A Glimmer of Hope? Maybe - Jets Insider.com Forums

Choon328 · 10-06-2012, 10:59 PM

Thru the 4 games we have played so far 2 of them (our losses) have been against the 3rd and 5th ranked defenses in the NFL to this point. Our next game is against the 1st ranked defense. But the glimmer of hope is that 8 out of the next 11 remaining games after the Texans are against teams ranked 15th or lower in defense and 5 of those teams have either a rookie or second year QB. Of the remaining games we play teams ranked inside of the top 15 only 1 is in the top 10.

I agree the offense, outside of 1 game, has been abysmal. But with an easier schedule the last 11 games I'm not ready to write off this team. Let's hope we somehow beat the Texans b/c that confidence can carry over to the easier part of our schedule. We'll see.

Gastineau99 · 10-06-2012, 11:04 PM

yep, we'll probably squeak out just enough wins to cost us a great player in next years draft.

Apache 51 · 10-06-2012, 11:05 PM

56 PA..... Miami, Jax, Denver, Tenn.

southparkcpa · 10-06-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

yep, we'll probably squeak out just enough wins to cost us a great player in next years draft.

We haven't had a good number one in years.....

Gastineau99 · 10-07-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

We haven't had a good number one in years.....

I'll never forget how costly our win vs. the Chiefs was back in week 17 of 2007 season. We were 3-12 at the time, and after the OT win I immediately said to myself "that win is going to cost us". Turns out, it was the difference between drafting 2nd overall and having to pick between Chris Long, Matt Ryan or Darren McFadden, and dropping down to 6th... we all know how that turned out for us.

One of the worst Jets victories in team history was beating the cheifs in OT in week 17 of the 2007 season. It was devastating to the franchise.

Jets337 · 10-07-2012, 03:17 AM

If you look at the Houston Texans of last year they even won a playoff game with their third string QB. They had major injuries last year losing Mario Williams, their top two QBs (Schaub and Leinart), Andre Johnson missed a few games, etc.

I do not think the Jets can overcome it because 1. I think the attitude of this team sucks and 2. our GM never drafted well so we lack depth.

Jets337 · 10-07-2012, 03:18 AM

If you look at the Houston Texans of last year they even won a playoff game with their third string QB. They had major injuries last year losing Mario Williams, their top two QBs (Schaub and Leinart), Andre Johnson missed a few games, etc.

I do not think the Jets can overcome it because 1. I think the attitude of this team sucks and 2. our GM never drafted well so we lack depth.

george jetfan from miami · 10-07-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

I'll never forget how costly our win vs. the Chiefs was back in week 17 of 2007 season. We were 3-12 at the time, and after the OT win I immediately said to myself "that win is going to cost us". Turns out, it was the difference between drafting 2nd overall and having to pick between Chris Long, Matt Ryan or Darren McFadden, and dropping down to 6th... we all know how that turned out for us.

One of the worst Jets victories in team history was beating the cheifs in OT in week 17 of the 2007 season. It was devastating to the franchise.

Unfortunately that game did have a huge effect on the draft but its alot easier to look back and find mistakes in the draft then to look into the future and know what players will turn out to be good. If anyone including yourself thinks a first place team should start losing in week 5 to get a better draft pick then they should give up watching the team. If they continue to play bad and lose 6 more straight then we can be negative otherwise we don't need the pessimism.

patman · 10-07-2012, 07:20 AM

A little to early to think draft position, at least wait till the bye. Rex is not going to play out this season and finish poorly, your talking him trying to keep his job.

JamesR · 10-07-2012, 08:01 AM

Given our easy (or at least easier) stretch of the schedule coming up ... it'd be just our luck if they start Tebow, and get a run of wins going, just enough to give the (false) impression that he is "the answer" heading into next year.

Kentucky Jet · 10-07-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesR

Given our easy (or at least easier) stretch of the schedule coming up ... it'd be just our luck if they start Tebow, and get a run of wins going, just enough to give the (false) impression that he is "the answer" heading into next year.

I'd rather we play Sanchez. If he totally fails during the "easy" part of our schedule, maybe then the Sanchez fanatics will see the light and demand that we draft a QB next year and start to support the team rather then one player!

But truthfully, I hate losing and any win is nice. I understand draft position etc but a win is a win! I never bet against the Jets.

leftturn3 · 10-07-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Choon328

Thru the 4 games we have played so far 2 of them (our losses) have been against the 3rd and 5th ranked defenses in the NFL to this point. Our next game is against the 1st ranked defense. But the glimmer of hope is that 8 out of the next 11 remaining games after the Texans are against teams ranked 15th or lower in defense and 5 of those teams have either a rookie or second year QB. Of the remaining games we play teams ranked inside of the top 15 only 1 is in the top 10.

I agree the offense, outside of 1 game, has been abysmal. But with an easier schedule the last 11 games I'm not ready to write off this team. Let's hope we somehow beat the Texans b/c that confidence can carry over to the easier part of our schedule. We'll see.

Ooh, this is good to know, now all we need to do is find a way to get rid of the top teams in the league and maybe we can will a superbowl.

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds, I live each year to beat the lower ranked teams in the league.

samoljets · 10-07-2012, 08:54 AM

Jets fans want Tebow as their starter. Or at least the so called ones on this site do. Unfortunately if and when Sanchez fails, this team will not make the playoffs without redrafting a quarterback. Problem is that, no one in this paranoid fan base will actually allow a qb to develop, so we will bring in a retread qb, and scuffle around 500 for a few years and b right back in this predicament

CleatMarks · 10-07-2012, 08:57 AM

The Jets will have some good stretches and probably a few upsets...hell, the Browns beat the Pats last year. It's a coaching challenge but Rex thinks he's the best, here's his chance to prove it. He's not the first coach to lose impact players.

FijiJet · 10-07-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by george jetfan from miami

Unfortunately that game did have a huge effect on the draft but its alot easier to look back and find mistakes in the draft then to look into the future and know what players will turn out to be good. If anyone including yourself thinks a first place team should start losing in week 5 to get a better draft pick then they should give up watching the team. If they continue to play bad and lose 6 more straight then we can be negative otherwise we don't need the pessimism.

Agreed. That type of pessimistic thinking is toxic and gets us nowhere

Tinstar · 10-07-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

I'll never forget how costly our win vs. the Chiefs was back in week 17 of 2007 season. We were 3-12 at the time, and after the OT win I immediately said to myself "that win is going to cost us". Turns out, it was the difference between drafting 2nd overall and having to pick between Chris Long, Matt Ryan or Darren McFadden, and dropping down to 6th... we all know how that turned out for us.

One of the worst Jets victories in team history was beating the cheifs in OT in week 17 of the 2007 season. It was devastating to the franchise.

Funny the Pats picked after us, have lost player after player due to retirement or release and have still managed to win the division yr after year. It's not where u draft as much as who u draft that determines how you perform weekly.

srobjets · 10-07-2012, 08:00 PM

Done!!! Embrace it and look forward to the offseason dreams and bullsh!t. That's what Jets fans have to look forward to.

southparkcpa · 10-07-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

Funny the Pats picked after us, have lost player after player due to retirement or release and have still managed to win the division yr after year. It's not where u draft as much as who u draft that determines how you perform weekly.

THIS. making late picks count is also key.

lamont_jordan_rules · 10-07-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

Funny the Pats picked after us, have lost player after player due to retirement or release and have still managed to win the division yr after year. It's not where u draft as much as who u draft that determines how you perform weekly.

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

THIS. making late picks count is also key.

.... certainly!!!

... picking that franchise qb at 199 showed how smart those brainiacs are!!!

...

l_j_r

southparkcpa · 10-07-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lamont_jordan_rules

.... certainly!!!

... picking that franchise qb at 199 showed how smart those brainiacs are!!!

...

l_j_r

marquis Colston and Amand Bradshaw say hello. Do does Victor Cruz and Arian Foster. Not to mention the OLINE men too numerous to mention.

There are probably 150 players in the league drafted after round 5 in the league that are SOLID stud playmakers. The jets do NOT have their share of them.

Brady is a unique situation.

10-06-2012, 10:59 PM	#1
Choon328 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rochester, NY--Originally from Long Island Posts: 780	A Glimmer of Hope? Maybe Thru the 4 games we have played so far 2 of them (our losses) have been against the 3rd and 5th ranked defenses in the NFL to this point. Our next game is against the 1st ranked defense. But the glimmer of hope is that 8 out of the next 11 remaining games after the Texans are against teams ranked 15th or lower in defense and 5 of those teams have either a rookie or second year QB. Of the remaining games we play teams ranked inside of the top 15 only 1 is in the top 10. I agree the offense, outside of 1 game, has been abysmal. But with an easier schedule the last 11 games I'm not ready to write off this team. Let's hope we somehow beat the Texans b/c that confidence can carry over to the easier part of our schedule. We'll see.

10-06-2012, 11:04 PM	#2
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,349	yep, we'll probably squeak out just enough wins to cost us a great player in next years draft.

10-06-2012, 11:05 PM	#3
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,822	56 PA..... Miami, Jax, Denver, Tenn.

10-07-2012, 03:17 AM	#6
Jets337 NEW JERSEY JETS Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 851	If you look at the Houston Texans of last year they even won a playoff game with their third string QB. They had major injuries last year losing Mario Williams, their top two QBs (Schaub and Leinart), Andre Johnson missed a few games, etc. I do not think the Jets can overcome it because 1. I think the attitude of this team sucks and 2. our GM never drafted well so we lack depth.

10-07-2012, 03:18 AM	#7
Jets337 NEW JERSEY JETS Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 851	If you look at the Houston Texans of last year they even won a playoff game with their third string QB. They had major injuries last year losing Mario Williams, their top two QBs (Schaub and Leinart), Andre Johnson missed a few games, etc. I do not think the Jets can overcome it because 1. I think the attitude of this team sucks and 2. our GM never drafted well so we lack depth.

10-07-2012, 07:20 AM	#9
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,180	A little to early to think draft position, at least wait till the bye. Rex is not going to play out this season and finish poorly, your talking him trying to keep his job.

10-07-2012, 08:01 AM	#10
JamesR All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 4,833	Given our easy (or at least easier) stretch of the schedule coming up ... it'd be just our luck if they start Tebow, and get a run of wins going, just enough to give the (false) impression that he is "the answer" heading into next year.

10-07-2012, 08:54 AM	#13
samoljets I'll help Tebow pack and drive him to the airport, just get rid of him already! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 109	Jets fans want Tebow as their starter. Or at least the so called ones on this site do. Unfortunately if and when Sanchez fails, this team will not make the playoffs without redrafting a quarterback. Problem is that, no one in this paranoid fan base will actually allow a qb to develop, so we will bring in a retread qb, and scuffle around 500 for a few years and b right back in this predicament

10-07-2012, 08:57 AM	#14
CleatMarks All League Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,664	The Jets will have some good stretches and probably a few upsets...hell, the Browns beat the Pats last year. It's a coaching challenge but Rex thinks he's the best, here's his chance to prove it. He's not the first coach to lose impact players.

10-07-2012, 08:00 PM	#17
srobjets Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,466	Done!!! Embrace it and look forward to the offseason dreams and bullsh!t. That's what Jets fans have to look forward to.