is Chandler Jones the one who got away ? ? ?

[Rob0729]

Originally Posted by Paradis

Are you kidding me. 30 other NFL teams can talk trash about Tanny and his drafting. New England is NOT one of those 30 teams.

It's a incredible the Pats missed on so many picks considering they were averaging over 10 a year. It's statistically improbable to be a dumb as Bellidick was with his selections.

The Pats have been worlds better than the Jets in recent years. Every team have the same amount of picks to begin with other than compensatory picks. The Pats have drafted far more starters, Pro Bowlers, All Pros, and contributors than the Jets.

The Pats aren't the best team in terms of drafting (not even close), but they have been far better than the Jets. Gronk, Hernandez, Ridley, Solder, Mayo, Jones, and Spikes would all start on the Jets. I don't know if one Jets draft pick since 2007 other than Wilkerson would start for the Pats.

[CleatMarks]

Originally Posted by sg3

Coples was projected as a top 10 pick by most analysts. Jones was projected at end of first beginning of second primarily because he was considered a one dimensional pass rusher not so good against the run

If the Jets had taken Jones at 16 it would have been derided by the media and our JI "realists" as a huge bad reach by Tannenbaum

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Yup, he's only second among all defensive (not just rookies) ends in total tackles and ranks 4th for negative plays among all DEs.

[sg3]

he's the bestest of all the bestest of all time

move over Deacon Jones

Robot says some rookie with 6 games has moved your ass outta here

[CleatMarks]

Originally Posted by sg3

he's the bestest of all the bestest of all time

move over Deacon Jones

Robot says some rookie with 6 games has moved your ass outta here

You talking about Coples or Jones.? I haven't made any determinations... lots of opinions about Coples after 6 games from the board though.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by Paradis

Are you kidding me. 30 other NFL teams can talk trash about Tanny and his drafting. New England is NOT one of those 30 teams.

It's a incredible the Pats missed on so many picks considering they were averaging over 10 a year. It's statistically improbable to be a dumb as Bellidick was with his selections.

It's not 2008. The narrative about the Patriots being the NFL's worst drafters simply holds no water anymore. In recent years, they have been better drafters than many NFL teams, including the Jets.

[Rob0729]

Originally Posted by CleatMarks

You talking about Coples or Jones.? I haven't made any determinations... lots of opinions about Coples after 6 games from the board though.

He is talking about me. The brilliant thing about him is that he blocks my posts and can't even see what I post. Apparently if you don't use your brain for thinking, you get ESP.

[#1Patriot]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

It's not 2008. The narrative about the Patriots being the NFL's worst drafters simply holds no water anymore. In recent years, they have been better drafters than many NFL teams, including the Jets.

Talk about draft picks all you want,everyone misses on some. But 10+ wins per season while rebuilding the entire team speaks for itself.

But I certain agree it's way too early to compare last years picks. I remember when Mirer looked like the better pick over Drew in the first year.

[jeT.MAC]

He didnt get away bc he went early in the draft. he didnt hav a chance to get away..

[sg3]

the funniest thing about robot is that he missed the fact that I removed all but six chowd trolls, SOJFS and Teboneheads from my ignore list


sorry Robot, you didn't make the final six

try and keep up

[PatriotReign]

Originally Posted by sg3

the funniest thing about robot is that he missed the fact that I removed all but six chowd trolls, SOJFS and Teboneheads from my ignore list


sorry Robot, you didn't make the final six

try and keep up

Terminal delusion that people care.

[sg3]

apparently your chowd buddy the robot does because he's brought it up about 4 times this week

[PatriotReign]

Originally Posted by Paradis

Coples' ceiling is way higher than Jones. Waayy higher.

Jones was a natural easy fit for his position and it's not surprising to see early production from him, but as the years go bye, Coples will be the better NFL product.

Your high ceiling observation applies to both and while it's still early Jones is ascending quicker than Coples. I'm sure there was similar high cieling speculation about Gholston before reality proved that a dozen later round picks in that draft shot way past him. Coples can't rest on people's wishful predictions, how about we judge his on field performance.

[NY's stepchild]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

It's not 2008. The narrative about the Patriots being the NFL's worst drafters simply holds no water anymore. In recent years, they have been better drafters than many NFL teams, including the Jets.

Yeah the proof is in the 500 record. You have the best QB in the NFL and the best coach in history, and you win half your games. Can't argue with the results.

[GuidoYaztremski]

Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Yeah the proof is in the 500 record. You have the best QB in the NFL and the best coach in history, and you win half your games. Can't argue with the results.

There you go again thinking the season is over after 6 games. Of course, that's understandable as you think championships are won in April.

[PatriotReign]

Originally Posted by NY's stepchild

Yeah the proof is in the 500 record. You have the best QB in the NFL and the best coach in history, and you win half your games. Can't argue with the results.

Wait a minute, how can we have a 500 record when Jets fans are quoting a book authored by a steelers fan speculating that Pats are still cheating? The must mean the cheatermeter is in the repair shop.

[stanner]

Originally Posted by PatriotReign

Wait a minute, how can we have a 500 record when Jets fans are quoting a book authored by a steelers fan speculating that Pats are still cheating? The must mean the cheatermeter is in the repair shop.

Because they're even getting old at cheating.

[FijiJet]

Originally Posted by sg3

Responding to the likes of Jet Zeppelin is a waste of effort

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That's right. And the dumb lama troll got banned. Good riddance to rubbish.

Coples was a better, more sensible pick for the Jets. Plus they play 2 totally different positions so I don't see why 6 games in, SOJF's and troll bring up his sack total as the last word in everything.

[kelly]

Originally Posted by JetsMakeMeCry

he is pretty bad, but 2 things:
1. they play 2 different positions
2. can we please wait at least 2 years before we jump off the bridge?

3 yrs










cheers ~ ~

[Pats1960]

Originally Posted by Paradis

Are you kidding me. 30 other NFL teams can talk trash about Tanny and his drafting. New England is NOT one of those 30 teams.

It's a incredible the Pats missed on so many picks considering they were averaging over 10 a year. It's statistically improbable to be a dumb as Bellidick was with his selections.

How could Belichamp be so dumb at drafting and have the best record in the AFCE for eleven straight years, and in the early lead for an even dozen?

If he's so dumb at drafting why was he the only one who showed any interest in Tommy LomBrady?

[TheBlairThomasFumble]

Originally Posted by Pats1960

How could Belichamp be so dumb at drafting and have the best record in the AFCE for eleven straight years, and in the early lead for an even dozen?

If he's so dumb at drafting why was he the only one who showed any interest in Tommy LomBrady?

Gotta give it to Belly. He knew Brady was going to be such a superstar that he didn't pick him until the 6th round, utterly unconcerned that some other team was going to pick him.

That's how you pick guys you've got pegged as future HOFers. You wait until the 6th round.