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Apache 51 · 10-20-2012, 12:46 PM

Hope they unveil something cause nothing much has worked for the past decade against the Patriots in the league, maybe better call the Giants.

Mohegangreen · 10-20-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache 51

Hope they unveil something cause nothing much has worked for the past decade against the Patriots in the league, maybe better call the Giants.

Don't forget Sparano has had alot of success against the Patriots with the Fish...

Whichfan · 10-20-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache 51

Hope they unveil something cause nothing much has worked for the past decade against the Patriots in the league, maybe better call the Giants.

...and do what? Ask them if they are willing to trade their front 7, special teams, Eli, Nicks and Cruz?

The Giants didn't do anything special to beat the Patriots. They played solid football(won the turnover battle and field position battle against the Patriots both times last year) with better talent, that out-executed the Patriots.

In fact, they kept it pretty simple:

Win the field position battle.
Win the turnover battle.
Dominate the line of scrimmage.
Scored points and played elite QB.

Sorry, but there is no "easy trick" to beat the Patriots. You need TOP talent who out-execute to win.

Talent, by itself, isn't enough. Execution, by itself, isn't enough. To win, you need both because the Pats have both. Giants are one of the few teams that have that.

Unless the Pats have a bad game that's usually what it's going to take every time. And even then, it's going to go either way.

So if you want to beat us Sunday that's what you have to do:
win the turnover battle
win the field position battle
dominate defensively
score points
and have Mark Sanchez play near flawless QB.

That's it. Good luck.

McGinley · 10-20-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Whichfan

...and do what? Ask them if they are willing to trade their front 7, special teams, Eli, Nicks and Cruz?

The Giants didn't do anything special to beat the Patriots. They played solid football(won the turnover battle and field position battle against the Patriots both times last year) with better talent, that out-executed the Patriots.

In fact, they kept it pretty simple:

Win the field position battle.
Win the turnover battle.
Dominate the line of scrimmage.
Scored points and played elite QB.

Sorry, but there is no "easy trick" to beat the Patriots. You need TOP talent who out-execute to win.

Talent, by itself, isn't enough. Execution, by itself, isn't enough. To win, you need both because the Pats have both. Giants are one of the few teams that have that.

Unless the Pats have a bad game that's usually what it's going to take every time. And even then, it's going to go either way.

So if you want to beat us Sunday that's what you have to do:
win the turnover battle
win the field position battle
dominate defensively
score points
and have Mark Sanchez play near flawless QB.

That's it. Good luck.

As much as it pains me to say, and as much as I dislike Whichfan, he's right. If everyone here was honest with themselves, they would recognize that New England is still the class of the East.

I'd like a win tomorrow, but I have a feeling that even a moral win is out of our grasp.

Apache 51 · 10-20-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Whichfan

...and do what? Ask them if they are willing to trade their front 7, special teams, Eli, Nicks and Cruz?

The Giants didn't do anything special to beat the Patriots. They played solid football(won the turnover battle and field position battle against the Patriots both times last year) with better talent, that out-executed the Patriots.

In fact, they kept it pretty simple:

Win the field position battle.
Win the turnover battle.
Dominate the line of scrimmage.
Scored points and played elite QB.

Sorry, but there is no "easy trick" to beat the Patriots. You need TOP talent who out-execute to win.

Talent, by itself, isn't enough. Execution, by itself, isn't enough. To win, you need both because the Pats have both. Giants are one of the few teams that have that.

Unless the Pats have a bad game that's usually what it's going to take every time. And even then, it's going to go either way.

So if you want to beat us Sunday that's what you have to do:
win the turnover battle
win the field position battle
dominate defensively
score points
and have Mark Sanchez play near flawless QB.

That's it. Good luck.

I think I basically said what you said in one sentence.

As long as we are on it the key for the Jets is simple, as much as simple can be applied here, shut down the machine, now since our O is lacking to say the least the D will have to hold them to 14 points or less to even have a chance. In short shut Brady down, and score points that is the goal every week.

endgameeugenics · 10-20-2012, 02:06 PM

Defense will be played different. IDK maybe just more faked injuries. But, Ellis and Pouha out, means more Coples. And the Pats have a lethal no huddle offense. That being said, hopefully more Davis, Maybin, and Dowtin.
What if we could just stop the run with Maybin in there?

shevys · 10-20-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Haha, that's hilarious. It's like people think this wildcat thing is still super duper top secret.

Preseason: "Guise, we're just trying to not give anyone tape on our wildcat package!"

Week 3: "Guise, it's early in the season; they're just easing the wildcat in slowly!"

Week 7: "Guise, we've just been keeping it under wraps so New England won't know what hit them!"

lol, it's just comical. Watch, by week 12, you'll be hearing this.

Week 12: "Guise, we're just saving our best stuff for the playoffs so we can become super awesome and win da bowl just like the Giants did!"

Sorry, I just have to laugh at you using the word "guise" 4 times instead of "guys." Lol

McGinley · 10-20-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shevys

Sorry, I just have to laugh at you using the word "guise" 4 times instead of "guys." Lol

I do what I can. I'm the hero this forum deserves.

Jet Nut · 10-20-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

No doubt Brady hates getting hit, what QB doesn't? The fact remains that the Jets haven't been especially strong in rushing the passer so I don't get why everyone here thinks its going to suddenly happen against the Pats.

Maybe because your OL sucks and Brady has been getting hit a lot?

Even the past few seasons the Jets line didn't get a lot of sack and at time beat the sh1t out of your girl.

Other than that?

Jet Nut · 10-20-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shevys

Sorry, I just have to laugh at you using the word "guise" 4 times instead of "guys." Lol

Using a 5 letter word instead of a 4 letter word doesn't make sense to you?

shevys · 10-20-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

Using a 5 letter word instead of a 4 letter word doesn't make sense to you?

Oh, there's more points for that? I didn't realize.

McGinley · 10-20-2012, 03:45 PM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guise

SMH @ you fictional guise.

Where's the reality-based 10Penny when you need him?

Jet-Zeppelin · 10-20-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

No doubt Brady hates getting hit, what QB doesn't? The fact remains that the Jets haven't been especially strong in rushing the passer so I don't get why everyone here thinks its going to suddenly happen against the Pats.

That's really it. How can the Jets get a pass rush? They need some really good and somewhat unexpected individual performances, because they cannot afford to send numbers after Brady.

RoadFan · 10-20-2012, 08:43 PM

Jake Steinberg tweets
https://twitter.com/Steiny31

"Wait until you see what Rex has cooked up for the Pats... he's taking a risk, if it works he'll be called a genius, if not, he'll get killed"

"You are about to be shocked.."

"has to do with the defensive side of the ball. will spill tomorrow morning, don't want to ruin the gamplan lol"

"boldest call/biggest risk of the rex ryan era."

"promise i'm not messing"

My thoughts...Tebow might play some defense tomorrow. Whatever it is, either it is going to work and energize this fan base....or if we go down, at least we go out in flames. Win, win.

CleatMarks · 10-20-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

Don't forget Sparano has had alot of success against the Patriots with the Fish...

Yeah, he was 2 - 6 .... lots...

McGinley · 10-20-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CleatMarks

Yeah, he was 2 - 6 .... lots...

That's the joke doe.

lamont_jordan_rules · 10-20-2012, 08:53 PM

... h*lls yeah they do!!! ...

... it's called landrify brady

l_j_r

GuidoYaztremski · 10-20-2012, 09:08 PM

Rex, Sparano, and Westhoff are all > Bullwinkle

Spectre · 10-20-2012, 09:17 PM

Rex's secret defensive plan called the "Blitzkreig" will be countered with the "Gronkreig".

Mohegangreen · 10-20-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CleatMarks

Yeah, he was 2 - 6 .... lots...

I think he was 2-2 in games at New England

10-20-2012, 08:43 PM	#34
RoadFan is tired of the Jets missing on their 2nd round picks. Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 1,855	Jake Steinberg tweets https://twitter.com/Steiny31 "Wait until you see what Rex has cooked up for the Pats... he's taking a risk, if it works he'll be called a genius, if not, he'll get killed" "You are about to be shocked.." "has to do with the defensive side of the ball. will spill tomorrow morning, don't want to ruin the gamplan lol" "boldest call/biggest risk of the rex ryan era." "promise i'm not messing" My thoughts...Tebow might play some defense tomorrow. Whatever it is, either it is going to work and energize this fan base....or if we go down, at least we go out in flames. Win, win. Last edited by RoadFan; 10-20-2012 at 08:46 PM.

10-20-2012, 12:46 PM	#21
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,624	Hope they unveil something cause nothing much has worked for the past decade against the Patriots in the league, maybe better call the Giants.

10-20-2012, 02:06 PM	#26
endgameeugenics Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 305	Defense will be played different. IDK maybe just more faked injuries. But, Ellis and Pouha out, means more Coples. And the Pats have a lethal no huddle offense. That being said, hopefully more Davis, Maybin, and Dowtin. What if we could just stop the run with Maybin in there?

10-20-2012, 03:45 PM	#32
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,446	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guise SMH @ you fictional guise. Where's the reality-based 10Penny when you need him?

10-20-2012, 08:53 PM	#37
lamont_jordan_rules Can't Wait To See Marty Mornhinweg's Offense! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Atlanta via NJ Posts: 6,238	... h*lls yeah they do!!! ... ... it's called landrify brady l_j_r

10-20-2012, 09:08 PM	#38
GuidoYaztremski Tuukka Rask!!! All League Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 2,613	Rex, Sparano, and Westhoff are all > Bullwinkle

10-20-2012, 09:17 PM	#39
Spectre N40 48.79182 W74 4.48859 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 572	Rex's secret defensive plan called the "Blitzkreig" will be countered with the "Gronkreig".