in Pittsburgh. The quarterback said his communication with Holmes is fine. Holmes said all that ailed them against the Steelers is now past them. "Pretty much past it, as of right now," Holmes said. "As a reciever and quarterback there are just somethings you talk about. When you miscommunicate throughout the game you find ways to fix it and I think that’s what we did today." Mike Vorkunov: mvorkunov@starledger.com; Twitter: @Mike_Vorkunov

09-19-2012, 08:09 PM	#2
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,015	Surprisingly doesn't make me want to bang my head against the wall as most Santonio articles usually do.

09-19-2012, 08:12 PM	#3
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	He needs to get back to playing hard, running crisp routes, and stop crying like a lil girl for the refs to bail out his lazy play. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction, only time will tell.

09-20-2012, 08:31 AM	#7
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,969	He doesn't remember "because I got high, because I got high, because I got high."

09-20-2012, 08:39 AM	#8
Snell41 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,492	Holmes needs to figure out why balls keep bouncing off him like a cheap rent Hunts Point hooker.

09-20-2012, 09:07 AM	#9
JetsNeedNewton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,679	We wasted an entire game at Pittsburg targeting this AH almost exclusively and he did nothing. A $45 mil waste of space. Replace him with Schilens... oh but wait, when Schilens isn't hurt he turns invisible... Well, we can run instead... that way we can get 2 yds per play. And with Keller back we can throw in some 3 yd passes on 3rd and 12... I just depressed myself.

09-20-2012, 09:24 AM	#11
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	Holmes really can be one of the best route runners out there, but it seems as if he only goes 100% when he knows he is the #1 option on the play. on those play-action passes ... he absolutely abuses DBs. the other times, though, half assn. that's doesn't work in the NFL. feed Holmes the ball (assuming he holds onto it) and he is happy. when he is happy, he plays hard. not the way it should be, but that's the way it is. And Hill needs to step up and start beating some coverage so things open up for Holmes.

09-20-2012, 10:16 AM	#15
ColonelForbin Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 387	can we get rid of this guy yet

09-20-2012, 11:25 AM	#18
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	If by miscommunicate he means my hands miscommunicated with the ball that was hitting them he has a point, no wonder he forgets about these games so quick.