10 new starters possible next year

[NYJ37/12]

Players gone

Moore
Howard
Slauson
Pace
Thomas
Bell
Scott
Hilliard
Greene
Keller

These are guys with their contract up or cap # too high.

[Nike]

Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

Players gone

Moore
Howard
Slauson
Pace
Thomas
Bell
Scott
Hilliard
Greene
Keller

These are guys with their contract up or cap # too high.

slauson bell greene and keller will be back.

[NYJ37/12]

Originally Posted by Nike

slauson bell greene and keller will be back.

I disagree

[Nike]

Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

I disagree

the jets are notorious for bringing guys back look at some of the slackers they brought back this year. the guys i mentioned arent the reason why we arent winning football games.

slauson is a solid lineman who doesnt commit penalties

bell is having a decent year seems to always be around the ball

greene needs to be paired up with a burner rb for ground and pound to work

keller arguably top 15 in the league at te ashame sanchez and sparano dont know how to utilize him

[patman]

Landry, Folk, Devito are also FA. And most posters figure Pouha and both Smiths will be cut.

And why do you think those 4 will return? and not be off to greener $$$ pastures

[Snell41]

You forgot to add Landry to the list. Also, even though he won't be gone we will likely be looking to replace Sanchez.

[PMarsico9]

Originally Posted by Snell41

You forgot to add Landry to the list. Also, even though he won't be gone we will likely be looking to replace Sanchez.

You are nuts if you think Woody isn't going to demand Tebow get a shot at starting.

Sanchez will likely be benched THIS YEAR. As many pointed out at the beginning of the season.

[Dreamers]

Here is more of a full list.

Austin Howard is a RFA and will get a 1 mil tenure. He'd be an OK BU IMO.

Maybe
Yeremiah Bell - Not hard to resign he just has to want to.
Dustin Keller - Will be costly for a TE will he give a discount? Draft a 5th round TE as a #2 option.
Laron Landry - Cheaper to keep then we think. Would be my #1 priority though.
Brandon Moore or Matt Slauson - One will be back. Moore is better but older so cheaper.
Bryan Thomas - Worth a vet min deal as a BU IMO. Right now may actually be our best OLB.
Darrelle Revis or Cro - I just have a feeling one of the two will be traded to either make more cap space or to add draft picks. If anyone is willing to give up a 1st for Revis I'll take it.
Sione Pouha - Cap cut. We have gotten good play out of the 2 young guys we have.
Tim Tebow - If we can get something back I'm in. wishful thinking
McElroy - Gone to make room for our next starter. HOPEFULLY
Sanchez - See Tebow. I am more in for just cutting our losses and just cutting him and taking the hit at this point.

Gone
Mike DeVito - gone
Nick Folk - gone maybe
Shonn Greene - gone
Aaron Maybin - gone
Chaz Schilens - gone
Jay Richardson - gone
Calvin Pace - gone
Eric Smith - gone hopefully
Jason Smith - gone
Bart Scott - gone

[Nike]

the jets will retain cro and revis the 2 best cbs in the nfl.

[Snell41]

Originally Posted by PMarsico9

You are nuts if you think Woody isn't going to demand Tebow get a shot at starting.

Sanchez will likely be benched THIS YEAR. As many pointed out at the beginning of the season.

Tebow will get his shot this year, he will derp it up and down the field, and then next year we'll be looking for Mark's replacement.

[LA Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by Nike

the jets will retain cro and revis the 2 best cbs in the nfl.

Are you saying that Cromartie is the 2nd best cornerback in the NFL?

Because if you are, you have to put down the Kool-Aid right now!!!!!!!!

[Chupa]

Originally Posted by LA Jet Fan

Are you saying that Cromartie is the 2nd best cornerback in the NFL?

Because if you are, you have to put down the Kool-Aid right now!!!!!!!!

who's better? and why? I want facts, stats, not anti-jets gibberish.

[NYJ37/12]

Originally Posted by Snell41

You forgot to add Landry to the list. Also, even though he won't be gone we will likely be looking to replace Sanchez.

I left guys off the list that I expect back like Landry

[MiseryLovesCompany99]

NOW THIS IS MY TYPE OF THREAD...
Been working on this continually, post it here and there but it is a week out of date, no Hicks, Allen on P.S. ...

NYJ FUTURE 2013 OUTLOOK-

$121 Million EXPECTED 2013 Cap Figure
$140.5 Million ALREADY 2013 Cap Committed

$19.5 Million OVER Current 2013 Cap Figure...

2013 EXPIRING CONTRACTS-
*Whole List In VALUE Order Below

UFA-
1. TE Dustin Keller
2. SS LaRon Landry
3. LE Mike DeVito
4. K Nick Folk*
5. FB Lex Hilliard
6. RB Shonn Greene*
7. FS Yerimiaha Bell
8. RG Brandon Moore
9. LG Matt Slauson
10. LOLB Bryan Thomas
11. ROLB Aaron Maybin
12. WR Chaz Schilens

RFA-
1. RT Austin Howard
2. TE Jeff Cumberland
3. LS Tanner Purdham
4. ILB Josh Mauga

ERFA-
1. CB Isaiha Trufant

12 UFA's, 4 RFA's, and 1 ERFA; 17 total free agents whom contracts are expiring. Based on the 53 man roster for 2012 all 17 players present pros and cons to being brought back, but all 17 players do or did have individual roles on this team though in 2012.

2013 EXPECTED SALARY CAP REALEASES-
Only 4 contracts are worth shedding but they are 4 that are worthy of makings the moves for the money it will save. A player like RT Jason Smith, or even SS Eric Smith could always be retained at a cheaper price for special teams and leadership.

RT Jason Smith brings the biggest savings of the off-season with $12 Million dollars coming off the books clean with a zero cap hit when Smith gets the axe. If the FO liked what they saw in '12 he is young enough with a high enough cieling to be considered worth a roster spot in Wayne Hunter's old "swing" tackle role.

ILB Bart Scott would save $5.5 Million off the cap. This is why I feel the talk of him getting released prior to this year was crazy. Waiting for 2013 saved us with $1.5 Million cap hit and a $7 Million savings. Demario Davis will be primed and ready by then.

ROLB Calvin Pace represents a $5.5 Million savings by cutting the underwhelming OLB in 2013. A cap hit of $3 Million would be dead money, but it would come with a savings of $8.5 Million. The Outside Linebacker position will be hurting but will be a draft day fix for sure, right?

SS Eric Smith would be a savings of $3 Million if the team would need to shave off a little more space for a big move. Smith can be cut with no cap hit whatsoever, and is just a must for the money saved much alike Jason Smith's deal above.

TOTAL CAP SAVINGS ABOVE-
$12 Million RT Jason Smith
$5.5 Million ILB Bart Scott
$5.5 Million OLB Calvin Pace
$3 Million SS Eric Smith
TOTAL-
$26 Million Cap Room Made...

TOTAL DEAD MONEY ABOVE-
$3 Million OLB Calvin Pace
$1.5 Million ILB Bart Scott
$0 Million RT Jason Smith
$0 Million SS Eric Smith
TOTAL-
$4.5 Million Dead Money Above...

$19.5 Million OVER 2013 Cap
+$26 Million Room MADE In Cuts

$6.5 Million UNDER Cap Total...

POSSIBLE 2013 CAP ROOM-
- $4-$6 Million cap credit from the 2012 salary cap left over money. This number surely can fluxuate due to injuries in the season but if the roster is not tweaked with any type of sizeable contract $5 million is a number that is feasable.

- CB Darrelle Revis getting "paid" as some would say would actually help the Jets. All hands on deck because it is time and maybe overdue for getting the long term deal both he, an the fans have been craving. The key to this negotiation is getting the deal that will lock him in for the long term and not just one that will get by. Revis getting that deal with the Jets cutting a sizeable chunck up front can give a little wiggle room cap wise in the form of $3-$5 Million.

- C Nick Mangold can do the restructure that has almost become expected when "long term" deals are signed now. Mangold is not only the type of guy and player that would do this, but again to get this done Woody Johnson is cutting a nice check to turn salary into bonus and who turns down a multi million dollar check? Mangold could releive anywhere from $3-$5 Million much alike the Revis cap relief.*

TOTAL CAP ROOM MADE-
$5 Cap Rollover
$4 Revis Contract
$4 Mangold Restructure
$13 Million Cap Room Made...

$6.5 Million UNDER The Cap
+$13 Million Cap Room MADE

$19.5 Million TOTAL Cap Room
-$5 Million 2013 Rookie Pool

$14.5 Million TOTAL Cap Room To Work With...

NYJ FA PROJECTED 2013 CONTRACTS-
*Order In List Above

Unrestricted Free Agents-
1. TE Dustin Keller
- 5 years $25 million $14 million guarenteed $5 million anually $4 million cap hit 2013

2. SS LaRon Landry
- 4 years $20 million $12 million guarenteed $5 million anually $4 million cap hit 2013*

3. LE Mike DeVito
- 2 years $5 million $3 million guarenteed $2.5 million anually $1.5 million cap hit 2013

4. K Nick Folk
- 2 years $5 million $3 million guarenteed $2.5 million anually $1.5 million cap hit 2013

5. FB Lex Hilliard
- 1 year $850K zero guarenteed $500K cap hit 2013

6. RB Shonn Greene*
- Allow To Test FA/Can't Afford

7. FS Yerimiaha Bell
- Allow To Test FA/Can't Afford

8. RG Brandon Moore
- Allow To Test FA/Declining '12
*
9. LG Matt Slauson
- Said To Be Leaving/Paycut In '12

10. LOLB Bryan Thomas
- Allow To Test FA/Retire

11. ROLB Aaron Maybin
-Allow To Test FA/Dissapointment

12. WR Chaz Schilens
-Allow To Test FA/Dissapointment

TOTAL- $11.5 Million Spent Above

Restricted Free Agents-
1. RT Austin Howard
- Restricted Tender $750 K

2. TE Jeff Cumberland
- Restricted Tender $750 K

3. LS Tanner Purdham
- Restricted Tender $750 K

4. ILB Josh Mauga
- Allow To Test FA/2012 I.R.'ed

TOTAL- $2.25 Million Spent Above

Exclusive Rights Free Agents-
1. CB Isaiha Trufant
- Restricted Tender $500 K

TOTAL- $500K Spent Above

MONEY SPENT ABOVE-
$11.5 UFA'S
$2.25 RFA'S
$500K ERFA'S

$14.25 Million SPENT Above*
$14.5 Million TOTAL Available

$250K UNDER The Cap...
(*2013 Rookie Pool INCLUDED)

-8 2013 FA PROJECTED "LOSSES"-
1. RB Shonn Greene
2. FS Yerimiaha Bell
3. RG Brandon Moore
4. LG Matt Slauson
5. LOLB Bryan Thomas
6. WR Chaz Schilens
7. ROLB Aaron Maybin
8. ILB Josh Mauga

12 TOTAL 2013 PROJECTED PLAYER *"LOSSES"-
1. RB Shonn Greene
2. FS Yerimiaha Bell
3. RG Brandon Moore*
4. LG Matt Slauson*
5. ILB Bart Scott
6. ROLB Calvin Pace
7. LOLB Bryan Thomas
8. WR Chaz Schilens*
9. RT Jason Smith
10. SS Eric Smith
11. ROLB Aaron Maybin
12. ILB Josh Mauga

3 POTENTIAL COSTLY SALARY CUTS-
*Only Feasible Players NOT Suggestions

1. WR Santonio Holmes-
Holmes would potentially be $11.25 million in dead money if released, yeilding only a $1.25 million dollar cap relief. This savings *would be nice with how pressing the salary cap situation is, but even though he looks like "addition by subtraction" can we afford to cut Santonio with a huge need for offensive playmakers?

2. ILB David Harris-*
Harris is a release I just could not see, having said that $9 million in *dead money hurts, but $4 million *saved is a free agent or two alone and with our cap situation it is discussable. David looks like he may have lost a step but even with the huge contract "Hitman" has to stay in the middle, right?

3. NT Sione Pouha-
Pouha represents a reasonable $2.3 million dead money hit, as well as offering the best value of the proposed players with $3.85 million saved. Sione signed this deal just last season but back issues are very tricky, let alone on a 325 lbs. man. Can Kenrick Ellis and or Damon Harrison fill these big shoes if need be?

TOTAL CAP SAVINGS ABOVE-
$1.25 Million WR Santonio Holmes
$4 Million ILB David Harris
$3.85 Million NT Sione Pouha
TOTAL-
$9.1 Million Cap Room POSSIBLY Made...

TOTAL DEAD MONEY ABOVE-
$11.25 Million WR Santonio Holmes
$9 Million ILB David Harris
$2.35 Million NT Sione Pouha
TOTAL-
$22.6 Million Dead Money POSSIBLY Above...

2013 PROJECTED
DEPTH CHART-
(Pre 2013 NFL Draft)
*denotes player backing up at multiple positions

OFFENSE-
QB- Mark Sanchez #6, Tim Tebow #15, Greg McElroy #14
WCAT- *Tim Tebow #15, *Jeremy Kerley #11
RB- Bilal Powell #29, Joe Mcknight #25
FB- Lex Hilliard #36, Josh Baker #45
WR- Santonio Holmes #10, Jeremy Kerley #11, Clyde Gates #19
WR- Stephen Hill #85, Jordan White #17, Royce Pollard #18
TE- Dustin Keller #81, Jeff Cumberland #86, Konrad Rueland #87, Hayden Smith #82, Dedrick Epps #83
LT- D'Brickashaw Ferguson #60
LG- Vladmir Ducasse #62
C- Nick Mangold #74
RG- Caleb Schladeraff #72 (C)
RT- Austin Howard #77*
TOTAL= 23

DEFENSE-
RE- Muhammad Wilkerson #96, Matt Hardison #61
NT- Sione Pouha #91, Kenrick Ellis #93, Damon Harrison #71
LE- Quinton Coples #98, Mike DeVito #70
ROLB- Ricky Sapp #55
ILB- David Harris #52, Nick Bellore #54
ILB- Demario Davis #56, Marcus Dowtin #92
LOLB- Garrett McItyre #50
CB- Darrelle Revis #24, Aaron Berry #22, Isaiha Trufant #35
FS- Josh Bush #32
SS- LaRon Landry #30, Antonio Allen #39
CB-Antonio Cromartie #31, Kyle Wilson #20, Ellis Lankster #26, Darrin Walls #29
TOTAL= 23

SPECIALS-
K- Nick Folk #2
P- Robert Malone #3
LS- Tanner Purdham #46
TOTAL= 3

23 Offensive Players
23 Defensive Players
3 Special Teams Players

49 Total Players Above
*Pre-Draft Picks

90 TOTAL Players Allowed By NFL Rule...

PROJECTED DEPTH CHART BREAKDOWN-
QB-3
RB-2
FB-2
WR-6
TE-5
OL-5
TOTAL- 23

DL-7
LB-6
CB-7
S-3
TOTAL-23
ST- 3

ROSTER TOTAL-49

2013 NFL DRAFT TOP 10 PROJECTED NEEDS-

1. RG
1A. ROLB
3. RB*
4. FS
5. LOLB
6. WR
7. RT
8. RE
9. LT
10. LG

[LA Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by Chupa

who's better? and why? I want facts, stats, not anti-jets gibberish.

Lets start with names

Jonathan Joseph
Charles Woodson
ladarius Webb
Charles Tillman
Richard Sherman
Champ Bailey
Tim Jennings
Cary Williams


Now Stats

Cromartie 19 tackles 3 Int 0 Forced Fumbles
Cary Williams 48 tackles 4 Int 1 Forced Fumble
Tim Jennings 38 tackles 5 int 3 Forced Fumbles
Charles Tillman 43 tackles 2 int 7 Forced Fumbles
Richard Sherman 34 tackles 4int 3 Forced Fumbles

The list keeps going, my point is Cromartie is a real good cornerback but by no means is he the 2nd best in the NFL.

Cheers!!

[Mr. Toon]

Originally Posted by LA Jet Fan

Lets start with names

Jonathan Joseph
Charles Woodson
ladarius Webb
Charles Tillman
Richard Sherman
Champ Bailey
Tim Jennings
Cary Williams


Now Stats

Cromartie 19 tackles 3 Int 0 Forced Fumbles
Cary Williams 48 tackles 4 Int 1 Forced Fumble
Tim Jennings 38 tackles 5 int 3 Forced Fumbles
Charles Tillman 43 tackles 2 int 7 Forced Fumbles
Richard Sherman 34 tackles 4int 3 Forced Fumbles

The list keeps going, my point is Cromartie is a real good cornerback but by no means is he the 2nd best in the NFL.

Cheers!!

woah. facts/stats included. very rare on this site.

[LA Jet Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Toon

woah. facts/stats included. very rare on this site.

Yeah I agree with you, but in this case I felt it was necessary for people to see that while Cro has been defending well he does not tackle well and does not create the turnovers that alot of the elite cornerbacks do.

[jets rooter]

Originally Posted by Nike

slauson bell greene and keller will be back.

slauson will be cut for sure.he is not the same player since his injury.bell was a mistake for the jets to sign him.miami cut him for a reason.keller is an over rated player.he is not worth the money the jets are paying him.the jets had better wakeup soon.or they will be the laughing stock of the n.f.l.

[kennesawjet]

Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

Players gone

Moore
Howard
Slauson
Pace
Thomas
Bell
Scott
Hilliard
Greene
Keller

These are guys with their contract up or cap # too high.

we are in rebuilding mode by default. you dont have all those fa and contracts up and try to win............

[jets rooter]

the bottom linr is that the jets are in trouble.thanks to the jets front office and coaching staff.