2012-13 NY Knicks Thread

[greenwichjetfan]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Kidd is nowhere near the player he was in his first couple seasons with the Nets when he was arguably the best player in the world. But there is just something about his presence that makes any team he plays on gel beautifully.

Lol, I realize that at 39, he's not the same player he was at 29.

That was more of a 'spur of the moment' (pun included), bravado thing.

Point is, he's still ballin and his presence is felt everytime he's on the court; even if its something as nondescript as patting JR on the butt and tellin him to keep at it when he's struggling, or taking the blame for a stolen pass that Tyson should have had.

[Dirtstar]

Originally Posted by SMC

Incredible win by Knicks. Melo struggling scoring but hitting the boards and playing well on D. Felton and Kidd were outstanding.

For tonight, Woodson said after the Spurs game that Melo would guard Randolph and give him help if necessary, but I think Melo needs a breack after taking a beating the last 2 games. Perhaps we'll see some of Thomas and Camby.

Melo takes a beating every night, moreso now that he's playing the 4 so much. for all the talk about stars getting all the calls it seems the opposite is true in Carmelo's case, he gets hammered around the basket but the refs don't protect him like they do other big names.

that being said, Woodson better be ready to play Camby and KT tonight, or we're gonna get crushed on the boards and in the post. they haven't played much lately because teams have been playing small against us, but we're gonna have to adjust to ZBO and Gasol.

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

Melo takes a beating every night, moreso now that he's playing the 4 so much. for all the talk about stars getting all the calls it seems the opposite is true in Carmelo's case, he gets hammered around the basket but the refs don't protect him like they do other big names.

that being said, Woodson better be ready to play Camby and KT tonight, or we're gonna get crushed on the boards and in the post. they haven't played much lately because teams have been playing small against us, but we're gonna have to adjust to ZBO and Gasol.

I'm worried about Melo playing most of the season at the 4. While it's working now I think in the long run it would be a mistake and we risk losing him come playoff time. Start having Melo play the 3 on defense at least.

Oh yeah, big shocker that the refs don't give Melo any calls. He's a Knick. If it was Derrick Rose or Kobe getting pounded like that they'd spend the entire game at the line.

[Dirtstar]

i'm honestly impressed by this Knicks team.

i loved how they fought back in the Memphis game, and more importantly, i loved how they fought. this team obviously cares about winning, and they expect to win, and when they're losing they take it personally. they didn't linger on the loss and took care of an inferior Pacers team, even on short rest.

the one thing i couldn't stand from the Knicks over the last decade was their apathy to losing. nobody seemed to care, nobody seemed bothered if a star player came into MSG and lit us up, and they didn't mind giving up easy layups and dunks. that was a far cry from the Knicks i grew up watching, and this team seems to have recaptured that fire and toughness that characterized those great teams from the 90s.

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

i'm honestly impressed by this Knicks team.

i loved how they fought back in the Memphis game, and more importantly, i loved how they fought. this team obviously cares about winning, and they expect to win, and when they're losing they take it personally. they didn't linger on the loss and took care of an inferior Pacers team, even on short rest.

the one thing i couldn't stand from the Knicks over the last decade was their apathy to losing. nobody seemed to care, nobody seemed bothered if a star player came into MSG and lit us up, and they didn't mind giving up easy layups and dunks. that was a far cry from the Knicks i grew up watching, and this team seems to have recaptured that fire and toughness that characterized those great teams from the 90s.

You didn't think Eddy Curry was motivated to succeed?

[SlickBri481]

Business as usual tonight. This team handles inferior opponents like it should. 8-1. Would be nice to get the Texas sweep by going into Dallas and Houston and winning (after already beating SA).

[AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite]

Great win tonight... Kidd had one of the sickest steals I've seen in a while... Off night for Novak though. Felton impressed and like a poster said, the Knicks beat up bad teams, as they should...

I'll be at the game tomorrow, hoping for a solid performance...

[SMC]

8-1, 7 double digit wins and toughest schedule in NBA thus far.

Woodson is 26-7 as Knicks HC. Crazy

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by SMC

8-1, 7 double digit wins and toughest schedule in NBA thus far.

Woodson is 26-7 as Knicks HC. Crazy

Woodson has been excellent. Ditto for Grunwald who brought in Woodson as well as Chandler and all of the cheap veteran FAs (Kidd, Sheed, Kurt) who are now a regular part of our rotation.

2nd Best team in the East? I think so and I don't care who disagrees.

[SMC]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Woodson has been excellent. Ditto for Grunwald who brought in Woodson as well as Chandler and all of the cheap veteran FAs (Kidd, Sheed, Kurt) who are now a regular part of our rotation.

2nd Best team in the East? I think so and I don't care who disagrees.

Exactly.

The Heat are clearly the best team in the East and the Knicks the 2nd best IMO. The record and production support that.

For the Knicks, this regular season is all about getting the No. 2 or 3 seed so they only have to face the Heat in the Conference Finals. From there, anything can happen in a 7 game series.

[C Mart]

Felton taken to the woodshed by Williams tonight. Knicks missed Kidd. Felton forgot he is a PG

[Bonhomme Richard]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Felton taken to the woodshed by Williams tonight. Knicks missed Kidd. Felton forgot he is a PG

+1. And when the game is on the line Melo has got to make that shot.

[MCBNY]

N-E-T-S

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yeah.

[LockeJET]

Melo can't have just 1 assist. He has 2 sometimes 3 defenders around him. He must find the open guys and get certain players going each night. Melo is an unreal scorer. He can score from anywhere. But he really lacks what it takes to make everyone better. They don't need 35 from Melo. They need 25 with a handful of assists. That keeps defenses honest.

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Felton taken to the woodshed by Williams tonight. Knicks missed Kidd. Felton forgot he is a PG

Part of the reason I wanted Lin back this season even with the risk of his contract putting us over luxury tax in 2 years. Lin can score. Knicks had no 3rd option outside Melo and Tyson last night.

Kudos to the Nets.

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by LockeJET

Melo can't have just 1 assist. He has 2 sometimes 3 defenders around him. He must find the open guys and get certain players going each night. Melo is an unreal scorer. He can score from anywhere. But he really lacks what it takes to make everyone better. They don't need 35 from Melo. They need 25 with a handful of assists. That keeps defenses honest.

Everyone else besides Tyson Chandler was ice cold yesterday. I agree about Kidd this team needs him come playoff time. He is such a great team player.

I honestly would rather win 45-50 games and have Kidd 100% healthy come playoffs then win 55 games and have Kidd falling apart when the playoffs start. If Kidd's hurt let him sit and maintain health.

[SMC]

If Knicks win Sunday against the Suns, Woodson's record as HC would be 30-10, 18-1 at home. That's crazy.

[SMC]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Everyone else besides Tyson Chandler was ice cold yesterday. I agree about Kidd this team needs him come playoff time. He is such a great team player.

I honestly would rather win 45-50 games and have Kidd 100% healthy come playoffs then win 55 games and have Kidd falling apart when the playoffs start. If Kidd's hurt let him sit and maintain health.

This. The Knicks were missing open shots in Nets game, especially Felton who was absolutely dreadful going 3-19 overall and 1-10 in the 4th & overtime.

Melo wouldve had more assists if Felton and others wouldve hit their open shots. Plus, Melo has done well all season with hockey assists.

[SlickBri481]

Originally Posted by SMC

This. The Knicks were missing open shots in Nets game, especially Felton who was absolutely dreadful going 3-19 overall and 1-10 in the 4th & overtime.

Melo wouldve had more assists if Felton and others wouldve hit their open shots. Plus, Melo has done well all season with hockey assists.

Nets game was a game we should have won easy, but first one without Kidd and really poor outing from Felton. Uncharacteristic. And we still should have won. I'm not that worried about them

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by SlickBri481

Nets game was a game we should have won easy, but first one without Kidd and really poor outing from Felton. Uncharacteristic. And we still should have won. I'm not that worried about them

Hard to be worried about a team that's on its way to 12-4 and 2nd in the eastern conference.