UNDERRATED MUSICIANS - Page 9 - Jets Insider.com Forums

jetlifer · 11-30-2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

Even Gilmour would tell you it's Jeff Beck.

I concur...Beck is simply an amazing guitarist. Incredibly nuanced playing like no other.

AFCEastFan · 11-30-2012, 09:55 AM

Hard to imagine that a group of Zappa alums could be underrated, but these guys qualify, I think. Having only heard their commercial successes like "Words" and "Destination Unknown" in the 80's, I was blown away when I stumbled across this song last year. The musicianship is truly outstanding (particularly from Terry Bozzio on drums and Warren Cuccurullo on guitar) and the song is ahead of its time for 1983:

FF2® · 11-30-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

How do you figure Chicago is an underrated band? Back in the 70s, they were huge.

FTR, hated them almost as much as Steely Dan. Decent musicians, but sappy songs and sound. Enough with the f**king horn solos.

Chicago Transit Authority!!!!

You had to catch them BEFORE the sappy **** started.

Check out early stuff.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetlifer

I concur...Beck is simply an amazing guitarist. Incredibly nuanced playing like no other.

I mentioned them earlier in the thread. If you have not seen the Ronnie Scott live shows, go immediately to YouTube. Beck is playing on another level entirely.

jetlifer · 11-30-2012, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

I mentioned them earlier in the thread. If you have not seen the Ronnie Scott live shows, go immediately to YouTube. Beck is playing on another level entirely.

oh I've seen it may times...and have it as a YouTube fav on my iPad. Just otherworldly playing.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF2®

Chicago Transit Authority!!!!

You had to catch them BEFORE the sappy **** started.

Check out early stuff.

I know. During that period, most of my pals loved CTA. Much consternation on my part.

I'll give you that CTA was miles better than "Chicago", especially with Peter Cetera. For some reason, their sound just never clicked with me. As much as I appreciate the late Terry Kath's talent, his tone and soling style grated on me. Personal taste, that's all. "Bobby" Lamm, though? Meat cleavers for him.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Hard to imagine that a group of Zappa alums could be underrated, but these guys qualify, I think. Having only heard their commercial successes like "Words" and "Destination Unknown" in the 80's, I was blown away when I stumbled across this song last year. The musicianship is truly outstanding (particularly from Terry Bozzio on drums and Warren Cuccurullo on guitar) and the song is ahead of its time for 1983:

Beast.

FF2® · 11-30-2012, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

I know. During that period, most of my pals loved CTA. Much consternation on my part.

I'll give you that CTA was miles better than "Chicago", especially with Peter Cetera. For some reason, their sound just never clicked with me. As much as I appreciate the late Terry Kath's talent, his tone and soling style grated on me. Personal taste, that's all. "Bobby" Lamm, though? Meat cleavers for him.

Hey us nerdy trombone players had to have something!

I'll spare you the Maynard Ferguson and Chuck Mangione clips.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF2®

Hey us nerdy trombone players had to have something!

I'll spare you the Maynard Ferguson and Chuck Mangione clips.

LOL. Still have the Jimmy Pankow poster up on the wall.

Maynard is one of my jazz trumpet heros (For me, Mangione was more jazz/pop.) . Probably the first musician from that genre that I recall playing in that insanely fast tempo and register. Generally, I don't dig horns in rock.

Ruby2 · 11-30-2012, 10:22 AM

I am really digging Kathleen Edwards lately....Canada puts out some great artists.

jackhuntr · 11-30-2012, 10:37 AM

a couple of my favorites from the 70's

Timmy® · 11-30-2012, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 32green

and I dont even own a TV.

that works

Warfish · 11-30-2012, 11:00 AM

Sam Beam, i.e. Iron & Wine, remains my #1. If he was in the 60's, he have been a better Dylan.

It's hard tho, because so many of my personal favorites are clearly and stringly infuenced by what came before, so the old "if they were in that era" doesn't really work.

Black Mountain is another, they are VERY 1970's Sabbath/Floyd Hybrid, and if they existed in that era, they'd have been massive beyond belief IMO. Today, they get to play clubs and sell a few tens of thousands only, and are a fringe cult-fav band.

Point is there is ALOT of VERY underrated music about today, but few if anyone knows about it because we're in a post-rock era where pop and black-culture music like rap and R&B are the big big deals. The only rock that gets attention is the laughably bad Nu-Metal Influenced mainstream crap, and even that doesn't get much attention.

WestCoastOffensive · 11-30-2012, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Hard to imagine that a group of Zappa alums could be underrated, but these guys qualify, I think. Having only heard their commercial successes like "Words" and "Destination Unknown" in the 80's, I was blown away when I stumbled across this song last year. The musicianship is truly outstanding (particularly from Terry Bozzio on drums and Warren Cuccurullo on guitar) and the song is ahead of its time for 1983:

Oh man as a senior in high school I formed a Zappa posse for those Halloween (Palladium, not MTV!

) shows; Chester Thompson moved from the mothers to touring with Collins; Ralph humphries stayed in LA...my step brother and I were telling anyone interested "You HAVE to see the new drummer - FZ only needs one of this guy! what an animal...yada yada yada..." and I saw Missing Persons in 80-82 My Fathers Place.

ayway, imoThe "fusion" of power pop/punk and top flight musos NEVER delivered. Talking Heads were killing everybody back then; PIL...hip hop muscled in and it was over for the virtuosos.

WestCoastOffensive · 11-30-2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

How do you figure Chicago is an underrated band? Back in the 70s, they were huge.

FTR, hated them almost as much as Steely Dan. Decent musicians, but sappy songs and sound. Enough with the f**king horn solos.

Man, you need to shut up.

southparkcpa · 11-30-2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

LOL. Still have the Jimmy Pankow poster up on the wall.

Maynard is one of my jazz trumpet heros (For me, Mangione was more jazz/pop.) . Probably the first musician from that genre that I recall playing in that insanely fast tempo and register. Generally, I don't dig horns in rock.

I actually got to play with a few guys from Maynards band back in the 80s.

My favorite trupitista is Miles Davis although Dizzy is considered technically better.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive

Man, you need to shut up.

Oh, okay. Bad horn solos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by southparkcpa

I actually got to play with a few guys from Maynards band back in the 80s.

My favorite trupitista is Miles Davis although Dizzy is considered technically better.

Wow, what was that like?

PlumberKhan · 11-30-2012, 11:45 AM

Maynard James Keenan.

Borgoguy · 11-30-2012, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlumberKhan

Maynard James Keenan.

Perfect Circle should have been HUGE. Great addition to the thread with Maynard, PK.

nyahay bus · 11-30-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageATL

Ryan Adams. Dude is ridiculous. He is so prolific, he has tons of unreleased music and entire shelved albums. His demos are better than 90% of "finished" music today:

yes.

11-30-2012, 09:55 AM	#162
AFCEastFan Money now -- and a lot more when I get into that office. You can take that to the bank. All League Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,027	Hard to imagine that a group of Zappa alums could be underrated, but these guys qualify, I think. Having only heard their commercial successes like "Words" and "Destination Unknown" in the 80's, I was blown away when I stumbled across this song last year. The musicianship is truly outstanding (particularly from Terry Bozzio on drums and Warren Cuccurullo on guitar) and the song is ahead of its time for 1983:

11-30-2012, 10:22 AM	#170
Ruby2 Patron and Grapefruit Juice Bitchess!!! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Jerseystrong Posts: 17,025	I am really digging Kathleen Edwards lately....Canada puts out some great artists.

11-30-2012, 10:37 AM	#171
jackhuntr I got a do-over Waterboy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: gainesville ga Posts: 36	a couple of my favorites from the 70's

11-30-2012, 11:00 AM	#173
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Sam Beam, i.e. Iron & Wine, remains my #1. If he was in the 60's, he have been a better Dylan. It's hard tho, because so many of my personal favorites are clearly and stringly infuenced by what came before, so the old "if they were in that era" doesn't really work. Black Mountain is another, they are VERY 1970's Sabbath/Floyd Hybrid, and if they existed in that era, they'd have been massive beyond belief IMO. Today, they get to play clubs and sell a few tens of thousands only, and are a fringe cult-fav band. Point is there is ALOT of VERY underrated music about today, but few if anyone knows about it because we're in a post-rock era where pop and black-culture music like rap and R&B are the big big deals. The only rock that gets attention is the laughably bad Nu-Metal Influenced mainstream crap, and even that doesn't get much attention.

11-30-2012, 11:45 AM	#178
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,013	Maynard James Keenan.