Give me a realistic plan to replace Sanchez - Jets Insider.com Forums

JetsNeedNewton · 10-21-2012, 10:52 PM

Tired of repeating this in all the negative threads so here goes.

Hypothisis: Most here, except the really hard core haters, admit Sanchez plays great and horrible and that's his weakness. I say, the probability of success in cultivating the good and minimizing the bad has the best chance of success over our other options such as:

1) Replace him with Tebow or McElroy: Do you really think the coaching staff hasn't been evaluating these two and determined they weren't a better option? Do you know more than the people who work with the 3 every day do?

2) Get another QB: Where? Who can we buy?

3) Draft a QB: How? We won't get near a contender with our probable record this year. And do you think every drafted QB will work out like RG some of the other successes? How long are you willing to wait, without going into the same "he sucks" rant, before he is successful?

If you admit he has flashes of brilliance, but makes stupid mistakes and has outright horrible play at times, can you admit that maybe the QB coaching has not been effective over the last few years? Maybe that's where we need the change.

I don't have the answer, but I do know it's a hell of a lot cheaper and faster to rescue a faltering employee than it is to keep starting over and over.

How about a thread where people lay out feasible options instead of just commenting he sucks? Might be a refreshing change.

Dimitri_0515 · 10-21-2012, 10:53 PM

Philip Rivers, Tony Romo???

JetsNeedNewton · 10-21-2012, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

Philip Rivers, Tony Romo???

Are they available? Can we afford them under the cap?

leonwashington2 · 10-21-2012, 10:55 PM

Get the sense rivers will be available after this year....That said, do people really want him? His behavior on the field makes holmes look like a leader.

jet-sec125 · 10-21-2012, 10:58 PM

You can keep Rivers and Romo who have acclomplished less with more playmakers around them.

SlickBri481 · 10-21-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

Philip Rivers, Tony Romo???

Rivers is an interesting, if not unrealistic, idea. We'd have to offer something huge. Biggest question with him is - his play since 2011, indicative of the player he is now or just a bad stretch while playing for the worst coach in football in a horrible organization? Hard to say. No way Chargers move him though.

HessStation · 10-21-2012, 10:59 PM

Yikes at the thought of Rivers and Rex together.

crunchtime · 10-21-2012, 11:00 PM

without starting from scratch with a FA QB or a Rookie, the only thing to do is replace the QB coach with a PROVEN COACH! Sanchez flashes A LOT but for every BIGTIME throw, he gives you about 3 'WTF???!!!" moments a game.

simijet · 10-21-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jet-sec125

You can keep Rivers and Romo who have acclomplished less with more playmakers around them.

I would take both over Sanchez - but not at a ridiculous price.

Limolady · 10-21-2012, 11:01 PM

Call John Elway, tell him to gas up the private jet again and we'll swap Tebow for Peyton. Even money with both of them being merchandising magnets. (-;

carlito1171 · 10-21-2012, 11:04 PM

Sanchez is here and starting until 2014. Case Closed. Too much money invested in him until then to cut ties thanks to Tanny's extension. At that time I think we should draft a QB if there is a can't miss prospect and/or bring in a stop gap type of vet.

JetsNeedNewton · 10-21-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by carlito1171

Sanchez is here and starting until 2014. Case Closed. Too much money invested in him until then to cut ties thanks to Tanny's extension. At that time I think we should draft a QB if there is a can't miss prospect and/or bring in a stop gap type of vet.

This is the problem... Who? How? Once faced with these questions everyone seems pretty quiet.

carlito1171 · 10-21-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchtime

without starting from scratch with a FA QB or a Rookie, the only thing to do is replace the QB coach with a PROVEN COACH! Sanchez flashes A LOT but for every BIGTIME throw, he gives you about 3 'WTF???!!!" moments a game.

If you wanna keep Sanchez then yes this!!! IDK what's the deal with the blind loyalty to Mark Cavanaugh. Dude has done Jacksh*t. Not even a proven track record of developing QB's.

Manchez · 10-21-2012, 11:08 PM

The Jets should be bringing someone in to be a guru for Sanchez, someone with a proven history of grooming successful QB's.

Only the Jets would spend $50-$60 million on a "franchise QB" and bring in a career backup QB with an unsuccessful track record of coaching young QB's to be his freaking mentor AND KEEP HIM FOR 4 GD YEARS!!!

carlito1171 · 10-21-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsNeedNewton

This is the problem... Who? How? Once faced with these questions everyone seems pretty quiet.

Who knows what shakes up in College or in FA in 2 years. I think your question is suggesting there is some way to cut ties with Sanchez sooner rather than later. Unfortunately there isn't a way. We're stuck with Mark for the foreseeable future.

carlito1171 · 10-21-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Manchez

The Jets should be bringing someone in to be a guru for Sanchez, someone with a proven history of grooming successful QB's.

Only the Jets would spend $50-$60 million on a "franchise QB" and bring in a career backup QB with an unsuccessful track record of coaching young QB's to be his freaking mentor AND KEEP HIM FOR 4 GD YEARS!!!

TANNENGENIUS!!!!!! and MASTER REX!!!

unchartedm0nkey · 10-21-2012, 11:11 PM

With his guaranteed $ situation, he's here at least through next year (assuming nobody wants to take him off our hands, which probably isn't a reasonable thought). So if you want to talk about replacements, consider what QB's may be free agents after the 2013 season and what QB's may be coming out of school then.

crunchtime · 10-21-2012, 11:13 PM

What QB Coach in the NFL would you want??? Who is available and what would it cost to bring a REAL QB coach here??? These are the questions IMO.

Gastineau99 · 10-21-2012, 11:17 PM

Tebow or McElroy would have more wins than Sanchez this year. Rex and everyone in the building know it, they just don't have the balls to make the move.

Jets dont need someone to be great, they just need someone to not be horrible.

rainman · 10-21-2012, 11:17 PM

probably will have to acquire one through the draft, unless you take a flier on a Matt Flynn type and it works out, it is very hard to get decent quarterbacks (or any other NFL player really) through a mechanism other than the draft.

10-21-2012, 10:52 PM	#1
JetsNeedNewton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,697	Give me a realistic plan to replace Sanchez Tired of repeating this in all the negative threads so here goes. Hypothisis: Most here, except the really hard core haters, admit Sanchez plays great and horrible and that's his weakness. I say, the probability of success in cultivating the good and minimizing the bad has the best chance of success over our other options such as: 1) Replace him with Tebow or McElroy: Do you really think the coaching staff hasn't been evaluating these two and determined they weren't a better option? Do you know more than the people who work with the 3 every day do? 2) Get another QB: Where? Who can we buy? 3) Draft a QB: How? We won't get near a contender with our probable record this year. And do you think every drafted QB will work out like RG some of the other successes? How long are you willing to wait, without going into the same "he sucks" rant, before he is successful? If you admit he has flashes of brilliance, but makes stupid mistakes and has outright horrible play at times, can you admit that maybe the QB coaching has not been effective over the last few years? Maybe that's where we need the change. I don't have the answer, but I do know it's a hell of a lot cheaper and faster to rescue a faltering employee than it is to keep starting over and over. How about a thread where people lay out feasible options instead of just commenting he sucks? Might be a refreshing change.

10-21-2012, 10:53 PM	#2
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	Philip Rivers, Tony Romo???

10-21-2012, 10:55 PM	#4
leonwashington2 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 17	Get the sense rivers will be available after this year....That said, do people really want him? His behavior on the field makes holmes look like a leader.

10-21-2012, 10:58 PM	#5
jet-sec125 Idzik or Idiot to be determined Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,301	You can keep Rivers and Romo who have acclomplished less with more playmakers around them.

10-21-2012, 10:59 PM	#7
HessStation All Pro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,902	Yikes at the thought of Rivers and Rex together.

10-21-2012, 11:00 PM	#8
crunchtime GENO GOES DEEP!!!!! TOUCH DOWN!!!!!!! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 180	without starting from scratch with a FA QB or a Rookie, the only thing to do is replace the QB coach with a PROVEN COACH! Sanchez flashes A LOT but for every BIGTIME throw, he gives you about 3 'WTF???!!!" moments a game.

10-21-2012, 11:01 PM	#10
Limolady Here On A "Need To Know" Basis. Jets Insider VIP Super*****/Prom Queen Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,399	Call John Elway, tell him to gas up the private jet again and we'll swap Tebow for Peyton. Even money with both of them being merchandising magnets. (-;

10-21-2012, 11:04 PM	#11
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	Sanchez is here and starting until 2014. Case Closed. Too much money invested in him until then to cut ties thanks to Tanny's extension. At that time I think we should draft a QB if there is a can't miss prospect and/or bring in a stop gap type of vet.

10-21-2012, 11:08 PM	#14
Manchez 1st and 10, Greene smashes into Mangold's back... GO Sporano!!!! Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 283	The Jets should be bringing someone in to be a guru for Sanchez, someone with a proven history of grooming successful QB's. Only the Jets would spend $50-$60 million on a "franchise QB" and bring in a career backup QB with an unsuccessful track record of coaching young QB's to be his freaking mentor AND KEEP HIM FOR 4 GD YEARS!!!

10-21-2012, 11:11 PM	#17
unchartedm0nkey Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,253	With his guaranteed $ situation, he's here at least through next year (assuming nobody wants to take him off our hands, which probably isn't a reasonable thought). So if you want to talk about replacements, consider what QB's may be free agents after the 2013 season and what QB's may be coming out of school then.

10-21-2012, 11:13 PM	#18
crunchtime GENO GOES DEEP!!!!! TOUCH DOWN!!!!!!! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 180	What QB Coach in the NFL would you want??? Who is available and what would it cost to bring a REAL QB coach here??? These are the questions IMO.

10-21-2012, 11:17 PM	#19
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,345	Tebow or McElroy would have more wins than Sanchez this year. Rex and everyone in the building know it, they just don't have the balls to make the move. Jets dont need someone to be great, they just need someone to not be horrible.

10-21-2012, 11:17 PM	#20
rainman Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 378	probably will have to acquire one through the draft, unless you take a flier on a Matt Flynn type and it works out, it is very hard to get decent quarterbacks (or any other NFL player really) through a mechanism other than the draft.