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jets80 · 10-03-2012, 07:52 AM

Holy **** !!. You all think its a QB change that will turn this thing around, you clearly have not watched a game this season. We have zero running game, we have nobody at receiver, a average TE (thats has not been on the field)..What do think a change of qb will do?..Tebow..seems every time the guy takes the field any momentum we had goes out the window and Mark ends up with a 3rd and six or longer

..I wish they would let Mark go, I know this cant happen but gezzz would love to see this kid with a supporting cast around him..Almost forgot he had a supporting cast at one point, and what happened?...2 AFC championship games..short memories..

EM31 · 10-03-2012, 07:56 AM

The supporting cast is weak to say the least but Mark is worse than the worst of them. Just because they are bad does not remove the stench that he generates all on his own.

Tai-Mai-Shu · 10-03-2012, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

Holy **** !!. You all think its a QB change that will turn this thing around, you clearly have not watched a game this season. We have zero running game, we have nobody at receiver, a average TE (thats has not been on the field)..What do think a change of qb will do?..Tebow..seems every time the guy takes the field any momentum we had goes out the window and Mark ends up with a 3rd and six or longer

..I wish they would let Mark go, I know this cant happen but gezzz would love to see this kid with a supporting cast around him..Almost forgot he had a supporting cast at one point, and what happened?...2 AFC championship games..short memories..

Yes.

Dunnie · 10-03-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

Holy **** !!. You all think its a QB change that will turn this thing around, you clearly have not watched a game this season. We have zero running game, we have nobody at receiver, a average TE (thats has not been on the field)..What do think a change of qb will do?..Tebow..seems every time the guy takes the field any momentum we had goes out the window and Mark ends up with a 3rd and six or longer

..I wish they would let Mark go, I know this cant happen but gezzz would love to see this kid with a supporting cast around him..Almost forgot he had a supporting cast at one point, and what happened?...2 AFC championship games..short memories..

Affirmative

patman · 10-03-2012, 08:15 AM

A qb change is not going to turn the team around, however you can not keep trotting out an ineffective player at QB. Just because he is the QB does not leave him not accountable for his poor play.

A coach can not send a message by benching the borderline RG, SS or whatever. Coaches motivate the team by going after the high profile guy as a show.

Everyone has to be accountable, if the qb is ineffective and the coach does nothing it shows some players that he is not doing all he can to win the next game.

Mark should be given at least 4 more games, if his stays the same then Rex needs to see what he has behind him. You can't go into the off season not knowing what you have in McCelroy or Tebow.

Dunnie · 10-03-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by patman

A qb change is not going to turn the team around, however you can not keep trotting out an ineffective player at QB. Just because he is the QB does not leave him not accountable for his poor play.

A coach can not send a message by benching the borderline RG, SS or whatever. Coaches motivate the team by going after the high profile guy as a show.

Everyone has to be accountable, if the qb is ineffective and the coach does nothing it shows some players that he is not doing all he can to win the next game.

Mark should be given at least 4 more games, if his stays the same then Rex needs to see what he has behind him. You can't go into the off season not knowing what you have in McCelroy or Tebow.

Excellent post ... I believe even Brady had to sit once.

JETranger 206B · 10-03-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

Holy **** !!. You all think its a QB change that will turn this thing around, you clearly have not watched a game this season. We have zero running game, we have nobody at receiver, a average TE (thats has not been on the field)..What do think a change of qb will do?..Tebow..seems every time the guy takes the field any momentum we had goes out the window and Mark ends up with a 3rd and six or longer

..I wish they would let Mark go, I know this cant happen but gezzz would love to see this kid with a supporting cast around him..Almost forgot he had a supporting cast at one point, and what happened?...2 AFC championship games..short memories..

Yup

FMJets · 10-03-2012, 08:22 AM

Im with ya!
Tebow not the answer only a side show. Sooner or later though the call will come from the top (Woody) to put him in. Definately not against the Texans as it will make him look even more ridiculous. If not the Colts it will be after the Bye as Bellicheck knows how to game plan him.

The only way to save Mark is to let him play out of this mess without Tone time. 4 Rec sets in shotgun. 2 TE sets. For god sakes put Mcnight in. Scrap the wildcat. Give him the green light to take off after 2 sec when no one is open. Might even get more than 3 yards which is about our running game.

Mark ....dont play scared or afraid to get injured, cause you are on the brink of getting benched.

Austin · 10-03-2012, 08:23 AM

QB is far from the only problem with this team (so I'm in no rush to start Tebow, who I think is worse, if that's possible) but it's still the biggest.

People don't seem to realize how loaded the 08-10 Jets were... Sanchez apologists keep acting like "if we give him a supporting cast" he'll be fine. In 09-10 he had THE BEST SUPPORTING CAST IN THE LEAGUE.

If Favre comes back in 09 instead of bailing to the Vikings, we win the Super Bowl.

Sh*t, if we have a halfway competent QB in 09 we win the Super Bowl. The single biggest mistake we've made in the Rex era is drafting Sanchez instead of going with a competent journeyman... We'd have a ring or two if we had.

jets80 · 10-03-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by patman

A qb change is not going to turn the team around, however you can not keep trotting out an ineffective player at QB. Just because he is the QB does not leave him not accountable for his poor play.

A coach can not send a message by benching the borderline RG, SS or whatever. Coaches motivate the team by going after the high profile guy as a show.

Everyone has to be accountable, if the qb is ineffective and the coach does nothing it shows some players that he is not doing all he can to win the next game.

Mark should be given at least 4 more games, if his stays the same then Rex needs to see what he has behind him. You can't go into the off season not knowing what you have in McCelroy or Tebow.

Romo just threw 5 picks on mon. night..No talk about a qb change there, they are addressing the real problem...O-line, Dez...

SouthTown · 10-03-2012, 08:25 AM

SAY NO TO TEBOW

jets80 · 10-03-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin

QB is far from the only problem with this team (so I'm in no rush to start Tebow, who I think is worse, if that's possible) but it's still the biggest.

People don't seem to realize how loaded the 08-10 Jets were... Sanchez apologists keep acting like "if we give him a supporting cast" he'll be fine. In 09-10 he had THE BEST SUPPORTING CAST IN THE LEAGUE.

If Favre comes back in 09 instead of bailing to the Vikings, we win the Super Bowl.

Sh*t, if we have a halfway competent QB in 09 we win the Super Bowl. The single biggest mistake we've made in the Rex era is drafting Sanchez instead of going with a competent journeyman... We'd have a ring or two if we had.

So I guess you are saying Sanchez lost the Championship game against the steelers...hmmmmm...Like I said short memories.

Austin · 10-03-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

Romo just threw 5 picks on mon. night..No talk about a qb change there, they are addressing the real problem...O-line, Dez...

That's because Tony Romo has consistently been a top ten QB going on 5-6 years.

Mark Sanchez has consistently been a bottom ten QB (and that might be generous) going on 4 years.

People who are honestly comparing Romo and Sanchez are living in a fantasy land. Talk to anyone who isn't a Jets fan and they think Mark Sanchez is bottom 2 or 3 in the NFL.

Apache 51 · 10-03-2012, 08:27 AM

Blind isn't the word.

Austin · 10-03-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

So I guess you are saying Sanchez lost the Championship game against the steelers...hmmmmm...Like I said short memories.

Getting shutout in the first half and giving them a turnover to the house was a huge factor in losing that game, yes.

The reality is, that team sold out to beat the Pats and had nothing less. That doesn't fall on anyone specifically. They weren't really that good.

But they might have been with a legitimate QB at the helm.

Dunnie · 10-03-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jets80

So I guess you are saying Sanchez lost the Championship game against the steelers...hmmmmm...Like I said short memories.

I'm sorry ... Are you saying he won the game ? Because if he did I thought we would have ... You know ... Actually Gone to the SB.

jets80 · 10-03-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FMJets

Im with ya!
Tebow not the answer only a side show. Sooner or later though the call will come from the top (Woody) to put him in. Definately not against the Texans as it will make him look even more ridiculous. If not the Colts it will be after the Bye as Bellicheck knows how to game plan him.

The only way to save Mark is to let him play out of this mess without Tone time. 4 Rec sets in shotgun. 2 TE sets. For god sakes put Mcnight in. Scrap the wildcat. Give him the green light to take off after 2 sec when no one is open. Might even get more than 3 yards which is about our running game.

Mark ....dont play scared or afraid to get injured, cause you are on the brink of getting benched.

Now you are talking I love it....evryone wants to go in a shell ****-it spread em out attack..Rollem out if it aint there take off..

SouthTown · 10-03-2012, 08:30 AM

Tebow is NOT the answer.

This whole team sucks.

jets80 · 10-03-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunnie

I'm sorry ... Are you saying he won the game ? Because if he did I thought we would have ... You know ... Actually Gone to the SB.

No I am saying the defense lost the game in the first half...The only bright spot was Mark pushing that team in the second half..Wake up man ...Wake up

Apache 51 · 10-03-2012, 08:34 AM

Still talking about the past and the D, they are not the big concern here.

10-03-2012, 07:52 AM	#1
jets80 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cocoa Beach, Fl Posts: 3,212	Are some of you blind? Holy **** !!. You all think its a QB change that will turn this thing around, you clearly have not watched a game this season. We have zero running game, we have nobody at receiver, a average TE (thats has not been on the field)..What do think a change of qb will do?..Tebow..seems every time the guy takes the field any momentum we had goes out the window and Mark ends up with a 3rd and six or longer..I wish they would let Mark go, I know this cant happen but gezzz would love to see this kid with a supporting cast around him..Almost forgot he had a supporting cast at one point, and what happened?...2 AFC championship games..short memories..

10-03-2012, 07:56 AM	#2
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,150	The supporting cast is weak to say the least but Mark is worse than the worst of them. Just because they are bad does not remove the stench that he generates all on his own.

10-03-2012, 08:15 AM	#5
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	A qb change is not going to turn the team around, however you can not keep trotting out an ineffective player at QB. Just because he is the QB does not leave him not accountable for his poor play. A coach can not send a message by benching the borderline RG, SS or whatever. Coaches motivate the team by going after the high profile guy as a show. Everyone has to be accountable, if the qb is ineffective and the coach does nothing it shows some players that he is not doing all he can to win the next game. Mark should be given at least 4 more games, if his stays the same then Rex needs to see what he has behind him. You can't go into the off season not knowing what you have in McCelroy or Tebow.

10-03-2012, 08:22 AM	#8
FMJets Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 294	Im with ya! Tebow not the answer only a side show. Sooner or later though the call will come from the top (Woody) to put him in. Definately not against the Texans as it will make him look even more ridiculous. If not the Colts it will be after the Bye as Bellicheck knows how to game plan him. The only way to save Mark is to let him play out of this mess without Tone time. 4 Rec sets in shotgun. 2 TE sets. For god sakes put Mcnight in. Scrap the wildcat. Give him the green light to take off after 2 sec when no one is open. Might even get more than 3 yards which is about our running game. Mark ....dont play scared or afraid to get injured, cause you are on the brink of getting benched.

10-03-2012, 08:23 AM	#9
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,187	QB is far from the only problem with this team (so I'm in no rush to start Tebow, who I think is worse, if that's possible) but it's still the biggest. People don't seem to realize how loaded the 08-10 Jets were... Sanchez apologists keep acting like "if we give him a supporting cast" he'll be fine. In 09-10 he had THE BEST SUPPORTING CAST IN THE LEAGUE. If Favre comes back in 09 instead of bailing to the Vikings, we win the Super Bowl. Sh*t, if we have a halfway competent QB in 09 we win the Super Bowl. The single biggest mistake we've made in the Rex era is drafting Sanchez instead of going with a competent journeyman... We'd have a ring or two if we had.

10-03-2012, 08:25 AM	#11
SouthTown Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,073	SAY NO TO TEBOW

10-03-2012, 08:27 AM	#14
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,636	Blind isn't the word.

10-03-2012, 08:30 AM	#18
SouthTown Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,073	Tebow is NOT the answer. This whole team sucks.

10-03-2012, 08:34 AM	#20
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,636	Still talking about the past and the D, they are not the big concern here.