Last year it was Fire Schotty, this year its fire Tanny, next year? - Jets Insider.com Forums

LadainianIMnotDONE · 10-03-2012, 10:30 PM

Firing seems to be the easy fix around here. Apparently we got to 2 AFCC with terrible coaches, players, and a terrible GM. How the hell did we do any of that with this group of morons?

CTjetfan52 · 10-03-2012, 10:30 PM

Fire Woody-what a clueless tool..

EM31 · 10-03-2012, 10:32 PM

GMs seem to get at least seven years around here so things should be pretty stable after Tanny goes.

LadainianIMnotDONE · 10-03-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CTjetfan52

Fire Woody-what a clueless tool..

Fire Fireman Ed ... his act is wearing thin and the fans aren't as motivated in the stadium in home games.

detjetsfan · 10-03-2012, 10:40 PM

Fire Woody

EM31 · 10-03-2012, 10:50 PM

Tanny has to go. The new guy and his new head coach (if he wants a new one) get at least three years to show they are on the right track. Some people might think we can become competetive in two years but we need to be realistic about just how deep the talent deficit is here that we are going to try and dig out of.

But

Tanny

Has

To

Go.

He is a fu^&ing disaster. It all begins and ends with him since Woody is immune.

adpz · 10-03-2012, 10:58 PM

Uh, so what's the point? We shouldn't fire people when they don't perform?

So - we stay here with the status quo? Stick with Mark next year. Let Rex and Tanny run another draft. The team is going to have huge question marks at CB and WR next year; we'll likely be losing our 'starting' FB TE and RB and parts of our line. Add in the big injuries.

So we should have the same guys cleaning up the mess they've made?

I against I · 10-03-2012, 11:09 PM

Here's to the Mayans!

RoadFan · 10-03-2012, 11:47 PM

Have you looked at Sam Bradford's numbers? He had a good game against the Redskins....but everybody does. He was lousy in the other 3. As soon as the NFC West gets wise to Schitty's gameplans, and it won't take long, the Rams offense is destined for bottom 5 and Bradford is doomed to failure. Schitty still sucks. The only thing that changed is now we can be sure that Mark is not the answer at QB.

chrisjets23 · 10-04-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by LadainianIMnotDONE

Firing seems to be the easy fix around here. Apparently we got to 2 AFCC with terrible coaches, players, and a terrible GM. How the hell did we do any of that with this group of morons?

I think it's because the organization got complacent. I never was a fan of Tanny's draft strategy of "quality over quantity". If that's the strategy, then as a GM you have to be near perfect. How many years did they go into the draft having anywhere from 3-5 picks total? Plus, Jets have went around in circles replacing talent over the past few years.

JB1089 · 10-04-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisjets23

I think it's because the organization got complacent. I never was a fan of Tanny's draft strategy of "quality over quantity". If that's the strategy, then as a GM you have to be near perfect. How many years did they go into the draft having anywhere from 3-5 picks total? Plus, Jets have went around in circles replacing talent over the past few years.

The draft is a crapshoot, but you need to come away with quality players in order to have sustained success. That's why you don't throw away picks for guys that are only going to be on the team for a year or two.

The Patriots have a bad hit% in the draft, but they give themselves so many shots at it that they get a couple of productive guys from it almost every year.

Baltimore just seems to sit back and take players that fall below their projections. Works really well for them. "Oh look, Terrence Cody is still on the board. He wasn't supposed to be here. We'll take him."

The Falcons made a big move up in the draft after they had their whole team, more or less, in place. QB, running game, offensive line, good enough defense (by 2012 standards). So they decided to move up for Julio Jones and take their offense to the next level.

We move up in the draft with holes all over the roster. What do we need next year? QB, RB, WR, TE, G, OL depth, LB, pass rusher, S (Bell is old, Smith is gone), CB depth. We have no hope of filling all of that in just one draft, but we need to come away with as many guys as possible. If we wind up in the 7-10 range this year, I want us to trade down.

JerseyJet80 · 10-04-2012, 12:17 AM

fire everyone and hire all JI members

srobjets · 10-04-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LadainianIMnotDONE

Firing seems to be the easy fix around here. Apparently we got to 2 AFCC with terrible coaches, players, and a terrible GM. How the hell did we do any of that with this group of morons?

Well its good to rest on ones past accomplishments. No need to focus on what is happening in the present. No need to admit that the so called management is a farse. No need to realize that this team is so over rated and that Tanny and Rex are the reasons why, but all is good we lost back to back AFC championship games. Both games showed all of the fans that Rex was not ready, and the team only showed up for half of these two games. Keep looking back as the rest of the NFL teams pass us by.

Dirtstar · 10-04-2012, 08:44 AM

STL's offense is worse than ours, even after taking into account last Sundays shutout.

so if this is a pro-Schotty thread, it pfails in many ways.

Tinstar · 10-04-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RoadFan

Have you looked at Sam Bradford's numbers? He had a good game against the Redskins....but everybody does. He was lousy in the other 3. As soon as the NFC West gets wise to Schitty's gameplans, and it won't take long, the Rams offense is destined for bottom 5 and Bradford is doomed to failure. Schitty still sucks. The only thing that changed is now we can be sure that Mark is not the answer at QB.

You know the really sad part is that u had to get rid of someone to prove that this QB is horrible. Do u guys ever actually watch the games . Let me let u in on something.
Even after the Jets win on monday night, i will fire Rex Ryan.

bgivs21 · 10-04-2012, 11:49 AM

2013 Chant: Fire Woody!!!

Beerfish · 10-04-2012, 11:55 AM

If getting to two AFC champ games (being massively lucky to make the playoffs each year) is good enough for you then by all means keep them on.

I would say if the team went like this...

Look very bad after 4 games...
Miss playoffs 8-8 with some lucky wins
Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game.
Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game but look better.

You would have no one calling for heads. Instead it went like this....

Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game.
Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game but look better.
Miss playoffs 8-8 with some lucky wins.
Look very bad after 4 games.

We are NOT on the upswing, the graph is trend downward sharply.

jetlifer · 10-04-2012, 12:00 PM

the team has a dearth of talent which is a direct reflection on the GM, Mr. T and the scouting department.

There was a reason why Rex was passed over numerous times for HC by other teams...and we are now seeing it manifested in living color. He just isn't equipped to be the head man.

There will be a clean sweep of these two guys and the only question is when it will happen.

EM31 · 10-04-2012, 12:19 PM

The cupboard is bare and Mike T. buys the groceries. What is difficult to understand here?

JamesR · 10-05-2012, 08:44 AM

After you fire the GM and get a new one (which usually results in a new HC too, plus usually OC / DC etc) the fans then turn on the players - they were drafted by the OLD regime, so can't be any good. After a couple of years of "cut this guy", "cut that guy", then it turns once again to the co-ordinators ("fire Schotty"

). So you turn them over, then it's back to the HC / GM ... and the cycle continues.

In NY, of course, this usually all happens over 1 season, not several.

10-03-2012, 10:30 PM	#1
LadainianIMnotDONE All League Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,629	Last year it was Fire Schotty, this year its fire Tanny, next year? Firing seems to be the easy fix around here. Apparently we got to 2 AFCC with terrible coaches, players, and a terrible GM. How the hell did we do any of that with this group of morons?

10-03-2012, 10:30 PM	#2
CTjetfan52 grateful for the love and joy still to be sharedin this world All Pro Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,400	Fire Woody-what a clueless tool..

10-03-2012, 10:32 PM	#3
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,147	GMs seem to get at least seven years around here so things should be pretty stable after Tanny goes.

10-03-2012, 10:40 PM	#5
detjetsfan Supports Coach Ryan All League Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,999	Fire Woody

10-03-2012, 10:50 PM	#6
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,147	Tanny has to go. The new guy and his new head coach (if he wants a new one) get at least three years to show they are on the right track. Some people might think we can become competetive in two years but we need to be realistic about just how deep the talent deficit is here that we are going to try and dig out of. But Tanny Has To Go. He is a fu^&ing disaster. It all begins and ends with him since Woody is immune.

10-03-2012, 10:58 PM	#7
adpz Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,002	Uh, so what's the point? We shouldn't fire people when they don't perform? So - we stay here with the status quo? Stick with Mark next year. Let Rex and Tanny run another draft. The team is going to have huge question marks at CB and WR next year; we'll likely be losing our 'starting' FB TE and RB and parts of our line. Add in the big injuries. So we should have the same guys cleaning up the mess they've made?

10-03-2012, 11:09 PM	#8
I against I drinks from the poison well Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jackson Heights Posts: 2,212	Here's to the Mayans!

10-03-2012, 11:47 PM	#9
RoadFan is tired of the Jets missing on their 2nd round picks. Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 1,855	Have you looked at Sam Bradford's numbers? He had a good game against the Redskins....but everybody does. He was lousy in the other 3. As soon as the NFC West gets wise to Schitty's gameplans, and it won't take long, the Rams offense is destined for bottom 5 and Bradford is doomed to failure. Schitty still sucks. The only thing that changed is now we can be sure that Mark is not the answer at QB.

10-04-2012, 12:17 AM	#12
JerseyJet80 bring back the beard! All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 2,733	fire everyone and hire all JI members

10-04-2012, 08:44 AM	#14
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,782	STL's offense is worse than ours, even after taking into account last Sundays shutout. so if this is a pro-Schotty thread, it pfails in many ways.

10-04-2012, 11:49 AM	#16
bgivs21 Sexy Rexy, the toe Slinger Rookie Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 510	2013 Chant: Fire Woody!!!

10-04-2012, 11:55 AM	#17
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,066	If getting to two AFC champ games (being massively lucky to make the playoffs each year) is good enough for you then by all means keep them on. I would say if the team went like this... Look very bad after 4 games... Miss playoffs 8-8 with some lucky wins Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game. Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game but look better. You would have no one calling for heads. Instead it went like this.... Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game. Make playoffs with some lucky breaks AFC champ game but look better. Miss playoffs 8-8 with some lucky wins. Look very bad after 4 games. We are NOT on the upswing, the graph is trend downward sharply.

10-04-2012, 12:00 PM	#18
jetlifer hopes that John Idzik can clean up this mess Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 842	the team has a dearth of talent which is a direct reflection on the GM, Mr. T and the scouting department. There was a reason why Rex was passed over numerous times for HC by other teams...and we are now seeing it manifested in living color. He just isn't equipped to be the head man. There will be a clean sweep of these two guys and the only question is when it will happen.

10-04-2012, 12:19 PM	#19
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,147	The cupboard is bare and Mike T. buys the groceries. What is difficult to understand here?

10-05-2012, 08:44 AM	#20
JamesR All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 4,812	After you fire the GM and get a new one (which usually results in a new HC too, plus usually OC / DC etc) the fans then turn on the players - they were drafted by the OLD regime, so can't be any good. After a couple of years of "cut this guy", "cut that guy", then it turns once again to the co-ordinators ("fire Schotty" ). So you turn them over, then it's back to the HC / GM ... and the cycle continues. In NY, of course, this usually all happens over 1 season, not several.