Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!
LATEST JI HEADLINES
TOP STORY
New Jets RB Goodson Arrested on Drugs and Weapons
Charges
 
5/16 : Joe McKnight Doesn't Appreciate Questioning His Roster Spot
5/15 : QB Garrard to leave Jets
5/15 : uSTADIUM App Looks to Revolutionize Social Sports Media
5/14 : Idzik's Offensive Game Plan: Depth Along Front Line
Go Back   Jets Insider.com Forums > Beyond Sports > Politics and World Events
Reload this Page Same Sex Marriage
Register FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Politics and World Events A forum to discuss politics, world events or whatever is on your mind. Please be civil and respectful to other posters.

Reply
Page 1 of 7 1 23 Last »
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-24-2012, 05:37 PM   #1
jetman67
Wants a Superbowl, Thats It!!!
Hall Of Fame
Charter JI Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 10,382
Same Sex Marriage
Another issue on the Ballot here. I was once opposed because of my religious beliefs. I voted yes!!

After stepping back from my religious view, and how laws are supposed to be based, I decided that this issue falls under the original premise of the Declaration of Independence, where we all have the unalienable right to Life, Libery and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Our laws should not be based on religion, or what the Bible says.
jetman67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-24-2012, 05:41 PM   #2
Apache 51
Let's Kill them all.........
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge
Posts: 12,638
Smoke pot, smoke pole.
Apache 51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #3
Apache 51
Let's Kill them all.........
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge
Posts: 12,638
They changed from property to happiness, did you know that?
Apache 51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 05:44 PM   #4
21st Amendment
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 576
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetman67 View Post
Another issue on the Ballot here. I was once opposed because of my religious beliefs. I voted yes!!

After stepping back from my religious view, and how laws are supposed to be based, I decided that this issue falls under the original premise of the Declaration of Independence, where we all have the unalienable right to Life, Libery and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Our laws should not be based on religion, or what the Bible says.
Bravo sir.
21st Amendment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 05:57 PM   #5
HessStation
All Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,902
Absolutely. Rock on gay people!
HessStation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #6
jetman67
Wants a Superbowl, Thats It!!!
Hall Of Fame
Charter JI Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 10,382
Quote:
Originally Posted by HessStation View Post
Absolutely. Rock on gay people!
Yep, Anyone who wants to endure the misery of Marriage should be allowed to.
jetman67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 06:28 PM   #7
OCCH
glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . .
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,412
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetman67 View Post
Another issue on the Ballot here. I was once opposed because of my religious beliefs. I voted yes!!

After stepping back from my religious view, and how laws are supposed to be based, I decided that this issue falls under the original premise of the Declaration of Independence, where we all have the unalienable right to Life, Libery and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Our laws should not be based on religion, or what the Bible says.
If you step away from your religious view, then it's not really your religious view, is it?

If you believe something is "wrong", then you don't vote for it. If it becomes law anyway, so be it, but that doesn't mean you have to help it along the way (assuming it truly is something you don't agree with) . . .
OCCH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 06:45 PM   #8
21st Amendment
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 576
Quote:
Originally Posted by OCCH View Post
If you step away from your religious view, then it's not really your religious view, is it?

If you believe something is "wrong", then you don't vote for it. If it becomes law anyway, so be it, but that doesn't mean you have to help it along the way (assuming it truly is something you don't agree with) . . .
Wouldn't that be forcing and legislating your beliefs on someone else. Isn't that un-American? Frankly I find the the whole idea of the majority voting on the rights of a minority un-American.

Newark Mayor Cory Booker hits the nail on the head for me.

Last edited by 21st Amendment; 10-24-2012 at 06:56 PM.
21st Amendment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:00 PM   #9
HessStation
All Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,902
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetman67 View Post
Yep, Anyone who wants to endure the misery of Marriage should be allowed to.
yep in 10 years they're all gonna look back and say, we had it so made.
HessStation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #10
Axil
Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 785
Quote:
Originally Posted by OCCH View Post
If you step away from your religious view, then it's not really your religious view, is it?

If you believe something is "wrong", then you don't vote for it. If it becomes law anyway, so be it, but that doesn't mean you have to help it along the way (assuming it truly is something you don't agree with) . . .
No. I firmly believe that people have should have the legal right to do things i believe are morally wrong. In fact, there are many cases where i believe denying people the legal right to do things that are morally wrong is morally wrong.


*edit* though i wouldn't vote in favor of gay marriage. I believe the state should have no hand in marriage, and thus i would abstain from such a vote.
Axil is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #11
WestCoastOffensive
Lying to the Smithsonian
Board Moderator
Jets Insider VIP
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SF via Strong Island
Posts: 26,646
I don't understand....22 years married; I get the same sex every month now.


Will they take my vote for "Something ****ing New"?
WestCoastOffensive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:33 PM   #12
DDNYjets
Bye week buh bye Rex
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York
Posts: 12,259
Why can't we give them equal protection/benefits under the law but not call it "marriage"?

"Marriage" stays between a man and a woman.

Gays have to call it something else, but enjoy equal rights and misery.

Everybody wins.
DDNYjets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 07:45 PM   #13
HessStation
All Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,902
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
Why can't we give them equal protection/benefits under the law but not call it "marriage"?

"Marriage" stays between a man and a woman.

Gays have to call it something else, but enjoy equal rights and misery.

Everybody wins.
Because who cares. It's semantics. Let them do their thing.
HessStation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:07 PM   #14
21st Amendment
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 576
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
Why can't we give them equal protection/benefits under the law but not call it "marriage"?

"Marriage" stays between a man and a woman.

Gays have to call it something else, but enjoy equal rights and misery.

Everybody wins.
what gives you the right to tell someone else they can't call their relationship a marriage? Keep in mind straight people don't have a monopoly on religion. There are churches that will and do perform gay marriages.
21st Amendment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:14 PM   #15
piney
hip deep in dirty diapers
All League
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,618
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
Why can't we give them equal protection/benefits under the law but not call it "marriage"?

"Marriage" stays between a man and a woman.

Gays have to call it something else, but enjoy equal rights and misery.

Everybody wins.
why not just eliminate "Marriage" as a recognized union by the gov't? then people who are religious and want to get married get married and as far as the gov't is concerned everyone is in a civil union?

This way the straights get to keep their word and the gays get to feel equal?
piney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:17 PM   #16
jetman67
Wants a Superbowl, Thats It!!!
Hall Of Fame
Charter JI Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 10,382
Quote:
Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
Why can't we give them equal protection/benefits under the law but not call it "marriage"?

"Marriage" stays between a man and a woman.

Gays have to call it something else, but enjoy equal rights and misery.

Everybody wins.
Gay marriage existed long before Christianity. Native Americans considered it to be holy. Pharos and emperors had gay marriages.
jetman67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:19 PM   #17
Apache 51
Let's Kill them all.........
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge
Posts: 12,638
That's great. We aren't that.
Apache 51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:34 PM   #18
jetman67
Wants a Superbowl, Thats It!!!
Hall Of Fame
Charter JI Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 10,382
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apache 51 View Post
That's great. We aren't that.
We dont prevent people from living life their way if its not going to hurt the country
jetman67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:39 PM   #19
21st Amendment
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 576
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetman67 View Post
We dont prevent people from living life their way if its not going to hurt the country
Curious who you voted for in Washington's Governor race. If you don't mind.
21st Amendment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2012, 08:39 PM   #20
Apache 51
Let's Kill them all.........
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge
Posts: 12,638
I don't care what people do in their own lives, it's their business. Quit trying to change everything.
Apache 51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 7 1 23 Last »

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Politics and World Events | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


Enjoy an Ads-Free Jets Insider - Become a Jets Insider VIP!

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:43 AM.


Contact Us - Main Forum - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2013, JetsInsider.com LTD