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JetFuel · 10-15-2012, 10:32 AM

DEFENSIVE LINE

Muhammad Wilkerson -- 55 snaps/77 percent

Quinton Coples -- 55 snaps/77 percent

Mike DeVito -- 30 snaps/42 percent

Daniel Muir -- 12 snaps/17 percent

Damon Harrison -- 7 snaps/10 percent

LINEBACKER

David Harris -- 66 snaps/93 percent

Calvin Pace -- 58 snaps/82 percent

Aaron Maybin -- 36 snaps/51 percent

Bart Scott -- 34 snaps/48 percent

Demario Davis -- 30 snaps/42 percent

Bryan Thomas -- 23 snaps/32 percent

Garrett McIntyre -- 8 snaps/11 percent

Nick Bellore -- 5 snaps/7 percent

SECONDARY

Antonio Cromartie -- 71 snaps/100 percent

LaRon Landry -- 71 snaps/100 percent

Yeremiah Bell -- 71 snaps/100 percent

Kyle Wilson -- 70 snaps/99 percent

Ellis Lankster -- 49 snaps/69 percent

Antonio Allen -- 11 snaps/15 percent

Josh Bush -- 10 snaps/14 percent

Isaiah Trufant -- 9 snaps/13 percent

QUARTERBACK

Mark Sanchez -- 60 snaps/94 percent

Tim Tebow -- 6 snaps/9 percent

RUNNING BACK

Shonn Greene -- 42 snaps/66 percent

Lex Hilliard -- 22 snaps/34 percent

Bilal Powell -- 14 snaps/22 percent

Joe McKnight -- 8 snaps/12 percent

TIGHT END

Dustin Keller -- 48 snaps/75 percent

Jeff Cumberland -- 36 snaps/56 percent

Jason Smith (OT) -- 22 snaps/34 percent

Konrad Reuland -- 4 snaps/6 percent

WIDE RECEIVER

Chaz Schilens -- 50 snaps/78 percent

Jeremy Kerley -- 40 snaps/62 percent

Stephen Hill -- 18 snaps/28 percent

Jason Hill -- 13 snaps/20 percent

Antonio Cromartie -- 1 snap/2 percent

C Mart · 10-15-2012, 10:35 AM

NYJETSCAP: Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year

Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year. Some changes on defense in the blowout.

Not alot to talk about on offense. Dustin Keller saw action on 75% of the snaps in his return, which did cut down on Cumberland's snaps a bit, but the Jets used both players. WR Stephen Hill only saw action on 28% of the snaps and this may be a situation where he has to re-earn his playing time, though the Jets were never looking to pass this past week which may have also played a role. If there is a player who has lost snaps its Konrad Reuland, which is probably due to both Keller and the teams preference for Lex Hilliard at fullback.

Defensively there were alot of changes. I dont know how many happened early and how many were score related but the Jets significantly diminished the roles of Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Mike DeVito and Bryan Thomas. Prior to this game the averages for those players, when active, were 80%, 97%, 61%, and 38% respectively. Their playtime fell to 82%, 48%, 42%, and 32%. There were replaced by Quinton Coples, Aaron Maybin, Demario Davis, who all recorded season highs by a gigantic margin. The Colts passed alot so the Jets were more in pass rush and coverage fronts, which is why the secondary had alot of faces, but this was a pretty big drop even by those standards. New faces to play this week were Isiaih Trufant, Antonio Allen, Dan Muir, and Nick Bellore. Could this be the start of a changing of the guard for the Jets?

Here are the percent of downs played by our offense and defense in week 6, plus the cumulative percent of snaps on the year.:

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Post/j...splaytime.html

southparkcpa · 10-15-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

NYJETSCAP: Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year

Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year. Some changes on defense in the blowout.

Not alot to talk about on offense. Dustin Keller saw action on 75% of the snaps in his return, which did cut down on Cumberland's snaps a bit, but the Jets used both players. WR Stephen Hill only saw action on 28% of the snaps and this may be a situation where he has to re-earn his playing time, though the Jets were never looking to pass this past week which may have also played a role. If there is a player who has lost snaps its Konrad Reuland, which is probably due to both Keller and the teams preference for Lex Hilliard at fullback.

Defensively there were alot of changes. I dont know how many happened early and how many were score related but the Jets significantly diminished the roles of Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Mike DeVito and Bryan Thomas. Prior to this game the averages for those players, when active, were 80%, 97%, 61%, and 38% respectively. Their playtime fell to 82%, 48%, 42%, and 32%. There were replaced by Quinton Coples, Aaron Maybin, Demario Davis, who all recorded season highs by a gigantic margin. The Colts passed alot so the Jets were more in pass rush and coverage fronts, which is why the secondary had alot of faces, but this was a pretty big drop even by those standards. New faces to play this week were Isiaih Trufant, Antonio Allen, Dan Muir, and Nick Bellore. Could this be the start of a changing of the guard for the Jets?

Here are the percent of downs played by our offense and defense in week 6, plus the cumulative percent of snaps on the year.:

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Post/j...splaytime.html

I watch the game in a "club" environment so it is hard to see all plays...in detail etc.

How did Demario Davis play yesterday?

BTW...rex seems to have learned to work with what he has. Betwen Monday and yesterday..he showed he is a COACH. he shut up and went to work.

JB1089 · 10-15-2012, 01:40 PM

We've got to keep playing the young guys. Coples is really good when he's on the field, and he's only going to get better with more playing time. Davis is our best coverage linebacker, I'm glad to see he got almost as many snaps as Scott.

jetstream23 · 10-15-2012, 01:59 PM

The Jets Defense, once again, seems to be on the cusp of being truly excellent....even without Revis. For the first time in a while the Jets looked really good in managing a game with a big lead. Typically, we seem to watch the D let teams climb back in but not yesterday, they clamped down and attacked....they were teeing off on Luck for virtually the entire 4th quarter.

The secondary looked really good...even without Revis. Cro is playing great and the youngsters are stepping up. Wilson is adequate...not great...but adequate right now and who knows, the safeties might start turning into a strength of this team if the rookies can show something. Landry and Bell have been good surprises for us.

Once again, we're STILL one (maybe two) linebackers away from being an elite Defense. Scott, Thomas and Pace have their days numbered here....IMO they are simply hold-the-fort guys right now. They have good experience but they're slow and have lots of miles on their tires. The sooner we get a new OLB and guys like Davis are in the starting line-up the better.

C Mart · 10-15-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

I watch the game in a "club" environment so it is hard to see all plays...in detail etc.

How did Demario Davis play yesterday?

BTW...rex seems to have learned to work with what he has. Betwen Monday and yesterday..he showed he is a COACH. he shut up and went to work.

I'd like to see how the next few weeks play out first

Indy's D was already avg'ing allowing 135 yards on the ground and their DL yesterday was decimated.

Luck is still a rookie and overthrew a few WRs that were wide open that could have produced points and they didn't have a run game.

I also think after Indys emotional W last week following the health announcement of Pagano they were due for an emotional letdown, especially on the road

All that said. A win is a win and I will never turn it down

Vegi5894 · 10-15-2012, 03:15 PM

Yeah it was really great seeing Coples get the start and Davis get so much playing time. For as much as people here seem to bash Wilkerson from time to time, I thought he had a great game. He was making plays on the other side of the field near the line of scrimage, he's a nice run support guy who can pressure the pocket alright.

Having that with the likes of Coples, who's starting to show that with more playing time he can really be a force on the DL, this D might be looking to make a comeback in the second 2/3 of the season.

I also think the rotation of linebackers really helps keep the boys (or should I say the old men) fresh out there. it alleviates pressure on Thomas Pace and Scott who we all seem to agree are getting pretty damn slow.

It's exciting that I'm finally seeing what I thought I'd be seeing from these draft picks, some spurts of really great play.

Beerfish · 10-15-2012, 03:28 PM

Pace needs to start getting fewer snaps in favour of other players.

NYJCAP2 · 10-15-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

Pace needs to start getting fewer snaps in favour of other players.

As long as he is never ever dropped in coverage im ok with him in there on passing and rushing downs.

Vegi5894 · 10-15-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

As long as he is never ever dropped in coverage im ok with him in there on passing and rushing downs.

Yeah pretty much my opinion also

C Mart · 10-15-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

As long as he is never ever dropped in coverage im ok with him in there on passing and rushing downs.

Yet Rex says that is one of his strong suits.

w0mbat · 10-15-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

The Jets Defense, once again, seems to be on the cusp of being truly excellent....even without Revis. For the first time in a while the Jets looked really good in managing a game with a big lead. Typically, we seem to watch the D let teams climb back in but not yesterday, they clamped down and attacked....they were teeing off on Luck for virtually the entire 4th quarter.

The secondary looked really good...even without Revis. Cro is playing great and the youngsters are stepping up. Wilson is adequate...not great...but adequate right now and who knows, the safeties might start turning into a strength of this team if the rookies can show something. Landry and Bell have been good surprises for us.

Once again, we're STILL one (maybe two) linebackers away from being an elite Defense. Scott, Thomas and Pace have their days numbered here....IMO they are simply hold-the-fort guys right now. They have good experience but they're slow and have lots of miles on their tires. The sooner we get a new OLB and guys like Davis are in the starting line-up the better.

Jets need 4 linebackers before they can be considered elite. Harris has been atrocious this year. I have no idea what the hell caused him to regress so much because he's not even old when compared to our other linebackers.

Harris is living on his reputation with Jet fans and is as much to blame for the Jets struggles against the run as anybody.

Tackleem · 10-15-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JB1089

We've got to keep playing the young guys. Coples is really good when he's on the field, and he's only going to get better with more playing time. Davis is our best coverage linebacker, I'm glad to see he got almost as many snaps as Scott.

I'd like for this to be true, but I haven't seen any evidence of it so far.

NYJCAP2 · 10-15-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

Yet Rex says that is one of his strong suits.

Rex is overzealous when talking about pretty much anything football and snacks related.

I believe this games playing time breakdown was very organized and purposeful, D-line especially.

Pouha has been atrocious and him being out due to injury could be a great sign for Coples. Coples and Wilkerson were so active and they can provide that constant motion and create a lot of problems. I didn't mind Wilkerson's penalty so much, to the extent that it seems like he was let loose this game.

S. Hill could use a little more time and working him in is good, but this kid can be real good.

10-15-2012, 10:32 AM	#1
JetFuel All League Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,871	Playing time against the Colts DEFENSIVE LINE Muhammad Wilkerson -- 55 snaps/77 percent Quinton Coples -- 55 snaps/77 percent Mike DeVito -- 30 snaps/42 percent Daniel Muir -- 12 snaps/17 percent Damon Harrison -- 7 snaps/10 percent LINEBACKER David Harris -- 66 snaps/93 percent Calvin Pace -- 58 snaps/82 percent Aaron Maybin -- 36 snaps/51 percent Bart Scott -- 34 snaps/48 percent Demario Davis -- 30 snaps/42 percent Bryan Thomas -- 23 snaps/32 percent Garrett McIntyre -- 8 snaps/11 percent Nick Bellore -- 5 snaps/7 percent SECONDARY Antonio Cromartie -- 71 snaps/100 percent LaRon Landry -- 71 snaps/100 percent Yeremiah Bell -- 71 snaps/100 percent Kyle Wilson -- 70 snaps/99 percent Ellis Lankster -- 49 snaps/69 percent Antonio Allen -- 11 snaps/15 percent Josh Bush -- 10 snaps/14 percent Isaiah Trufant -- 9 snaps/13 percent QUARTERBACK Mark Sanchez -- 60 snaps/94 percent Tim Tebow -- 6 snaps/9 percent RUNNING BACK Shonn Greene -- 42 snaps/66 percent Lex Hilliard -- 22 snaps/34 percent Bilal Powell -- 14 snaps/22 percent Joe McKnight -- 8 snaps/12 percent TIGHT END Dustin Keller -- 48 snaps/75 percent Jeff Cumberland -- 36 snaps/56 percent Jason Smith (OT) -- 22 snaps/34 percent Konrad Reuland -- 4 snaps/6 percent WIDE RECEIVER Chaz Schilens -- 50 snaps/78 percent Jeremy Kerley -- 40 snaps/62 percent Stephen Hill -- 18 snaps/28 percent Jason Hill -- 13 snaps/20 percent Antonio Cromartie -- 1 snap/2 percent

10-15-2012, 01:59 PM	#5
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,588	The Jets Defense, once again, seems to be on the cusp of being truly excellent....even without Revis. For the first time in a while the Jets looked really good in managing a game with a big lead. Typically, we seem to watch the D let teams climb back in but not yesterday, they clamped down and attacked....they were teeing off on Luck for virtually the entire 4th quarter. The secondary looked really good...even without Revis. Cro is playing great and the youngsters are stepping up. Wilson is adequate...not great...but adequate right now and who knows, the safeties might start turning into a strength of this team if the rookies can show something. Landry and Bell have been good surprises for us. Once again, we're STILL one (maybe two) linebackers away from being an elite Defense. Scott, Thomas and Pace have their days numbered here....IMO they are simply hold-the-fort guys right now. They have good experience but they're slow and have lots of miles on their tires. The sooner we get a new OLB and guys like Davis are in the starting line-up the better. Last edited by jetstream23; 10-15-2012 at 02:02 PM.

10-15-2012, 10:35 AM	#2
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	NYJETSCAP: Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year Jets player snap counts against the Colts and totals for the year. Some changes on defense in the blowout. Not alot to talk about on offense. Dustin Keller saw action on 75% of the snaps in his return, which did cut down on Cumberland's snaps a bit, but the Jets used both players. WR Stephen Hill only saw action on 28% of the snaps and this may be a situation where he has to re-earn his playing time, though the Jets were never looking to pass this past week which may have also played a role. If there is a player who has lost snaps its Konrad Reuland, which is probably due to both Keller and the teams preference for Lex Hilliard at fullback. Defensively there were alot of changes. I dont know how many happened early and how many were score related but the Jets significantly diminished the roles of Bart Scott, Calvin Pace, Mike DeVito and Bryan Thomas. Prior to this game the averages for those players, when active, were 80%, 97%, 61%, and 38% respectively. Their playtime fell to 82%, 48%, 42%, and 32%. There were replaced by Quinton Coples, Aaron Maybin, Demario Davis, who all recorded season highs by a gigantic margin. The Colts passed alot so the Jets were more in pass rush and coverage fronts, which is why the secondary had alot of faces, but this was a pretty big drop even by those standards. New faces to play this week were Isiaih Trufant, Antonio Allen, Dan Muir, and Nick Bellore. Could this be the start of a changing of the guard for the Jets? Here are the percent of downs played by our offense and defense in week 6, plus the cumulative percent of snaps on the year.: http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Post/j...splaytime.html

10-15-2012, 01:40 PM	#4
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,710	We've got to keep playing the young guys. Coples is really good when he's on the field, and he's only going to get better with more playing time. Davis is our best coverage linebacker, I'm glad to see he got almost as many snaps as Scott.

10-15-2012, 03:15 PM	#7
Vegi5894 Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 492	Yeah it was really great seeing Coples get the start and Davis get so much playing time. For as much as people here seem to bash Wilkerson from time to time, I thought he had a great game. He was making plays on the other side of the field near the line of scrimage, he's a nice run support guy who can pressure the pocket alright. Having that with the likes of Coples, who's starting to show that with more playing time he can really be a force on the DL, this D might be looking to make a comeback in the second 2/3 of the season. I also think the rotation of linebackers really helps keep the boys (or should I say the old men) fresh out there. it alleviates pressure on Thomas Pace and Scott who we all seem to agree are getting pretty damn slow. It's exciting that I'm finally seeing what I thought I'd be seeing from these draft picks, some spurts of really great play.

10-15-2012, 03:28 PM	#8
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,067	Pace needs to start getting fewer snaps in favour of other players.