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detjetsfan · 10-04-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by revischrist

You know how bad the Jets offense has been? Well the rams have scored less than the Jets so far this season.

They won a lucky game against Russell Wilson yay.

Schotty's still out of the league in 2 years after the Rams fire him.

First DOWN! · 10-04-2012, 10:06 PM

Sparano was a lateral move. I don't see why Rex co-signed that signing. He must have known Sparano was awful.

DDNYjets · 10-04-2012, 10:13 PM

We went from the worst OC to the second worst OC. Our skilled positions have to be the weakest in the NFL. Our QB implodes once he is touched. Our HC does not believe in offense.

THAT is a recipe for what we have.

detjetsfan · 10-04-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by First DOWN!

Sparano was a lateral move. I don't see why Rex co-signed that signing. He must have known Sparano was awful.

The issue this season with the Jets offense is the personnel, not the playcalling. Schotty had good to excellent personnel to work with from 2008 to 2011 and underachieved. That said Sparano hasn't exactly distinguished himself this season either.

rammagen · 10-04-2012, 10:51 PM

how quickly people forget the dude sucked balls as the o coordinator it was train wreck... need 8 yards lets send the receivers out 6 yards.....

jetster · 10-04-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by detjetsfan

The issue this season with the Jets offense is the personnel, not the playcalling. Schotty had good to excellent personnel to work with from 2008 to 2011 and underachieved. That said Sparano hasn't exactly distinguished himself this season either.

You cant really judge Sparano at all until we actually play with our full compliment of players.

JB1089 · 10-04-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

We went from the worst OC to the second worst OC. Our skilled positions have to be the weakest in the NFL. Our QB implodes once he is touched. Our HC does not believe in offense.

THAT is a recipe for what we have.

Exactly.

EM31 · 10-04-2012, 11:13 PM

Really really Bad OC plus really really bad talent on O + HC who does not give a sh1t about the offense = recipe for?

SMC · 10-04-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer Lingus

ok the problem was schotty

we are fine now

LOL. Why can't Schitty suck on his own?

Just because the Jets have offensive woes now doesn't mean that Schitty wasn't bad in his own right.

10PennyToColes87 · 10-04-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC

LOL. Why can't Schitty suck on his own?

Just because the Jets have offensive woes now doesn't mean that Schitty wasn't bad in his own right.

You're the only one that gets it. Ridiculous.

dainfamusgc · 10-04-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer Lingus

reinforced there

I swear some ppl dont think b4 they post crap

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jxc · 10-04-2012, 11:48 PM

There's a theory among some Jets fans that QBs' passer ratings improve without Schotty.

So far it's not holding true:
Sanchez's is down in 2012 vs 2011.

Bradford's is up in 2012 vs 2011.

Jet Life · 10-05-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

We went from the worst OC to the second worst OC. Our skilled positions have to be the weakest in the NFL. Our QB implodes once he is touched. Our HC does not believe in offense.

THAT is a recipe for what we have.

Spot on

sunmou · 10-05-2012, 12:58 AM

you might also have a head coach who is taking a more active control in O and not letting the O-coach have complete control?

Charlie Brown · 10-05-2012, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jetster

You cant really judge Sparano at all until we actually play with our full compliment of players.

This.....

And why can't people out here not see this.....

lamont_jordan_rules · 10-06-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JetzIL

That almost sounds like one of the crazy LSAT type question/comments.

... Make sure to select True!

...

SouthTown · 10-06-2012, 11:29 AM

word.

sameoldjets · 10-06-2012, 11:48 AM

schitty was absolutely horrible as an offensive coach. he play calling was disjointed and he didn't seem to be able to get the team moving in the same direction. obviously the jury is still out on sanchez and sparano but what i've seen so far is an offense that is willing to throw deep and not getting mired in back to back to back to back 3 and outs. this in spite of a back who hesitates when hitting the hole, an oline that isn't performing up to par, a qb who is up and down, and not having a really good receiver set.

Equilibrium · 10-06-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer Lingus

this incompetence seems to be continuing without him tho

The incompetence transcends Sanchez and had its prequel with Pennington, Clemens, Favre.

Favre had the pedigree to ignore Schottenheimer. Pennington's frequent injuries prevented him from challenging him.

Bradford's 7-21 performance may be about to get worse with WR Amendola out for awhile. Let's see what happens now.

ColonelForbin · 10-06-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aer Lingus

reinforced there

Lets get real, ****tenhiemer sucked. I blame the Jets Front Office for giving him and everyone else crap to work with on the Offense. While Rex prob influenced most of the Jets defensive picks, the Jets will never get blue chip coaches or players with their existing front office, GM structure and ownership philosophy on do we want to be in the footbal business or the entertainment business. Nothing has really changed from Bradway down to the player evaluators and scouts, including Bradway. Tann and Bradway have to be held accountable for their poor player evaluation and drafting decisions. A real football coach like a Coughlin or a Cowher will never sign on to play for an owner who thinks Tebow was a good *football* decision, or that resigning Holmes made sense because it was a good deal. All of this falls on Woody Johnson.

10-04-2012, 10:06 PM	#22
First DOWN! Practice Squad Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 393	Sparano was a lateral move. I don't see why Rex co-signed that signing. He must have known Sparano was awful.

10-04-2012, 10:13 PM	#23
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,255	We went from the worst OC to the second worst OC. Our skilled positions have to be the weakest in the NFL. Our QB implodes once he is touched. Our HC does not believe in offense. THAT is a recipe for what we have.

10-04-2012, 10:51 PM	#25
rammagen in south florida Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 548	how quickly people forget the dude sucked balls as the o coordinator it was train wreck... need 8 yards lets send the receivers out 6 yards.....

10-04-2012, 11:13 PM	#28
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,148	Really really Bad OC plus really really bad talent on O + HC who does not give a sh1t about the offense = recipe for?

10-04-2012, 11:48 PM	#32
jxc All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,990	There's a theory among some Jets fans that QBs' passer ratings improve without Schotty. So far it's not holding true: Sanchez's is down in 2012 vs 2011. Bradford's is up in 2012 vs 2011.

10-05-2012, 12:58 AM	#34
sunmou Rookie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 549	you might also have a head coach who is taking a more active control in O and not letting the O-coach have complete control?

10-06-2012, 11:29 AM	#37
SouthTown Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,073	word.

10-06-2012, 11:48 AM	#38
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,481	schitty was absolutely horrible as an offensive coach. he play calling was disjointed and he didn't seem to be able to get the team moving in the same direction. obviously the jury is still out on sanchez and sparano but what i've seen so far is an offense that is willing to throw deep and not getting mired in back to back to back to back 3 and outs. this in spite of a back who hesitates when hitting the hole, an oline that isn't performing up to par, a qb who is up and down, and not having a really good receiver set.