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Old 11-30-2012, 09:35 AM   #1
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Why would any good GM want this job?

Let's assume we fire Tannenbaum. Why would any promising GM candidate choose the Jets over the Chiefs, Chargers, Panthers, etc.?

1) We have a meddlesome owner who likes to have input on the high-profile transactions (or potential transactions) of a team

2) We already have a head coach who I suspect the vast majority of good GM candidates would not want as their HC -- he has lost the team for two years in a row and shows no sign of knowing how to run a team other than by knowing how to run a defense

3) We don't have a franchise quarterback, or even a quarterback of the future.

4) Next year we have 3 players -- David Harris, Sanchez, Holmes -- that are making nearly $40m. These players are basically worth jack ****t. Sanchez if cut adds another $4-5M in dead money, and is not going to help the Jets field an above-average (or average) offense. Holmes is a locker room cancer that no other team wanted at a bargain salary, let alone coming off an injury and making $13M. And Harris is a fine player but drastically overpaid.

5) The team's best player is coming off an ACL injury, has a huge contract, and is likely to show up on the GM's door two seconds after he's hired asking for a new contract.



To recap: the team has no players to build around but a ton of money invested in worthless players, a meddlesome owner, and a coach that's on a career path that crashing planes think looks steep. Oh, and he has to deal with the NY media and the Giants, and the Patriots in the division.

GMs aren't like coaches -- if they fail, they don't become OCs, succeed, and get another crack at a HC job. They basically only get one shot, and GMs by their nature are more cautious and calculating than coaches. So why would a hotshot, rising, up-and-coming GM candidate pick the Jets?

Looking for serious answers here because I don't see any.

[If Woody agrees, I could see the team bringing back Mr. T, Rex and Sanchez, because at least after the season the job is somewhat attractive to potential candidates - he can then pick his HC, cut Sanchez/Holmes at low cost, and truly rebuild.]
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #2
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$$$ money talks bullss**** walks.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #3
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something something new york is the best something something
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:44 AM   #4
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Because any good GM is going to want full control on every decision. Give him that, plus money, plus a NY market and he'll be happy. Tell that GM he has to keep Rex, or has to keep any player as part of the deal and you won't have a good GM. Period.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:52 AM   #5
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Because any good GM is going to want full control on every decision. Give him that, plus money, plus a NY market and he'll be happy. Tell that GM he has to keep Rex, or has to keep any player as part of the deal and you won't have a good GM. Period.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:53 AM   #6
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what GM wouldn't? basically rebuild the own team the way you want it. that's what GMs are supposed to.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:58 AM   #7
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Who knows, Woody might surprise us and can the entire lot of them....

nah this ship will probably continue to sink for another year before he doesn anything.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:59 AM   #8
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Because any good GM is going to want full control on every decision. Give him that, plus money, plus a NY market and he'll be happy. Tell that GM he has to keep Rex, or has to keep any player as part of the deal and you won't have a good GM. Period.
Right on cue

I would wager that The New York Market has turned away more quality candidates than it has actually hired
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:15 AM   #9
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There are only 32 jobs in this league to be a GM.
If your a candidate & your passion is football you take a GM job when it becomes available because it doesn't happen often.
Pretty simple
To be good at something failure is not an option, success is the goal. The position wouldn't be open unless there was a lot of work ahead.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:19 AM   #10
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The only way I can see the current coaches stick around would be if Tebow was going to be handed the reins for next year.

Woody could tell them all they have one last shot but build an offense around tebow.

If thats not the plan, all these guys are toast. you cant sell the fanbase on Rex/Sanchez again. Nobody would watch go to the games.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:20 AM   #11
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Because any good GM is going to want full control on every decision. Give him that, plus money, plus a NY market and he'll be happy. Tell that GM he has to keep Rex, or has to keep any player as part of the deal and you won't have a good GM. Period.
That post is dead on, especially the bolded part.

Any new GM would want full autonomy with no meddling from Woody.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:41 AM   #12
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There are only 32 jobs in this league to be a GM.
If your a candidate & your passion is football you take a GM job when it becomes available because it doesn't happen often.
Pretty simple
To be good at something failure is not an option, success is the goal. The position wouldn't be open unless there was a lot of work ahead.
Why do you think DeCosta is taking his time in Baltimore? People watch these situations closely from afar, and I think the Jets job is the least desirable out there due to Woody, Sanchez, Holmes, lack of a high pick.

You go to KC you get the #1 pick

In Jacksonville you have a ton of cap space and a high pick

In Carolina you have Newton and a high pick

What is the draw of the Jets job? To deal with Tone time and Revis' contract demands while figuring out wtf to do with Sanchez?
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:44 AM   #13
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what GM wouldn't? basically rebuild the own team the way you want it. that's what GMs are supposed to.
A GM that thinks the owner is too involved and where the HC is a doofus.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:51 AM   #14
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That post is dead on, especially the bolded part.
Not necessarily. Phil Emroy has done a nice job in Chi his 1st year and was saddled with Lovie.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:02 AM   #15
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Because any good GM is going to want full control on every decision. Give him that, plus money, plus a NY market and he'll be happy. Tell that GM he has to keep Rex, or has to keep any player as part of the deal and you won't have a good GM. Period.
Absolutely correct. Throw in the worst QB situation in the league and salary cap hell, and it will be a very hard sell.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:13 AM   #16
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The only way I can see the current coaches stick around would be if Tebow was going to be handed the reins for next year.

Woody could tell them all they have one last shot but build an offense around tebow.

If thats not the plan, all these guys are toast. you cant sell the fanbase on Rex/Sanchez again. Nobody would watch go to the games.
Go watch collage football if that's the kind of BS your into.
How about clean house and build a real NFL team.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:22 AM   #17
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Why would any GM not want this job? Assuming the owner lets him do his job, why not?

Team is a mess, has a losing history, and is the NY market place. If you can turn around this team, you are GOLD forever. The GM that turned around the Jets and got them to their first SB in 45 years?

Where would you rather try to turn around a team, Cleveland? Jacksonville? No, if a GM thinks he is up to it, he should want NY
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:27 AM   #18
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That post is dead on, especially the bolded part.

Any new GM would want full autonomy with no meddling from Woody.
+1

Can you imagine going down in history as the GM that brought the Jets a SB Title?
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:41 AM   #19
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The premise of this thread is kindof silly... It's like asking - who would want to be CEO of <insert fortune 100 company>? The answer is - friggin everyone.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:43 AM   #20
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+1

Can you imagine going down in history as the GM that brought the Jets a SB Title?
Exactly, if your a GM, you go in and turn a team completely around.

Can you imagine the legacy of some guy coming to the Jets, turn things around and get a Super Bowl title?
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