Muhammad Wilkerson deserves the Pro Bowl (if there is one) - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

AFCEastFan · 11-24-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iahawkeyejet

People can say whatever they want about Jets fans building up Jets players into something they aren't, but outside of JJ Watt, you'd be hard pressed to find a 3-4 DE playing better than Wilkerson this year, and a lot of people outside of Jets fans would agree.

Not many teams primarily running the 3-4 that I'm aware of, but you may be right. After Watt, I would say Haloti Ngata and Calais Campbell, but then Wilkinson is right there in the discussion.

10PennyToColes87 · 11-24-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Not many teams primarily running the 3-4 that I'm aware of, but you may be right. After Watt, I would say Haloti Ngata and Calais Campbell, but then Wilkinson is right there in the discussion.

Who's Wilkinson?

AFCEastFan · 11-24-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87

Who's Wilkinson?

iahawkeyejet · 11-24-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Not many teams primarily running the 3-4 that I'm aware of, but you may be right. After Watt, I would say Haloti Ngata and Calais Campbell, but then Wilkinson is right there in the discussion.

I think there are 12 teams currently. Ngata is a DT that lines up all over the DL, so it's hard to pigeon hole him as the same position as Wilkerson. He is obviously better than Mo, but I'd take Wilkerson over Campbell.

cant wait · 11-24-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by iahawkeyejet

I think there are 12 teams currently. Ngata is a DT that lines up all over the DL, so it's hard to pigeon hole him as the same position as Wilkerson. He is obviously better than Mo, but I'd take Wilkerson over Campbell.

wilk lines up as a DT fairly often and even NT at times. comparing ngata to any D-Lineman is pretty unfair though

palmetto defender · 11-25-2012, 09:01 AM

An average JAG. Take a look at the rosters of the 14 AFC teams. He's not even close.
Cromartie is the only Def Pro Bowl potential.

Charlie Brown · 11-25-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetfan16

Great, one player on the Jets team kind of deserves to make the Pro Bowl.

Maybe

Hmmmmmm this.....

It is a disgrace!!!!

DUNCCFP · 11-25-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

No. He is a good player. And he looks really good b.c he is playing alongside JAGs.

Can he get there? Yes. But he is not there yet.

JMHO. I know he grades out very well against the run. But that is only half the battle.

He ranks 10th in rush, 1st in pass coverage and 2nd against the run. 2nd overall.

cant wait · 11-25-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DUNCCFP

He ranks 10th in rush, 1st in pass coverage and 2nd against the run. 2nd overall.

how do they grade those rankings? it seems like it would be hard to quantify individual positional statistics like that from team statistics

DDNYjets · 11-25-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DUNCCFP

He ranks 10th in rush, 1st in pass coverage and 2nd against the run. 2nd overall.

What does pass coverage mean for a 3-4 DE? Seems useless.

10th is pass rush isn't bad. I knew he was good against the run.

Dreamers · 11-25-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SBIII

You dont agree? He's having a great season. He's one of the top players at his position. We really made the right pick with him.

He is good but not Pro Bowl good IMO. At least not yet. Get him an OLB to help him out maybe.

Scoop24 · 11-25-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cant wait

how do they grade those rankings? it seems like it would be hard to quantify individual positional statistics like that from team statistics

PFF has all those stats.. Wilkerson was having a solid season in the beginning year he has flat out been stellar in the past 5 games tho..

SBIII · 12-09-2012, 04:08 PM

oh, and great game by QC

Flaming Mo · 12-09-2012, 04:10 PM

Wilkerson was downright unblockable today. On the drive where he got his sack, he got pressure up the middle on first and second down and hit Henne both times, forcing quicker throws. Then on third down he finished the job!

GREAT game, great player...

DDNYjets · 12-09-2012, 04:12 PM

Great game for Wilk

Great game for Coples.

Woody56 · 12-09-2012, 04:15 PM

Definitely been the 2nd best 3-4 DE in the NFL this year, but its tough for 3-4 DE's to get noticed for stuff like the pro bowl unless your having a year like Watt (probably the best season ever for a 3-4 DE).

Ngata has fallen off big time this year.

Jetworks · 12-09-2012, 04:18 PM

Very good games by Mo and Coples today.

tfine350z · 12-09-2012, 04:49 PM

I thought they were busts????

boxman · 12-09-2012, 05:04 PM

Wilkerson has really come into his own this year. Him and Coples are gonna be good ones here for years to come.

fidelioion · 12-09-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Nobody on our defense gets consistent pressure.

Let me make this clear. I LIKE WILKERSON. I think he is a good player. Just not a Pro Bowler IMO.

Lets let him continue to develop. He has shown ability.

Nobody in the league gets consistent pressure. Doesn't work that way. Need to make a few big plays a week and try and get double teams to help your team.

Wilk has been getting doubled a lot more lately.

11-25-2012, 09:01 AM	#26
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,627	An average JAG. Take a look at the rosters of the 14 AFC teams. He's not even close. Cromartie is the only Def Pro Bowl potential.

12-09-2012, 04:08 PM	#33
SBIII JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the 90's Posts: 28,005	oh, and great game by QC

12-09-2012, 04:10 PM	#34
Flaming Mo All League Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Peter-Ording (Germany) Posts: 4,638	Wilkerson was downright unblockable today. On the drive where he got his sack, he got pressure up the middle on first and second down and hit Henne both times, forcing quicker throws. Then on third down he finished the job! GREAT game, great player...

12-09-2012, 04:12 PM	#35
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,199	Great game for Wilk Great game for Coples.

12-09-2012, 04:15 PM	#36
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,066	Definitely been the 2nd best 3-4 DE in the NFL this year, but its tough for 3-4 DE's to get noticed for stuff like the pro bowl unless your having a year like Watt (probably the best season ever for a 3-4 DE). Ngata has fallen off big time this year.

12-09-2012, 04:18 PM	#37
Jetworks murse in training Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Staten Island Posts: 7,441	Very good games by Mo and Coples today.

12-09-2012, 04:49 PM	#38
tfine350z looking for a new avatar Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,122	I thought they were busts????

12-09-2012, 05:04 PM	#39
boxman GENO! Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 856	Wilkerson has really come into his own this year. Him and Coples are gonna be good ones here for years to come.