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Gastineau99 · 11-18-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptowngreengang

Interesting note from one of the sports analysts. The number of people who have lost their jobs as a result of the Tim Tebow factor is interesting and is sure to rise at the end of this season.

Josh McDaniels
Kyle Orton

Possibly:
Mike Tannenbaum
Rex Ryan
Tony Sparano
Matt Slauson
"Anonymous" teammates. At least those who the front office believes talked off the record

At the end of the day they have to ask themselves, was all of this worth it. Congratulations Mr. Tannenbaum. Your career as a GM will be defined by this failed experiment.

Haha... Like its Tin Tebos fault Sporano, Tanny, Rex and Skaudon suck. I guess Tebow is responsible for all Tanny whifs in the draft and was the reason Rex lost control of the team last year.

Sanchez will be more responsible for these guys losing their jobs than anyone else.

Gastineau99 · 11-18-2012, 12:10 PM

Dumbest thread ever

sec.101row23 · 11-18-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastineau99

Haha... Like its Tin Tebos fault Sporano, Tanny, Rex and Skaudon suck. I guess Tebow is responsible for all Tanny whifs in the draft and was the reason Rex lost control of the team last year.

Sanchez will be more responsible for these guys losing their jobs than anyone else.

Very true. Blaming Tim for the Jets demise is simply wrong. You can argue whether you thought he should be on the team or the role he should play, but to blame him for 3-6 is blaming the wrong guy.

JetsNeedNewton · 11-18-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by C Mart

If only Woody Johnson could be one too

Are either of his parents alive? Maybe they could take the team away as punishment for farking it up so badly.

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

What are you his little side kick?

I'm his friend. Get over your rustledness, mate.

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Guy is a fraud of a Jet fan and a clown

We have debated his loyalties and fandom many times before. We know what he is, so why even bring that up? However, he is no clown. If you would just listen to and talk with him, you'd realize he's actually very intelligent and knows his football.

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You want to debate the topic with him have at it.

I've done so many times. I'm not the one making silly comments without debating his points, though.

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You have the same point of view, you run around in circles with him.

Yes, I do have the same/similar point of view. However, I at least debate him on those views when I make snide remarks.

Demosthenes9 · 11-18-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

I'm his friend. Get over your rustledness, mate.

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We have debated his loyalties and fandom many times before. We know what he is, so why even bring that up? However, he is no clown. If you would just listen to and talk with him, you'd realize he's actually very intelligent and knows his football.

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I've done so many times. I'm not the one making silly comments without debating his points, though.

Yep, you actually put up valid logical arguments and try to refute/rebut points. You know, actual intelligent debate and discussion.

Sec on the other hand /????

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Yes, I do have the same/similar point of view. However, I at least debate him on those views when I make snide remarks.

Think you might have misinterpreted this one. Sec was saying that your views are similar to mine, which, they aren't. It's why we disagree so often

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Think you might have misinterpreted this one. Sec was saying that your views are similar to mine, which, they aren't. It's why we disagree so often

Ah, I see what you mean. Yea, that makes no sense, lol. Everyone knows I'm definitely not drinking the same brand of Bourbon that Tebow fans are.

sec.101row23 · 11-18-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Ah, I see what you mean. Yea, that makes no sense, lol. Everyone knows I'm definitely not drinking the same brand of Bourbon that Tebow fans are.

You have the same point of view as I, that Tebow was a PR move made by Woody.

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

You have the same point of view as I, that Tebow was a PR move made by Woody.

If that's what you meant, then yes. I definitely believe Tebow2NY was a complete Woody move.

leftturn3 · 11-18-2012, 12:29 PM

this is just an asinine thought, there is more money on the table for Woody if Manning is steering the ship over T-bow, hands down. Woody is not dumb, you can collect two fold with Manning, not only just the name, but also a legitimate shoot at being a contender that will rake in money.

Somewhere they got lost and missed the boat.

Take T-bow out of the mix right now, remove him from the team in your mind. Botton line, we have a D that holds up, if you have a top QB you need somewhat serviceable players on offense, if you have a somewhat serviciable QB, you need top offensive playmakers, we have neither. this falls on Tanny and Rex, not Woody. T-bow is not even in the equation except for the media.

If his name was not "T-Bow", he would not even be of intrest. if his name was Smith, Johnson or Goldburg he would not even be relevant.

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:31 PM

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this is just an asinine thought, there is more money on the table for Woody if Manning is steering the ship over T-bow, hands down. Woody is not dumb, you can collect two fold with Manning, not only just the name, but also a legitimate shoot at being a contender that will rake in money.

Somewhere they got lost and missed the boat.

Take T-bow out of the mix right now, remove him from the team in your mind. Botton line, we have a D that holds up, if you have a top QB you need somewhat serviceable players on offense, if you have a somewhat serviciable QB, you need top offensive playmakers, we have neither. this falls on Tanny and Rex, not Woody. T-bow is not even in the equation except for the media.

If his name was not "T-Bow", he would not even be of intrest. if his name was Smith, Johnson or Goldburg he would not even be relevant.

Yea, but Peyton never wanted to come here anyway. No way was he going to finish out his great career with this mess of a Franchise.

sec.101row23 · 11-18-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

Yea, but Peyton never wanted to come here anyway. No way was he going to finish out his great career with this mess of a Franchise.

Correct. It took Manning all of 8 seconds to tell the Jets no.

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:38 PM

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Correct. It took Manning all of 8 seconds to tell the Jets "lol, no. GFY, lameasses".

Fixed for accuracy.

Demosthenes9 · 11-18-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

If that's what you meant, then yes. I definitely believe Tebow2NY was a complete Woody move.

But you recognize that there were valid football reasons for bringing him in, and that it's your opinion that this was completely a PR move

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

But you recognize that there were valid football reasons for bringing him in, and that it's your opinion that this was completely a PR move

A complete PR move? No. A complete WOODY move? Yes.

There are minimal football reasons for bringing Tim in (great on 3rd and short, "WC", leadership, etc), but my main opinion is that Woody brought him here for the attention above all else. ****, why wouldn't he? If this were my Franchise and I had the chance to bring in the most polarizing football player in YEARS, do you honestly believe I would stop short of pimping out my own mother to get him here? Ohhhhhhhhhh no. No. No, no, no. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Warfish · 11-18-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptowngreengang

Interesting note from one of the sports analysts. The number of people who have lost their jobs as a result of the Tim Tebow factor is interesting and is sure to rise at the end of this season.

Josh McDaniels
Kyle Orton

Possibly:
Mike Tannenbaum
Rex Ryan
Tony Sparano
Matt Slauson
"Anonymous" teammates. At least those who the front office believes talked off the record

At the end of the day they have to ask themselves, was all of this worth it. Congratulations Mr. Tannenbaum. Your career as a GM will be defined by this failed experiment.

Because those folks will lose their jobs because of Tebows play on the field, not Sanchez's. Not because of their own failures, right?

What a fail thread this is. The silly baseless hatred of Tebow just oozes from it.

sec.101row23 · 11-18-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Because those folks will lose their jobs because of Tebows play on the field, not Sanchez's. Not because of their own failures, right?

What a fail thread this is. The silly baseless hatred of Tebow just oozes from it.

Makes as much sense as firing a coach because the punter was bad.

Demosthenes9 · 11-18-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

A complete PR move? No. A complete WOODY move? Yes.

There are minimal football reasons for bringing Tim in (great on 3rd and short, "WC", leadership, etc), but my main opinion is that Woody brought him here for the attention above all else. ****, why wouldn't he? If this were my Franchise and I had the chance to bring in the most polarizing football player in YEARS, do you honestly believe I would stop short of pimping out my own mother to get him here? Ohhhhhhhhhh no. No. No, no, no. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Can't say that I disagree.

The specific point that I'm making though is actually one that C Man made earlier, which is that no one really knows. At best, one can offer the OPINION that Woody forced the move AND that it was done for PR reasons.

That said, it's also completely possible that Tanny, Rex and Sparano wanted Tebow here for "valid football reasons".

As outsiders, we just don't know. We might have opinions, but they are just that.

Going further, there are a number of ways where it could have been both. Perhaps Woody saw both sides, the football side and the PR value, and it was a win/win for him. Maybe Rex and company wanted Tebow for football reasons, and had to run such a decision by Woody and woody was all for it either purely for PR, or for both.

McGinley · 11-18-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Can't say that I disagree.

The specific point that I'm making though is actually one that C Man made earlier, which is that no one really knows. At best, one can offer the OPINION that Woody forced the move AND that it was done for PR reasons.

That said, it's also completely possible that Tanny, Rex and Sparano wanted Tebow here for "valid football reasons".

As outsiders, we just don't know. We might have opinions, but they are just that.

Going further, there are a number of ways where it could have been both. Perhaps Woody saw both sides, the football side and the PR value, and it was a win/win for him. Maybe Rex and company wanted Tebow for football reasons, and had to run such a decision by Woody and woody was all for it either purely for PR, or for both.

Of course. I've had this idea for some time that you can be 99% sure about some things and have a good idea.

Demosthenes9 · 11-18-2012, 01:04 PM

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Of course. I've had this idea for some time that you can be 99% sure about some things and have a good idea.

Are you just sitting here waiting for SEC to come back with:

"Derp, 6 games" again ????

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leftturn3 Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 290	this is just an asinine thought, there is more money on the table for Woody if Manning is steering the ship over T-bow, hands down. Woody is not dumb, you can collect two fold with Manning, not only just the name, but also a legitimate shoot at being a contender that will rake in money. Somewhere they got lost and missed the boat. Take T-bow out of the mix right now, remove him from the team in your mind. Botton line, we have a D that holds up, if you have a top QB you need somewhat serviceable players on offense, if you have a somewhat serviciable QB, you need top offensive playmakers, we have neither. this falls on Tanny and Rex, not Woody. T-bow is not even in the equation except for the media. If his name was not "T-Bow", he would not even be of intrest. if his name was Smith, Johnson or Goldburg he would not even be relevant.