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Snell41 · 11-23-2012, 01:07 AM

Braylon Edwards>Plaxico>Chaz Shilens
Damion Woody>Wayne Hunter>Austin Howard
Bart Scott>aging Bart Scott>aged Bart Scott with a bucket load of guaranteed money
Santonio Holmes>53 mil Santonio Holmes>shoulda been cut 53 mil Santonio Holmes again
Thomas Jones>Ladanian Tomlinson>Shonn Greene
Shonne Greene the backup>Bilal Powell>Joe McKnight
Calvin Pace>old Calvin Pace>older Calvin Pace with guaranteed money

Feel free to add, I'm tired.

Dimitri_0515 · 11-23-2012, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Braylon Edwards>Plaxico>Chaz Shilens
Damion Woody>Wayne Hunter>Austin Howard
Bart Scott>aging Bart Scott>aged Bart Scott with a bucket load of guaranteed money
Santonio Holmes>53 mil Santonio Holmes>shoulda been cut 53 mil Santonio Holmes again
Thomas Jones>Ladanian Tomlinson>Shonn Greene
Shonne Greene the backup>Bilal Powell>Joe McKnight
Calvin Pace>old Calvin Pace>older Calvin Pace with guaranteed money

Feel free to add, I'm tired.

Rookie mistake Mark Sanchez> Rookie mistake Mark Sanchez> Rookie mistake Mark Sanchez> Rookie mistake Mark Sanchez

iahawkeyejet · 11-23-2012, 01:11 AM

Faneca>Slauson

escamoter2 · 11-23-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Braylon Edwards>Plaxico>Chaz Shilens
Damion Woody>Wayne Hunter>Austin Howard
Bart Scott>aging Bart Scott>aged Bart Scott with a bucket load of guaranteed money
Santonio Holmes>53 mil Santonio Holmes>shoulda been cut 53 mil Santonio Holmes again
Thomas Jones>Ladanian Tomlinson>Shonn Greene
Shonne Greene the backup>Bilal Powell>Joe McKnight
Calvin Pace>old Calvin Pace>older Calvin Pace with guaranteed money

Feel free to add, I'm tired.

Cotchery > everybody since

njherdfan · 11-23-2012, 01:12 AM

I'm sure people won't want to hear this, but....
Kerry Rhodes>Dwight Lowery>Eric Smith>Yeremiah Bell (who is better than Smith, but MUCH worse than Rhodes)

Astoria · 11-23-2012, 01:15 AM

Late round draft picks > your failing qb's friends from high school > players that don't even make it past the second round of cuts

DDNYjets · 11-23-2012, 01:18 AM

Fat Rex Ryan in vest > Skinny Rex Ryan in man Spanx

Dimitri_0515 · 11-23-2012, 01:18 AM

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Fat Rex Ryan > Skinny Rex Ryan

End the thread

njherdfan · 11-23-2012, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Astoria

Late round draft picks > your failing qb's friends from high school > players that don't even make it past the second round of cuts

Letting your coach, who has no personnel experience, and no experience on the offensive side of the ball, waste a 5th round pick on a player because you liked how he hit someone once.

jetstream23 · 11-23-2012, 01:21 AM

1. We have Revis. We have Rex. We don't need things like a passrush on D.

2. We have ground and pound. We had ground and pound. We get Sparano and Tebow, we'll have ground and pound again.

3. We have some WRs. It doesn't matter who they are because of the two points above - We have defense, and we have ground and pound.

Snell41 · 11-23-2012, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Fat Rex Ryan in vest > Skinny Rex Ryan in man Spanx

For the win

iahawkeyejet · 11-23-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jetstream23

1. We have Revis. We have Rex. We don't need things like a passrush on D.

2. We have ground and pound. We had ground and pound.We get Sparano and Tebow, we'll have ground and pound again.

3. We have some WRs. It doesn't matter who they are because of the two points above - We have defense, and we have ground and pound.

Best post ever, strictly due to the Cardinals cheerleaders.

First DOWN! · 11-23-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Fat Rex Ryan in vest > Skinny Rex Ryan in man Spanx

Fat content Rex with football on his mind >>> Skinny hungry Rex with food on his mind.

3rd_Times_A_Charm · 11-23-2012, 01:44 AM

Our defense never recovered from the loss of Kerry Rhodes.

Our offense never recovered from the two departures on the offensive line.

Also, the deterioration of the RB and WR spots is obvious.

jetstream23 · 11-23-2012, 01:51 AM

Here's the bottom line....and it doesn't get any more straight forward than this. Three of the most important people in the entire football organization are the GM, the head coach, and the quarterback.

Our GM should be an accountant/Cap guy.

Our HC should be a defensive coordinator.

Our starting QB should be a backup QB.

In other words, at 3 key positions in the football organization we have guys who are in over their heads IMO. They're all close...but just not quite good enough do the exact job they're in the position of doing.

Ciaran · 11-23-2012, 01:56 AM

We traded away draft picks, we signed older players to long deals, and when you do that you give yourself a window to be a contender. Holmes and Revis being out for the year hurts too, even though everyone has injuries in this league and they wouldn't have helped tonight.

Two of our three or four most important core players are Mark Sanchez and David Harris. We expected them to progress; they regressed. Coaching hasn't been great under adversity. There are a ton of reasons why we aren't a good team - and I still don't think we're down there with the worst in the league yet. We've been pretty spoiled, and unless we catch fire with something out of nowhere it will probably have to be a big rebuild.

JetsFanatic · 11-23-2012, 01:57 AM

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Fat Rex Ryan in vest > Skinny Rex Ryan in man Spanx

There may be something to this, Fat Mangini in '06 was more successful then then slimmer Mangini in '07 & '08.

11-23-2012, 01:07 AM	#1
Snell41 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,491	A clinic on how to dismantle a SB contending team Braylon Edwards>Plaxico>Chaz Shilens Damion Woody>Wayne Hunter>Austin Howard Bart Scott>aging Bart Scott>aged Bart Scott with a bucket load of guaranteed money Santonio Holmes>53 mil Santonio Holmes>shoulda been cut 53 mil Santonio Holmes again Thomas Jones>Ladanian Tomlinson>Shonn Greene Shonne Greene the backup>Bilal Powell>Joe McKnight Calvin Pace>old Calvin Pace>older Calvin Pace with guaranteed money Feel free to add, I'm tired.

11-23-2012, 01:21 AM	#10
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,548	1. We have Revis. We have Rex. We don't need things like a passrush on D. 2. We have ground and pound. We had ground and pound. We get Sparano and Tebow, we'll have ground and pound again. 3. We have some WRs. It doesn't matter who they are because of the two points above - We have defense, and we have ground and pound. Last edited by jetstream23; 11-23-2012 at 01:31 AM.

11-23-2012, 01:11 AM	#3
iahawkeyejet On Iowa All League Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,651	Faneca>Slauson

11-23-2012, 01:12 AM	#5
njherdfan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Clark University, by way of West Orange, NJ Posts: 1,735	I'm sure people won't want to hear this, but.... Kerry Rhodes>Dwight Lowery>Eric Smith>Yeremiah Bell (who is better than Smith, but MUCH worse than Rhodes)

11-23-2012, 01:15 AM	#6
Astoria Bababa basketball, gimme gimme gimme the ball because I'm gonna dunk it Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,746	Late round draft picks > your failing qb's friends from high school > players that don't even make it past the second round of cuts

11-23-2012, 01:18 AM	#7
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,215	Fat Rex Ryan in vest > Skinny Rex Ryan in man Spanx

11-23-2012, 01:44 AM	#14
3rd_Times_A_Charm Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 397	Our defense never recovered from the loss of Kerry Rhodes. Our offense never recovered from the two departures on the offensive line. Also, the deterioration of the RB and WR spots is obvious.

11-23-2012, 01:51 AM	#15
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,548	Here's the bottom line....and it doesn't get any more straight forward than this. Three of the most important people in the entire football organization are the GM, the head coach, and the quarterback. Our GM should be an accountant/Cap guy. Our HC should be a defensive coordinator. Our starting QB should be a backup QB. In other words, at 3 key positions in the football organization we have guys who are in over their heads IMO. They're all close...but just not quite good enough do the exact job they're in the position of doing.

11-23-2012, 01:56 AM	#16
Ciaran Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	We traded away draft picks, we signed older players to long deals, and when you do that you give yourself a window to be a contender. Holmes and Revis being out for the year hurts too, even though everyone has injuries in this league and they wouldn't have helped tonight. Two of our three or four most important core players are Mark Sanchez and David Harris. We expected them to progress; they regressed. Coaching hasn't been great under adversity. There are a ton of reasons why we aren't a good team - and I still don't think we're down there with the worst in the league yet. We've been pretty spoiled, and unless we catch fire with something out of nowhere it will probably have to be a big rebuild.