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Old 10-22-2012, 12:22 PM   #121
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I think I've seen every single team in the league make an identical play call in the last 5 years, cmon. Sanchez was hot, and usually with that playcall you're only giving the QB one or two reads with the backup plan being to scramble up the middle for the first down/touchdown (since you've cleared out the middle of the field), I actually thought he made a pretty good throw too that Schillens probably should have made the grab although I'd need to see a replay to verify that.

But more or less that comes down to people making more and more excuses for a lack of simple execution. It's not the scheme that's letting Sanchez down, it boils back down to a lack of basic execution. Was it the scheme that caused the botched handoff safety or the blatant underthrow on the INT? Cmon, you're better then this.

My Point is this :

Shonn Greene...even during his worst games this season was still good for NO LESS than *TWO* Yards. The Jets had a 3rd and *ONE*.

You mean to tell me that Sparano didn't trust Shonn to get one measley yard whereas he managed to get 2 yards during his crappy outings by accident? That's weak-sauce on Tony. Real Weak.


And as far as the "botched handoff" goes, I blame BOTH Mark *and* Shonn for that.

Mark for not making sure the ball is in Shonn Greene's midsection and Shonn for not making sure the ball was secured in his hands before making a football move.

The INT was all on Mark, No question on that. No excuses.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:24 PM   #122
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Get a bigger lead, they know the play, after all that's what their O just did. LOL.
LOL. And you seriously think that if the Jets had a 7 pt lead at the end the Pats wouldn't have scored the game tying TD at the end of regulation?

Heck, if McCourty didn't fumble, you think Rex's Almighty D would have stopped Brady from driving down the field for the game winning FG before the end of regulation?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:26 PM   #123
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Defense did it's job holding the points down, O and ST couldn't capitalize, there should have been no overtime.
LOL. There wouldn't have been an OT if the D doesn't give up the gametying FG.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:26 PM   #124
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26-23 Jets with 1:30 remaining....Jets Defense on the field.


Sorry, Apache but it all came down to the Defense needing to make a stop....WHEN IT COUNTED!

That is the moment where the Defense should've "done its job" as you so eloquently put it. THEY DIDN'T.


If the Defense "did it's job" one more time during the final drive of regulation, we would be talking about a Huge Jets victory.
The Defense held all game game long, you can't expect the D to do all the work their backs are constantly up against the wall that's all you can ask a good D to do. Offense has to rack up more points instead of giving 6 and 2's and only scoring 3's.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:29 PM   #125
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@ConorTOrr: Take this for what it is: Last 3 games in NE @Patriots, Sanchez has 688 yards with 6 TDs, 1 INT and a 104.8 rating. #Jets #nyj


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Old 10-22-2012, 12:29 PM   #126
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:30 PM   #127
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The Defense held all game game long, you can't expect the D to do all the work their backs are constantly up against the wall that's all you can ask a good D to do. Offense has to rack up more points instead of giving 6 and 2's and only scoring 3's.
Backs against the wall? What are you talking about. The Jets O scored 26 points, 7 of which came on a 92 yd drive. The Jets D never put the O in good field position and when the game was on the line they gave up a game tying FG.

The Jets O WON TIME OF POSSESSION by over 5 minutes. The Jets O had more plays than the Pats' O. The Jets D couldn't get off the field enough, being a dreadful 9/17 on 3rd down.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:30 PM   #128
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The Defense held all game game long, you can't expect the D to do all the work their backs are constantly up against the wall that's all you can ask a good D to do. Offense has to rack up more points instead of giving 6 and 2's and only scoring 3's.
How were their backs against the wall? They were handed a lead with 1:30 left and s**t the bed. Like I said, its not entirely one persons or unit's fault for the loss. I just find it funny that some people are so biased toward one player or unit of the team, that they can not rationally evaluate the game.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:32 PM   #129
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LOL. And you seriously think that if the Jets had a 7 pt lead at the end the Pats wouldn't have scored the game tying TD at the end of regulation?

Heck, if McCourty didn't fumble, you think Rex's Almighty D would have stopped Brady from driving down the field for the game winning FG before the end of regulation?
Think about what you are saying, 7/3 in NE we were in the game. What was the difference, the Offense, they are in control, and had many opportunities.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:35 PM   #130
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Think about what you are saying, 7/3 in NE we were in the game. What was the difference, the Offense, they are in control, and had many opportunities.
Think about what you are saying. The defense didnt have any opportunities to win this game?? LOL

We know, you love the defense, but they deserve as much blame as anyone for this loss. You are just too blinded by your love for them.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:38 PM   #131
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How were their backs against the wall? They were handed a lead with 1:30 left and s**t the bed. Like I said, its not entirely one persons or unit's fault for the loss. I just find it funny that some people are so biased toward one player or unit of the team, that they can not rationally evaluate the game.
I'm not bias toward anyone, I am Pro Sanchez have been since day one. I can't wait to see him play from Q1-3 well instead of the 4th when the opposing D is tired.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #132
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Think about what you are saying. The defense didnt have any opportunities to win this game?? LOL

We know, you love the defense, but they deserve as much blame as anyone for this loss. You are just too blinded by your love for them.
rex has done a masterful job of convincing the fans that when the jets lose it's sanchez's fault, and when the jets win, it was a team effort led by the defense.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #133
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Sanchez is the main reason we lost this game. Doesn't have basic fundamentals down like handing a ball off, throwing high and away in the corner of the end zone. 4 years in the NFL and the guy friggin sucks. Only in NY do we still hold out hope for a player like him, anyone else in the country can easily see this.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:41 PM   #134
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Think about what you are saying. The defense didnt have any opportunities to win this game?? LOL

We know, you love the defense, but they deserve as much blame as anyone for this loss. You are just too blinded by your love for them.
Sure, tall order at the end, would have been great.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #135
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Sanchez is the main reason we lost this game. Doesn't have basic fundamentals down like handing a ball off, throwing high and away in the corner of the end zone. 4 years in the NFL and the guy friggin sucks. Only in NY do we still hold out hope for a player like him, anyone else in the country can easily see this.


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Old 10-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #136
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The Defense held all game game long, you can't expect the D to do all the work their backs are constantly up against the wall that's all you can ask a good D to do. Offense has to rack up more points instead of giving 6 and 2's and only scoring 3's.
True and there's some blame to go(ie Sparano's playcalling) on the O.

But facts are facts.

The "D" had a shot at ending the game right then and there with forcing a 4-and-Out and couldn't get the job done.

Everyone likes to remember the failures of the QB and conveniently brush aside the failures of the Defense LATE during crunch time.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:44 PM   #137
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True and there's some blame to go(ie Sparano's playcalling) on the O.

But facts are facts.

The "D" had a shot at ending the game right then and there with forcing a 4-and-Out and couldn't get the job done.

Everyone likes to remember the failures of the QB and conveniently brush aside the failures of the Defense LATE during crunch time.
yes.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:55 PM   #138
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Sanchez is the main reason we lost this game. Doesn't have basic fundamentals down like handing a ball off, throwing high and away in the corner of the end zone. 4 years in the NFL and the guy friggin sucks. Only in NY do we still hold out hope for a player like him, anyone else in the country can easily see this.
Sure. Whatever you say.

I mean it's not like the Defense not stopping the Pats with 1:30 remaining from tying the game was any reason we ended up losing.


Get a Grip and you disgrace the Pic of Vinny with this post. Vinny would be frowning at you, not smiling.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:58 PM   #139
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Think about what you are saying, 7/3 in NE we were in the game. What was the difference, the Offense, they are in control, and had many opportunities.
Yes or No.

If the Jets D stops the Pats O from getting a FG at the end of regulation, do the Jets win the game?
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:00 PM   #140
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The three plays the Jets controlled that would have likely led to a victory:

1) The 3-and-1 @ the 2
2) The Hill drop
3) The Kerley fall

The game was there to be won a few times over. The Hill drop was huge. And the sack Mark took before the go-ahead field goal - I re-watched the tape - if Kerley doesn't fall down there it's an easy completion and he is well past the 1st down marker.

Mark made mistakes - sure - but none of those three plays is on Mark.
So giving up safety bad handoff and missing a wide open hill for 7 didn't play factors in losing games smh.
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