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regen · 10-09-2012, 09:52 AM

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

Mainejet · 10-09-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by regen

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

Well, if he is a beast, he's the only one the Jets have on their pathetic, sh*tty DL.

Tinstar · 10-09-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by regen

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

Both these guys are 350 lbs but they play the game differently.Ellis is a penetrating type DT while Harrison is your prototypical NT. If you watched that game last night,Ellis had the OC on his heels all night only there was no Lber safety or DLman to fill the space vacated by ellis once the QB steped up. The jets need to switch permanately to the 43 provided Ellis isn't hurt to badly and move the young LBers into the rotation.

C Mart · 10-09-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

Both these guys are 350 lbs but they play the game differently.Ellis is a penetrating type DT while Harrison is your prototypical NT. If you watched that game last night,Ellis had the OC on his heels all night only there was no Lber safety or DLman to fill the space vacated by ellis once the QB steped up. The jets need to switch permanately to the 43 provided Ellis isn't hurt to badly and move the young LBers into the rotation.

It'd bring Dowtin and Sapp up to the 53 man from the PS...And start playing them and Davis..Dump Mauga and Bellore

Live with the mistakes, let them learn, see if they can play..But those 3 have SPEED!!!!

adpz · 10-09-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

The jets need to switch permanately to the 43 provided Ellis isn't hurt to badly and move the young LBers into the rotation.

Thank you - this is exactly what I tried to start a discussion about last night!

Tinstar · 10-09-2012, 11:05 AM

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It'd bring Dowtin and Sapp up to the 53 man from the PS...And start playing them and Davis..Dump Mauga and Bellore

Live with the mistakes, let them learn, see if they can play..But those 3 have SPEED!!!!

There are some NYJets backup players that u have a very poor opinion of. The problem is, there are quality backup players who play almost as well as the starters. Namely Mauga and Cumberland.

If it were up to me, and provided Ellis is healthy, i would start the defense thus. Running / Passing
RDE - Wilkerson / McIntrye
LDT - Ellis / Wilkerson
NT - Harrison / Ellis
LDE - Coples

Sam - Sapp
Mike - Harris / Davis
Will - Davis / Mauga / Dowtin

CB - Cro
CB - Wilson
FS - Bell / Bush
SS - Landry / Antonio allen as his backup period.

Beerfish · 10-09-2012, 11:06 AM

Harrison is raw but he stood out the few plays he got in. I hope to god that if the season continues to go sideways that they change the guard later in the year and sit all the old slow players and give the younger guys tons of playing time. (I know it won't happen with Rex at the helm but it should happen.)

C Mart · 10-09-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

There are some NYJets backup players that u have a very poor opinion of. The problem is, there are quality backup players who play almost as well as the starters. Namely Mauga and Cumberland.

If it were up to me, and provided Ellis is healthy, i would start the defense thus. Running / Passing
RDE - Wilkerson / McIntrye
LDT - Ellis / Wilkerson
NT - Harrison / Ellis
LDE - Coples

Sam - Sapp
Mike - Harris / Davis
Will - Davis / Mauga / Dowtin

CB - Cro
CB - Wilson
FS - Bell / Bush
SS - Landry / Antonio allen as his backup period.

My problem with Cumberland has been mental mistakes (until last night's drop which caused the final INT) and poor blocking

Scoop24 · 10-09-2012, 11:35 AM

NT Kenrick Ellis has suffered an apparent MCL sprain: source. Not surprising since Ryan ruled out ACL. Could miss at least 2 g's. #Jets

It's now Big Dame's Time

southparkcpa · 10-09-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by regen

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

Agreed. Perhaps HE can be our shining UDFA that all teams need.

He looked great!

From William Penn college in Iowa. a tiny school...less than 2,000 kids.

Seagirt · 10-09-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by regen

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

.. He is limited athletically, does not move well beyond a short area. Also, his conditioning is suspect... but as a space eater, he can certainly contribute as a decent back up type.

rextilleon · 10-09-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by regen

He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

Ah, this is so funny---another can't miss super star out of nowhere---The fans are now becoming Rex. Its scary.

southparkcpa · 10-09-2012, 11:53 AM

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Ah, this is so funny---another can't miss super star out of nowhere---The fans are now becoming Rex. Its scary.

Dude ...he is an UDFA. ALL teams need a few to play well.

Under YOUR observation...Arian Foster and Marquis Colston should have been cast out.

There are probably 200 UDFA's in the league that are either starters or solid conributors and another 400 that are solid role players.

JetsCrazey · 10-09-2012, 11:58 AM

Play Harrison and Ellis together more, with Wilkerson and either Devito/Coples in a 4-3 look.

I also want to see Ricky Sapp up here because our OLBs are old and slow.

C Mart · 10-09-2012, 11:59 AM

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Dude ...he is an UDFA. ALL teams need a few to play well.

Under YOUR observation...Arian Foster and Marquis Colston should have been cast out.

There are probably 200 UDFA's in the league that are either starters or solid conributors and another 400 that are solid role players.

On the Jets 53 man roster:

Bellore
Bell
Berry
Cumberland
DeVito
Grimes
Harrison
Howard
Malone
Mauga
McIntyre
Moore
Purdum
Reuland
Scott
Trufant

GreenWave · 10-09-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

There are some NYJets backup players that u have a very poor opinion of. The problem is, there are quality backup players who play almost as well as the starters. Namely Mauga and Cumberland.

If it were up to me, and provided Ellis is healthy, i would start the defense thus. Running / Passing
RDE - Wilkerson / McIntrye
LDT - Ellis / Wilkerson
NT - Harrison / Ellis
LDE - Coples

Sam - Sapp
Mike - Harris / Davis
Will - Davis / Mauga / Dowtin

CB - Cro
CB - Wilson
FS - Bell / Bush
SS - Landry / Antonio allen as his backup period.

Love it. But that doesn't really work with the LBs. Harris can't go sideline-to-sideline, Davis is still too raw and Sapp...who the hell knows what that guy can do?

But I do agree that those guys should be worked in even more, and if the Jets lose to the Colts (which would essentially mean a 2-5 start), then I'd love to see these changes on a more regular basis.

EM31 · 10-09-2012, 12:07 PM

Given our current (in)effectiveness against the run I would say that any player who appears to flash talent in that regard should be used more and in favor of those who are not effective.

regen · 10-09-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EM31

Given our current (in)effectiveness against the run I would say that any player who appears to flash talent in that regard should be used more and in favor of those who are not effective.

Exactly, and the only thing a NT has to do on first and second downs is clog the middle and not give ground. Harrison did it last night in the fourth quarter when the Texans were looking to run out the clock. Given out NT injury situation, he's the best candidate on the roster for the job. I thought he had pretty quick feet for a man that big. He must be 350lbs.

Tinstar · 10-09-2012, 02:06 PM

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Love it. But that doesn't really work with the LBs. Harris can't go sideline-to-sideline, Davis is still too raw and Sapp...who the hell knows what that guy can do?

But I do agree that those guys should be worked in even more, and if the Jets lose to the Colts (which would essentially mean a 2-5 start), then I'd love to see these changes on a more regular basis.

Gotta tell u the only reason Harris is on the list is because i fell like giving him the courtesy of losing his job.

JetFuel · 10-09-2012, 02:25 PM

Team Harrison ‏@TeamHarrison71

You still have doubters big man @BigDame900 #GrindTime pic.twitter.com/DTjBwpom

10-09-2012, 09:52 AM	#1
regen wants to eliminate NFL nepotism EVEN MORE. Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 2,134	Damon Harrison is a Beast He was in for only a few plays but they couldn't budge him. Just a good, old-fashioned space-eater. Don't know why he isn't playing more since Ellis isn't doing much and Pouha is game-to-game. Our run defense is predicated on good corners and a beast in the middle.

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10-09-2012, 11:06 AM	#7
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,067	Harrison is raw but he stood out the few plays he got in. I hope to god that if the season continues to go sideways that they change the guard later in the year and sit all the old slow players and give the younger guys tons of playing time. (I know it won't happen with Rex at the helm but it should happen.)

10-09-2012, 11:35 AM	#9
Scoop24 Up in the clouds somewhere All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: brooklyn,NY Posts: 4,666	NT Kenrick Ellis has suffered an apparent MCL sprain: source. Not surprising since Ryan ruled out ACL. Could miss at least 2 g's. #Jets It's now Big Dame's Time

10-09-2012, 11:58 AM	#14
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,664	Play Harrison and Ellis together more, with Wilkerson and either Devito/Coples in a 4-3 look. I also want to see Ricky Sapp up here because our OLBs are old and slow.

10-09-2012, 12:07 PM	#17
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,150	Given our current (in)effectiveness against the run I would say that any player who appears to flash talent in that regard should be used more and in favor of those who are not effective.