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Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:19 PM

2009-2010 a fluke? i think it could be the calibre of wrs hes been forced to play with this season. last year with plax he was money in the red zone.

why not sign terrell owens plaxico burress or chad johnson and see what he can do with them.

McGinley · 11-15-2012, 09:25 PM

Just like with any other game manager, you gotta build talent up around him. Sanchez isn't gonna be this guy that elevates the play of those around him, so it's crucial that you give him weapons to work with.

Never put the game in his hands because it will inevitably end up in the hands of a defender. At least now that he's been broken.

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Just like with any other game manager, you gotta build talent up around him. Sanchez isn't gonna be this guy that elevates the play of those around him, so it's crucial that you give him weapons to work with.

Never put the game in his hands because it will inevitably end up in the hands of a defender. At least now that he's been broken.

i agree but why not cut gates and j hill and replace with two of the guys i mentioned and see what he can do with them? i know they are old but they can still run and catch. nothing to lose.

halfsharkalligatorhalfman · 11-15-2012, 09:34 PM

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i agree but why not cut gates and j hill and replace with two of the guys i mentioned and see what he can do with them? i know they are old but they can still run and catch. nothing to lose.

At this point what do you gain? They have to learn the playbook and come with added distractions. Team isn't winning this year. Better off trying to develop Kerley and Stephen Hill. Gates hasn't been terrible either. All could develop with playing time, signing those guys just takes it away from them.

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:39 PM

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At this point what do you gain? They have to learn the playbook and come with added distractions. Team isn't winning this year. Better off trying to develop Kerley and Stephen Hill. Gates hasn't been terrible either. All could develop with playing time, signing those guys just takes it away from them.

we are 3-6 we could accomplish 10-6. add some vets and spark. old guys rule!

McGinley · 11-15-2012, 09:42 PM

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we are 3-6 we could accomplish 10-6. add some vets and spark. old guys rule!

Screw. Play for draft position.

Dreamers · 11-15-2012, 09:42 PM

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2009-2010 a fluke? i think it could be the calibre of wrs hes been forced to play with this season. last year with plax he was money in the red zone.

why not sign terrell owens plaxico burress or chad johnson and see what he can do with them.

He was pretty horrid in 09 too. 2010 wasn't any better then 2011 too. Non of those over aged hacks gives him better targets. The WRs are not to blame this year nor is the OL.

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:44 PM

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He was pretty horrid in 09 too. 2010 wasn't any better then 2011 too. Non of those over aged hacks gives him better targets. The WRs are not to blame this year nor is the OL.

i disagree, sanchez needs guys who go up for the ball and battle, guys with some speed and height and long arm spans for all his errant passes he throws. braylon and cotchery made him look good as plax did last year in the red zone.

w0mbat · 11-15-2012, 09:45 PM

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2009-2010 a fluke? i think it could be the calibre of wrs hes been forced to play with this season.

Or maybe its not the receivers and its his fault for his awful performance in the red zone this year.

Clean pocket

Receiver wide open in middle of the field

Result of the play is a pick.

DBAKE · 11-15-2012, 09:46 PM

It wouldn't matter who he has at wr.....he sucks....he will always suck....end of story....stop trying to make excuses for the guy.....HE SUCKS!!!

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:46 PM

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Or maybe its not the receivers and its his fault for his awful performance in the red zone this year.

Clean pocket

Receiver wide open in middle of the field

Result of the play is a pick.

he knows hill cant catch.

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:47 PM

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It wouldn't matter who he has at wr.....he sucks....he will always suck....end of story....stop trying to make excuses for the guy.....HE SUCKS!!!

i know he sucks im just trying to salvage the season.

SAR I · 11-15-2012, 09:48 PM

I don't know Nike, is the sky blue?

SAR I

Nike · 11-15-2012, 09:48 PM

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I don't know Nike, is the sky blue?

SAR I

right now its black. thanks

Dreamers · 11-15-2012, 10:02 PM

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i disagree, sanchez needs guys who go up for the ball and battle, guys with some speed and height and long arm spans for all his errant passes he throws. braylon and cotchery made him look good as plax did last year in the red zone.

so your saying no and agreeing with me. how is that disagreeing. Crap or not Mark has never looked good. NEVER. It doesn't matter who his WRs have been.

10PennyToColes87 · 11-15-2012, 10:09 PM

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Or maybe its not the receivers and its his fault for his awful performance in the red zone this year.

Clean pocket

Receiver wide open in middle of the field

Result of the play is a pick.

Embarrassing, Mark.

jxc · 11-15-2012, 10:17 PM

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Or maybe its not the receivers and its his fault for his awful performance in the red zone this year.

Clean pocket

Receiver wide open in middle of the field

Result of the play is a pick.

He's missed wide open receivers in the end zone at least twice this year.
There has been two separate games where the offense scored 0 points.
The coach says Mark Sanchez gives the team "the best chance to win".

There's no fixing this situation.

samoljets · 11-15-2012, 10:27 PM

He's somewhere in between. Not great but not horrible either. He's 25. He will win this week . 2 Tds 1 reall y bad pick

patman · 11-16-2012, 06:49 AM

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He's somewhere in between. Not great but not horrible either. He's 25. He will win this week . 2 Tds 1 reall y bad pick

What is the "he's 25" mean? He has played over 60 nfl games, 16 preseason games, Three full offseasons, 4 training camps as a NFL QB. The "he's 25" is valid for spending a lot of time on the town and dating 17yo, but that is it.

He is not showing the progression as a QB that he should be at this stage.

Sanchez has shown that he is a complimentary qb. If he has a superior supporting cast at the oline and skill positions, he can and has won some big games. If he does not and has a average or below average he can not do anything to help the team.

EM31 · 11-16-2012, 07:45 AM

Sanchez gives the Jets the best chance to win....

.... To win a high draft pick.

11-15-2012, 09:19 PM	#1
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	does sanchez need better experienced wrs to be a decent qb? 2009-2010 a fluke? i think it could be the calibre of wrs hes been forced to play with this season. last year with plax he was money in the red zone. why not sign terrell owens plaxico burress or chad johnson and see what he can do with them.

11-15-2012, 09:25 PM	#2
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,467	Just like with any other game manager, you gotta build talent up around him. Sanchez isn't gonna be this guy that elevates the play of those around him, so it's crucial that you give him weapons to work with. Never put the game in his hands because it will inevitably end up in the hands of a defender. At least now that he's been broken.

11-15-2012, 09:46 PM	#10
DBAKE i was right about suckchez Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 3,220	It wouldn't matter who he has at wr.....he sucks....he will always suck....end of story....stop trying to make excuses for the guy.....HE SUCKS!!!

11-15-2012, 09:48 PM	#13
SAR I is excitedly looking forward to December22, the last home game, The Rexecution Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 38,710	I don't know Nike, is the sky blue? SAR I

11-15-2012, 10:27 PM	#18
samoljets I'll help Tebow pack and drive him to the airport, just get rid of him already! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 108	He's somewhere in between. Not great but not horrible either. He's 25. He will win this week . 2 Tds 1 reall y bad pick

11-16-2012, 07:45 AM	#20
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,160	Sanchez gives the Jets the best chance to win.... .... To win a high draft pick.