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Old 10-19-2012, 01:19 PM   #1
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So, now what? -- Yankees 2013 roster

Who stays who goes?

Swisher is done here. I don't see any way they bring him back.

I think they have to find a way to get Nunez more ABs. He's not a very strong defensive IF... should they move him to LF or RF or just keep working with him and see if he can improve at SS or 3B?

Can Ichiro and Gardner both be regular players? I think so.

Any other thoughts?
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:50 PM   #2
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This team is not going to change that much this year.

Swisher and Jones are the only locks to be gone. Everyone else depends on price. Soriano is likely to opt out and there will be a market for him.

I think the Yanks will re-sign our at least want to re-sign Andy, Kuroda, Ichiro, Ibanez and Martin. Depends on if they want to retire or if they get better deals somewhere else.

I do not think A-Rod is getting traded. And I think Grandy's option is getting picked up. They will trade for a big OF within the next 12 months. Grandy will get traded at the deadline or 2013 will be his last year.

Crazy to think how close they were to drafting Mike Trout

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Old 10-19-2012, 01:57 PM   #3
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This team is not going to change that much this year.

Swisher and Jones are the only locks to be gone. Everyone else depends on price. Soriano is likely to opt out and there will be a market for him.

I think the Yanks will re-sign our at least want to re-sign Andy, Kuroda, Ichiro, Ibanez and Martin. Depends on if they want to retire or if they get better deals somewhere else.

I do not think A-Rod is getting traded. And I think Grandy's option is getting picked up. They will trade for a big OF within the next 12 months. Grandy will get traded at the deadline or 2013 will be his last year.

Crazy to think how close they were to drafting Mike Trout
Please don't even go there.

Last night's wounds are still open.
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:30 PM   #4
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ichiro, gardner, FA pickup in OF or maybe Nunez

same infield and catcher

same rotation

Soriano gone, Mo back
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #5
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ichiro, gardner, FA pickup in OF or maybe Nunez

same infield and catcher

same rotation

Soriano gone, Mo back
Think they would consider moving Nunez to OF? I love his bat and think he can be one of the better hitters on the team if he keeps improving.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #6
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I don't know if I like Ichiro as an everyday player. i'd hate for the Yankees to be seduced by 2 months of production and then sign a 40 year old OF.

Nunez has pretty poor lefty/righty splits. I'd like to see that improve before he gets an everyday spot as well.

Free Agents I like are Bourn and Napoli. I think Martin probably comes back. I think Soriano goes, but he is replaceable.

I'd love a trade for an OF. I'd like to stay away from Hamilton and BJ Upton.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:25 PM   #7
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I don't know if I like Ichiro as an everyday player. i'd hate for the Yankees to be seduced by 2 months of production and then sign a 40 year old OF.

Nunez has pretty poor lefty/righty splits. I'd like to see that improve before he gets an everyday spot as well.

Free Agents I like are Bourn and Napoli. I think Martin probably comes back. I think Soriano goes, but he is replaceable.

I'd love a trade for an OF. I'd like to stay away from Hamilton and BJ Upton.
I'm not so sure those two months are a fluke though. Ichiro was rejuvinated as a member of a contender. He's still in good shape physically and mentally, I see no reason to think he can't repeat his 2012 numbers -- .280 hitter, 25-30 steals. He can have 10-15 HR in YS, too.

He's not 2009 Ichiro, but he's a quality all-around player who could help this team IMO.

I also want no part of Hamilton or Upton. Bourn is not really a guy I'm high on. Is he that much better than Gardner?

What other OF might be available in a trade? Anyone coming up to the end of their contract that a team might want to dump?
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:38 PM   #8
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Justin Upton on Arizona would be an incredible fit for RF. He's been in trade rumors on and off for a while now. Depending on what they can do, I would have no problem rejecting Granderson's option and playing Gardner in CF. Having an A+ defensive CF, and a guy who can steal 50 bases would be an incredible plus for this team.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:44 PM   #9
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I'm not so sure those two months are a fluke though. Ichiro was rejuvinated as a member of a contender. He's still in good shape physically and mentally, I see no reason to think he can't repeat his 2012 numbers -- .280 hitter, 25-30 steals. He can have 10-15 HR in YS, too.

He's not 2009 Ichiro, but he's a quality all-around player who could help this team IMO.

I also want no part of Hamilton or Upton. Bourn is not really a guy I'm high on. Is he that much better than Gardner?

What other OF might be available in a trade? Anyone coming up to the end of their contract that a team might want to dump?
that is also part of what bother me with Ichiro. There have been rumors of how he is a bit selfish as a player, do I really want a guy, at 40, who may or may not be motivated always, on the team? I don't know. What happens when he isn't an everyday player? Does he still have motivation even though he may not play everyday?


I like Bourn and Gardner. I like how Bourn plays the game, and I think he can hit good pitching and make productive outs, which Swisher couldn't.

I'm not sold on gardner as an everyday player, but I wouldn't be upset with a Ichiro/Gardner/Bourn OF....or a J Upton/Gardner/Bourn OF. I think the Yanks want more power than that, but I would like the speed and the corners would give you about 20 each.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:13 PM   #10
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that is also part of what bother me with Ichiro. There have been rumors of how he is a bit selfish as a player, do I really want a guy, at 40, who may or may not be motivated always, on the team? I don't know. What happens when he isn't an everyday player? Does he still have motivation even though he may not play everyday?


I like Bourn and Gardner. I like how Bourn plays the game, and I think he can hit good pitching and make productive outs, which Swisher couldn't.

I'm not sold on gardner as an everyday player, but I wouldn't be upset with a Ichiro/Gardner/Bourn OF....or a J Upton/Gardner/Bourn OF. I think the Yanks want more power than that, but I would like the speed and the corners would give you about 20 each.
I don't think he was selfish I just think he was tired of playing for a terrible team with no chance at the playoffs. It has to be difficult to motivate yourself to play hard for a shtty team a age 39. He has not been selfish herr and seems to really enjoy NYC and his teammates.

There is plenty of gas in that tank.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:16 PM   #11
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I don't know if I like Ichiro as an everyday player. i'd hate for the Yankees to be seduced by 2 months of production and then sign a 40 year old OF.

Nunez has pretty poor lefty/righty splits. I'd like to see that improve before he gets an everyday spot as well.

Free Agents I like are Bourn and Napoli. I think Martin probably comes back. I think Soriano goes, but he is replaceable.

I'd love a trade for an OF. I'd like to stay away from Hamilton and BJ Upton.
Nunez-Ichiro split in the outfield. Gardner-Ichiro-Granderson = great defensive OF with speed. I like Nunez alot, and I think he could be a decent to good corner OF, with some speed and some pop.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:22 PM   #12
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Nunez-Ichiro split in the outfield. Gardner-Ichiro-Granderson = great defensive OF with speed. I like Nunez alot, and I think he could be a decent to good corner OF, with some speed and some pop.
If Nunez can play in the OF. Not all guys can do that. Soriano comes to mind. Victor Cruz.
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how about a trade of Nunez for Shin Shoo Choo...that guy is a free agent after next season.

I think Choo would do well at Yankee Stadium and does a little bit of everything well.
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how about a trade of Nunez for Shin Shoo Choo...that guy is a free agent after next season.

I think Choo would do well at Yankee Stadium and does a little bit of everything well.
Lets trade a guy who spent the entire season in AAA for one of the best RFer in baseball.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:52 PM   #15
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how about a trade of Nunez for Shin Shoo Choo...that guy is a free agent after next season.

I think Choo would do well at Yankee Stadium and does a little bit of everything well.
Choo wouldn't be a bad pickup at all, and you're right about him fitting into YS. Doubt they take Nunez for Choo...

Also, not sure if I'm willing to dump Nunez yet. I really think he has a shot at being great if he can improve against RHP.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:55 PM   #16
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I think Grandy is a lock to come back. In Yankee dollars he is cheap and they can always trade him at the deadline. I think he will have a good year in his contract year.

I can see Martin getting a 2yr deal as a stop gap until Sanchez is ready.

I am not worried about the bats. The Yanks can always find a bat. The most important thing is that the young pitchers continue to develop. Nova had the sophomore slump. Pineda is coming off an injury and the Killer Bs hit a plateau. It is also time for Hughes to step up, he is a veteran now. As long as the pitching is good the Yanks will always be in the playoffs b.c they can buy bats and bullpen.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #17
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Lets trade a guy who spent the entire season in AAA for one of the best RFer in baseball.

You mean like Ricky Ledee for David Justice?


I'm basing it solely on cash. If Shoo is a FA after next season we could probably put a package together.

I wouldn't call him one of the best, but very good. You can't give up too much for a one year rental. But at least hope for a mid year swap.
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Cashman already said today they are picking up Granderson's $13 million option.
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Old 10-19-2012, 07:05 PM   #19
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Cashman already said today they are picking up Granderson's $13 million option.
I think they have to. You can't replace 40 homers cheaper than that
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Old 10-20-2012, 08:21 AM   #20
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King Felix and Verlander for the pitching staff

Pujols, Trout and Miguel Cabrera for the batting lineup

no problem in the salary cap free land of Selig Ball
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