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Guck the Fiants · 11-24-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Pride

No offense (pun intended) but the roster of the '09 and '10 are VASTLY different than the crapfest we currently watched the other night.

The '09 roster had names like

Thomas Jones
Leon Washington
Tony Richardson
Braylon Edwards
Jerricho Cotchery
Brad Smith
Alan Faneca
Damien Woody
Shaun Ellis

Big contributors. Maybe not huge stars, but made significant contributions that, as a whole, made this team better.

The '10 roster had a lot of the key guys from '09 (**T-Rich**, Brad Smith, Braylon, Cotch, Ellis) with some nice additions in Holmes, Cro, LT.

The moment we lost T-Rich was the beginning of losing that locker room, IMO. It can't be underestimated how much the other guys looked up to him. But by '11, we lost (with exception of Holmes, Cro, LT) every other guy I mentioned. I'm probably forgetting others. But who did Tanny and Rex get to fill these shoes? John Conner for T-Rich. Yeah...Conner's no longer on the team. LT and Thomas Jones gone with Greene, Powell and McKnight taking over. Yeah...went from best running game in the league in '09 and nearly the best in '10 to 22nd in '11 and 15th, so far this year. Receivers like Edwards and Cotch, who Sanchez clearly had a rapport with, replaced by Kerley (whom I do like), Stephen "Where's the stick-em" Hill, Gates (reject of the Dolphins). Brad Smith gets replaced with Teblow? That "addition" speaks for itself. Sanchez has done nothing but regress since '10. He is NOT a leader, he's NOT a game changer. Well, not a game changer in OUR favor, anyway.

I think you get the point. Comparing this current team to the teams of '09 and '10 is like comparing Mercury to Jupiter. Yeah, both are planets but that's about where the similarities end. So, seriously, knock it off with the "loyalty" to the teams of '09 and '10. This team if a completely different beast, from top to bottom. Even our special teams are a fking joke and that used to be an automatic solid.

So, to say that the success of the '09 and '10 teams, being that they were Mangini teams, does have some level of credibility. Some. I think the '10 team was more of a Rex/Tanny team. But since then, Rex and Tanny have done next to nothing but downgrade the positions that brought our success. Rex is FAR too loyal and FAR too lenient to be a good head coach. This team is in a tailspin and his personality is the last thing this team needs, right now. This team needs discipline and needs to be held accountable for their actions (or lack of). Rex simply isn't doing that.

Good post.

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Dude, you are so far buried in a hole, that you can barely even see daylight.

Hey, remember your claim about Moore being mauled and moved laterally ?

...

As you can see, Moore basically stands Wilfork up and hold his ground both in regards to foward/back AND laterally as well.

The pictures aren't lying Ray, YOU are.

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I LOVE IT

Frames 1, 2 and 3

Frame 1 (below)

Moore's forward motion is about to be stopped, weight forward, both knees bent forward, leverage forward. This is what Sanchez intially sees.

Frame 2 (below)

Look at Moore's stance, his position, and his legs. Weight is now clearly on his right leg, left knee bent, leverage still forward, entire body leaning forward, but has shifted from left leg to right leg, this is the lateral movement.

Frame 3 (below)

Moore is clearly now pushed back, weight has shifted, Moore is now on his back heels, and moving backwards and latterally..

The pictures say it all, no lies, it's all there!!!

Now...

DDNYjets · 11-24-2012, 04:43 PM

That is more about Sanchez being oblivious than it is about Moore. OL get pushed back all the time. Rarely does a QB run into one that he should have seen from 3-5 yards away.

Sanchez sucks. He will never live that play down. It Is an embarrassment

Jordy · 11-24-2012, 04:46 PM

Ray, forget delusional. You seriously are now bordering on psychotic. Holy crap.

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Ray, forget delusional. You seriously are now bordering on psychotic. Holy crap.

Meh

Lame

Even you can do better than that.

Game over!

Untouchable · 11-24-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

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I LOVE IT

Frames 1, 2 and 3

Frame 1 (below)

Moore's forward motion is about to be stopped, weight forward, both knees bent forward, leverage forward. This is what Sanchez intially sees.

Frame 2 (below)

Look at Moore's stance, his position, and his legs. Weight is now clearly on his right leg, left knee bent, leverage still forward, entire body leaning forward, but has shifted from left leg to right leg, this is the lateral movement.

Frame 3 (below)

Moore is clearly now pushed back, weight has shifted, Moore is now on his back heels, and moving backwards and latterally..

The pictures say it all, no lies, it's all there!!!

Now...

LOL

I seriously think that you're insane.

Untouchable · 11-24-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Ray, forget delusional. You seriously are now bordering on psychotic. Holy crap.

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

LOL

I seriously think that you're insane.

There is nothing insane, it's all in the picture.

It's amazing how the several of you here will outright LIE and IGNORE the evidence and truth JUST to continue this little "let's hate on Ray sharade."

Comical really.

Jordy · 11-24-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Meh

Lame

Even you can do better than that.

Game over!

Okay. delusional AND psychotic. That just about covers it.

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

LOL

I seriously think that you're insane.

And I guess we can add insane to that as well.

Untouchable · 11-24-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

There is nothing insane, it's all in the picture.

It's amazing how the several of you here will outright LIE and IGNORE the evidence and truth JUST to continue this little "let's hate on Ray sharade."

Comical really.

LOL

You're f*cking cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Seriously

Conkboy · 11-24-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

There is nothing insane, it's all in the picture.

It's amazing how the several of you here will outright LIE and IGNORE the evidence and truth JUST to continue this little "let's hate on Ray sharade."

Comical really.

Its 4:55... I am sure they will return you to your padded room at 5pm! Have a nice night!

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

LOL

You're f*cking cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

Seriously

You refuse to acknowledge the evidence only for your own ego and silly little game to go against anything I say, all because I don't agree with you about Sanchez.

Who's the ****ing cuckoo?

SlickBri481 · 11-24-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

That is more about Sanchez being oblivious than it is about Moore. OL get pushed back all the time. Rarely does a QB run into one that he should have seen from 3-5 yards away.

Sanchez sucks. He will never live that play down. It Is an embarrassment

Shhhh Ray is telling us it wasn't his fault. Just like the INT the drive before that. The clever Pats tricked him!

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Conkboy

Its 4:55... I am sure they will return you to your padded room at 5pm! Have a nice night!

Middle school smack. Mommy should print that bad boy out and put it on your fridge...

Nice work, Jr!

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickBri481

Shhhh Ray is telling us it wasn't his fault. Just like the INT the drive before that. The clever Pats tricked him!

Actually, Ray said that the play from the start was very much Sanchez' fault.

But let's not stop that agenda!

Conkboy · 11-24-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Middle school smack. Mommy should print that bad boy out and put it on your fridge...

Nice work, Jr!

You are too funny!!!!

Ray Ray19 · 11-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Conkboy

You are too funny!!!!

I'm a ****ing riot!

Untouchable · 11-24-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Actually, Ray said that the play from the start was very much Sanchez' fault.

But let's not stop that agenda!

No, you've said time after time it was Moore's fault for getting pushed into Sanchez.

You've only said this, oh I don't know, 50 or so times over the course of this thread.

You're seriously daffy.

JetsFanatic · 11-24-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

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I LOVE IT

Frames 1, 2 and 3

Frame 1 (below)

Moore's forward motion is about to be stopped, weight forward, both knees bent forward, leverage forward. This is what Sanchez intially sees.

Frame 2 (below)

Look at Moore's stance, his position, and his legs. Weight is now clearly on his right leg, left knee bent, leverage still forward, entire body leaning forward, but has shifted from left leg to right leg, this is the lateral movement.

Frame 3 (below)

Moore is clearly now pushed back, weight has shifted, Moore is now on his back heels, and moving backwards and latterally..

The pictures say it all, no lies, it's all there!!!

Now...

What is this, the Zapruder film? I subscribe to the magic butt-head theory.

SlickBri481 · 11-24-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Actually, Ray said that the play from the start was very much Sanchez' fault.

But let's not stop that agenda!

How noble of you to admit this, considering Mark himself admitted he forgot the play and that is why it was blown from the start. So gracious of you...

11-24-2012, 04:43 PM	#203
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	That is more about Sanchez being oblivious than it is about Moore. OL get pushed back all the time. Rarely does a QB run into one that he should have seen from 3-5 yards away. Sanchez sucks. He will never live that play down. It Is an embarrassment

11-24-2012, 04:46 PM	#204
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	Ray, forget delusional. You seriously are now bordering on psychotic. Holy crap.