Coples vs the field

[JetsMakeMeCry]

So i'm watching the seattle/packers game and bruce irvin looks dominant. meanwhile, melvin ingram and chandler jones are contributing.


...and we picked coples (who is bigger than all those guys but "too small" to put in against larger offensive lineman)

[detjetsfan]

Ingram doesn't even have a sack. Him and Coples have same # of tackles.

I don't know how good the Packers OL is. Ingram looked like Lawrence Taylor on steroids and a bowlfull of coke facing them and now Irvin, who looked miserable in preseason, all of a sudden looks good.

Give Coples a chance. He's playing DE in a 3-4 how many sacks you expect him to get while trying to occupy multiple blockers?

[JetsMakeMeCry]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Ingram doesn't even have a sack. Him and Coples have same # of tackles.

I don't know how good the Packers OL is. Ingram looked like Lawrence Taylor on steroids and a bowlfull of coke facing them and now Irvin, who looked miserable in preseason, all of a sudden looks good.

Give Coples a chance. He's playing DE in a 3-4 how many sacks you expect him to get while trying to occupy multiple blockers?

i dont care about sacks as much as the lack of confidence the coaching staff is showing in him in his less than 20% snaps. this guy was named starter after 1 day of training camp. now he's barely on the field

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by JetsMakeMeCry

i dont care about sacks as much as the lack of confidence the coaching staff is showing in him in his less than 20% snaps. this guy was named starter after 1 day of training camp. now he's barely on the field

He's a rookie and we have established veterans at the same position.

This is insane. People on this board are comparing him to Suckasse and even Gholston. What a joke.

[Kotch]

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

[NY's stepchild]

He's not playing in the 34. In fact he's not playing hardly at all. I think he rushed 11 times last game, and he had a hit, and a pressure. They need to get him out there. The real problem against Miami was Pouha. His back must not be right because he wasn't doubled all game and he got pushed back quite a few times. I've never seen that. He normally can't be moved by two guys. On the bright side Wilkerson was doubled most of the game and he more than held his own. His biggest problem is staying in his lane and trying to peak around his man. Sometimes he ends up getting in Harris' way trying to fill. Ellis was only in about 20 plays and he did very well as well. These guys need more playing time, and hopefully Pouha gets back to being himself now that we have a few home games. Dixon is gone again, and he has play very poorly getting pushed around.

[Ruby2]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

Awesome post

So true

Well done

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

He's not playing in the 34. In fact he's not playing hardly at all. I think he rushed 11 times last game, and he had a hit, and a pressure. They need to get him out there. The real problem against Miami was Pouha. His back must not be right because he wasn't doubled all game and he got pushed back quite a few times. I've never seen that. He normally can't be moved by two guys. On the bright side Wilkerson was doubled most of the game and he more than held his own. His biggest problem is staying in his lane and trying to peak around his man. Sometimes he ends up getting in Harris' way trying to fill. Ellis was only in about 20 plays and he did very well as well. These guys need more playing time, and hopefully Pouha gets back to being himself now that we have a few home games. Dixon is gone again, and he has play very poorly getting pushed around.

+1

Very good post by someone who clearly watches the games.


Wilk has actually played very well under the radar. Pouha has not been himself at all and is pushed off the LOS. We were supposed to go with more of a 4-3 D this season but our LB's are too slow. Coples consistently playing in 4 man fronts will eventually become Pierre-Paul or Mario Williams.


Pace, Scott, Harris and Thomas are all too slow to play in a 3-4 let alone 4-3. We need to draft LB's in a bad way next season.

[CleatMarks]

I've got to say, clever title...made me chuckle when I read it...


What's surprising so far isn't that he's not made an impact...rookies often don't. What's surprising is that he's been limited in snaps when he flashed in preseason...even if it was against the second team a lot of time. You would think that his play earned him more snaps to see what he's got against the first team...maybe they're just working him in...who knows.

[srobjets]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

The last one is kinda true. I can't name anyone drafted by the Jets in the last 5 years that actually lived up to the hype.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by JetsMakeMeCry

i dont care about sacks as much as the lack of confidence the coaching staff is showing in him in his less than 20% snaps. this guy was named starter after 1 day of training camp. now he's barely on the field

Speculation he was sick yesterday. Didn't have much in his tank.

[southparkcpa]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

our draft picks and total trading of draft picks does suck or is at least the work of a 500 teams front office.

[Buzzsaw]

It's concerning that he's barely playing. We don't have three years to wait for him to develop, we need him playing and contributing, soon.

[Buzzsaw]

Originally Posted by CleatMarks

I've got to say, clever title...made me chuckle when I read it...


What's surprising so far isn't that he's not made an impact...rookies often don't. What's surprising is that he's been limited in snaps when he flashed in preseason...even if it was against the second team a lot of time. You would think that his play earned him more snaps to see what he's got against the first team...maybe they're just working him in...who knows.

Yep, agree

[NY's stepchild]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

They do a lot of underestimating teams that we play. The Bills and Miami are both better than people think. You know the Fish destroyed the Raiders last week, and the Raiders beat Pittsburgh this week. So you try and figure who's the best team BCS style. It's not easy playing in South Florida in September. I watched the Bills and they look pretty good too. I watched San Fran this week too, and they didn't look very good. It's not obvious why things happen the way they do. Football is a game of inches. There's little difference between a TD, and an int. Small variables make a big difference. People love to talk talking like they know what's going to happen when they really have no clue. You have to find out why plays go wrong, or why they go right before you run your mouth., Well you obviously don't have to, but you see how foolish they make themselves look. The Jets can put this all together. They are just a little off from being very good on offense, and dominant on defense. Last year they didn't have the speed or athleticism at WR, and they had Shotty. This year they're very close. Hopefully they put it all together.

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

LOL.

Long live SOJF.

[southparkcpa]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

LOL.

Long live SOJF.

When you grow up and play tee ball without score and an environment where everyone gets a trophy...well, this is the result.

some people are always so close but never get there. makes them happy.

[srobjets]

Originally Posted by JetsMakeMeCry

So i'm watching the seattle/packers game and bruce irvin looks dominant. meanwhile, melvin ingram and chandler jones are contributing.


...and we picked coples (who is bigger than all those guys but "too small" to put in against larger offensive lineman)

Does couples even know what the field looks like? The field has won so far. Another one of the BUST KINGS picks.

[NewYorkSackExchange]

Originally Posted by Kotch

Some people watch other teams' games because they love football.

Some people watch other teams' games because they have $ on the game.

Some people watch other teams' games because they play fantasy football and have players or opponents playing.

Jets fans watch other teams' games to prove to themselves that our draft picks suck.

holy sh&t, I am laughing so hard. .. so true. . ..

" You know you're a Jets fan when ______________"

[positive]

Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

He's not playing in the 34. In fact he's not playing hardly at all. I think he rushed 11 times last game, and he had a hit, and a pressure. They need to get him out there. The real problem against Miami was Pouha. His back must not be right because he wasn't doubled all game and he got pushed back quite a few times. I've never seen that. He normally can't be moved by two guys. On the bright side Wilkerson was doubled most of the game and he more than held his own. His biggest problem is staying in his lane and trying to peak around his man. Sometimes he ends up getting in Harris' way trying to fill. Ellis was only in about 20 plays and he did very well as well. These guys need more playing time, and hopefully Pouha gets back to being himself now that we have a few home games. Dixon is gone again, and he has play very poorly getting pushed around.

You are correct on every point. Pouha looked terrible and is clearly suffering from his injury. Wilkerson was fine though not stellar. Devito was lackluster. Ellis was clearly way better than Pouha. Coples looked like he was playing to not make a mistake. Still, he held his own against double teams. During one play, Coples drew a quadruple team allowing Landry to put a hit on the QB (unfortunately a PI penalty continued the drive.)