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Beerfish · 11-29-2012, 01:24 PM

I was not a big jet fan back then so I don't know the story behind that. What occurred to allow them to get four 1st rounders? (Parcells was in charge of that draft correct?)

Woody56 · 11-29-2012, 01:26 PM

The Keyshawn and Belichick trades

sg3 · 11-29-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

I was not a big jet fan back then so I don't know the story behind that. What occurred to allow them to get four 1st rounders? (Parcells was in charge of that draft correct?)

They got two picks from the Bucs for Keyshawn Johnson and were awarded a first and a third by the NFL for Kraft' s tampering in getting Cheating Bill to steal 1 million dollars of Leon Hess' dollars and violate his written word to become the HC of the NYJ upon Bill Parcells departure

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shuler82 · 11-29-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Woody56

The Keyshawn and Belichick trades

Yep.

We somehow got 2 #1 picks for Keyshawn from Tampa, and the NFL gave us NE's first round pick for Belicheck resigning and taking the Patsie job. I remember at the time really, really hoping that Burress fell to us at #12, but the Steelers grabbed him at #8. Getting Coles in the 3rd made up for that.

DDNYjets · 11-29-2012, 01:42 PM

And we netted 3 very good players. I know people like to trash Penny but I can't fault the guy for his body betraying him. Poor guy's shoulder was cursed. He was never the same after the '03 injury. And Ellis and Abraham were two fine players. Abe is still going strong.

Yankeejet22 · 11-29-2012, 01:45 PM

The Jets were hot for Plax in that draft, but couldn't pass up on Abe and Ellis. He went to the Steelers, so the Jets settled on Pennington at 17.

C Mart · 11-29-2012, 01:49 PM

I believe a few days before the draft Parcells traded a #1 and a #2 to move up to #13 so he could be in position to select Ellis and Abe.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 11-29-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

I was not a big jet fan back then

Dolphins fan?

LockeJET · 11-29-2012, 01:56 PM

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Dolphins fan?

A beer drinking Dolphins fan. Hence his handle Beerfish.

Jets337 · 11-29-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

I was not a big jet fan back then so I don't know the story behind that. What occurred to allow them to get four 1st rounders? (Parcells was in charge of that draft correct?)

Yep we had ours, 2 from Tampa for Keyshawn, and another from New England for Belichik. Abraham, Ellis, Becht and Pennington. We also took Lavernaues Coles in the third round of that draft. Best draft we ever had.

GuidoYaztremski · 11-29-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

They got two picks from the Bucs for Keyshawn Johnson and were awarded a first and a third by the NFL for Kraft' s tampering in getting Cheating Bill to steal 1 million dollars of Leon Hess' dollars and violate his written word to become the HC of the NYJ upon Bill Parcells departure

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Except slick Willy Parcells didn't REALLY leave, now did he?

And in hindsight, seeing what kind of owner Woody has become, BB was a genius for cutting out.

chrisjets23 · 11-29-2012, 02:15 PM

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The Jets were hot for Plax in that draft, but couldn't pass up on Abe and Ellis. He went to the Steelers, so the Jets settled on Pennington at 17.

Yup, and supposedly right after the Jets took Pennington at 17 they called the Steelers and asked if they'd like to swap Plax for Pennington (they liked Pennington a lot before that draft too), but the Steelers said no thanks.

Yankeejet22 · 11-29-2012, 02:30 PM

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Yup, and supposedly right after the Jets took Pennington at 17 they called the Steelers and asked if they'd like to swap Plax for Pennington (they liked Pennington a lot before that draft too), but the Steelers said no thanks.

Yep. They talked, but I remember there were conflicting reports on who called who.

parkwayjet1 · 11-29-2012, 02:54 PM

I believe Chad was the 18th, not the 17th pick, and I do remember the talking heads saying the Jets got great value because they thought Chad should have gone higher. In effect, Pennington fell in the Jets laps at 18 and they couldn't afford not to grab him, even though Vinny T. was entrenched as the starting QB at the time. Taking Becht at 27 was "eh", whaddya gonna do? Just another failed 1st round tight end pick (K. Brady, Mitchell).

Anybody remember the tool at the draft wearing a Jets shirt mouthing "WHO?" when the Jets selected Abraham?

Joe W. Namath · 11-29-2012, 03:01 PM

We got coles in the 3rd round that year as well.

chirorob · 11-29-2012, 03:04 PM

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I believe Chad was the 18th, not the 17th pick, and I do remember the talking heads saying the Jets got great value because they thought Chad should have gone higher. In effect, Pennington fell in the Jets laps at 18 and they couldn't afford not to grab him, even though Vinny T. was entrenched as the starting QB at the time. Taking Becht at 27 was "eh", whaddya gonna do? Just another failed 1st round tight end pick (K. Brady, Mitchell).

Anybody remember the tool at the draft wearing a Jets shirt mouthing "WHO?" when the Jets selected Abraham?

We had no tight end at the time, and i remember a lot of people being mad we didn't take Bubba Franks over Ellis.

poppapump · 11-29-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

Except slick Willy Parcells didn't REALLY leave, now did he?

And in hindsight, seeing what kind of owner Woody has become, BB was a genius for cutting out.

When BB left, it was classic. i will always remember Steve Gutman standing at a podium looking like a train just hit him. One of his quotes was, "what you saw right there is a confused individual". Anyone know where a video of that can be located?

southparkcpa · 11-29-2012, 03:16 PM

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When BB left, it was classic. i will always remember Steve Gutman standing at a podium looking like a train just hit him. One of his quotes was, "what you saw right there is a confused individual". Anyone know where a video of that can be located?

I remember that...a pure deer in the headlights situation.

What gets me...if you read a review of Tom Brady's performance in the cotton bowl, how the fukk did he last to the 6th round????

He backed up Drew Hinson I get it but he clearly was a stud worth a 3rd or so..

PLEASE dont anyone post a pic of him at the combines..we have all seen it.

ucrenegade · 11-29-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

And we netted 3 very good players. I know people like to trash Penny but I can't fault the guy for his body betraying him. Poor guy's shoulder was cursed. He was never the same after the '03 injury. And Ellis and Abraham were two fine players. Abe is still going strong.

If penny could have stayed the same qb he was when he destroyed manning and the colts I was so pumped after that game thinking we finally found a qb then he gets injured and becomes check down chad which I hated

MDL_JET · 11-29-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shuler82

Yep.

We somehow got 2 #1 picks for Keyshawn from Tampa, and the NFL gave us NE's first round pick for Belicheck resigning and taking the Patsie job. I remember at the time really, really hoping that Burress fell to us at #12, but the Steelers grabbed him at #8. Getting Coles in the 3rd made up for that.

Good lord, 2 #1s? And here we are talking about getting a 2 for Revis.

How times have changed.

11-29-2012, 01:24 PM	#1
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,090	How the heck did the Jets four 1st round picks in 2000? I was not a big jet fan back then so I don't know the story behind that. What occurred to allow them to get four 1st rounders? (Parcells was in charge of that draft correct?)

11-29-2012, 01:26 PM	#2
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,068	The Keyshawn and Belichick trades

11-29-2012, 01:42 PM	#5
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,306	And we netted 3 very good players. I know people like to trash Penny but I can't fault the guy for his body betraying him. Poor guy's shoulder was cursed. He was never the same after the '03 injury. And Ellis and Abraham were two fine players. Abe is still going strong.

11-29-2012, 01:45 PM	#6
Yankeejet22 You didn't show them, Mark :( Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern jersey Posts: 2,464	The Jets were hot for Plax in that draft, but couldn't pass up on Abe and Ellis. He went to the Steelers, so the Jets settled on Pennington at 17.

11-29-2012, 01:49 PM	#7
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	I believe a few days before the draft Parcells traded a #1 and a #2 to move up to #13 so he could be in position to select Ellis and Abe.

11-29-2012, 02:54 PM	#14
parkwayjet1 Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Valley Stream, N.Y. Posts: 2,890	I believe Chad was the 18th, not the 17th pick, and I do remember the talking heads saying the Jets got great value because they thought Chad should have gone higher. In effect, Pennington fell in the Jets laps at 18 and they couldn't afford not to grab him, even though Vinny T. was entrenched as the starting QB at the time. Taking Becht at 27 was "eh", whaddya gonna do? Just another failed 1st round tight end pick (K. Brady, Mitchell). Anybody remember the tool at the draft wearing a Jets shirt mouthing "WHO?" when the Jets selected Abraham?

11-29-2012, 03:01 PM	#15
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,829	We got coles in the 3rd round that year as well.