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Jetdawgg · 12-03-2012, 11:52 AM

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

fidelioion · 12-03-2012, 11:54 AM

And with the 4 teams remaining, we're almost certainly going to move up.

JetsCrazey · 12-03-2012, 12:02 PM

means very little. this defense can beat up on lesser opponents all they want but they are not elite and nowhere near the defenses of SF, Houston, Pittsburgh, etc

PatsFanTX · 12-03-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

means very little. this defense can beat up on lesser opponents all they want but they are not elite and nowhere near the defenses of SF, Houston, Pittsburgh, etc

Total yardage means crap.

Jets defense is ranked #22 in points allowed.

Hardly a top 10 NFL defense.

fidelioion · 12-03-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

means very little. this defense can beat up on lesser opponents all they want but they are not elite and nowhere near the defenses of SF, Houston, Pittsburgh, etc

No question, you can call it what you want, rank it where you want...

but looking at the eye test of this defense, they're not very good.

thshadow · 12-03-2012, 12:09 PM

The Jets D almost never gives up long drives!!

Because with Sanchez as the QB, the other team is typically starting on the Jets side of the field...

Buzzsaw · 12-03-2012, 12:11 PM

The defense has been a huge disappointment. I think someone posted that Aldon Smith has more sacks than our entire team? Yeah, some "top-10" defense we've got here.

sec.101row23 · 12-03-2012, 12:14 PM

I think Rex thinks if he has a top 5 defense it somehow validates him as a coach. He references HIS defenses ranking way more than any other head coach I can remember. The team is 5-7, THAT is the only statistic he should worry about.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 12-03-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Total yardage means crap.

Jets defense is ranked #22 in points allowed.

Hardly a top 10 NFL defense.

Factor in how many of those points were allowed on a short field and recalibrate...

DDNYjets · 12-03-2012, 12:19 PM

I don't think anybody cares about the defense any more. We all know it is a fraud.

There are about 5 good defenses in the league and then the next 15 you can lump together.

Flaming Mo · 12-03-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Total yardage means crap.

Jets defense is ranked #22 in points allowed.

Hardly a top 10 NFL defense.

That includes special teams and points given up by the offense aswell. Not that don't agree with you, the key is to keep opponents out of the endzone.

Apache 51 · 12-03-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

Factor in how many of those points were allowed on a short field and recalibrate...

And after they held for 3 quarters and said phukit

Dimitri_0515 · 12-03-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Total yardage means crap.

Jets defense is ranked #22 in points allowed.

Hardly a top 10 NFL defense.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

Factor in how many of those points were allowed on a short field and recalibrate...

Who do I believe on this?

southside · 12-03-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaming Mo

That includes special teams and points given up by the offense aswell. Not that don't agree with you, the key is to keep opponents out of the endzone.

+1

Mark has thrown and fumbled away a lot of TDs this year.

You can't take one statistic and point to it like it means we are the 10th best OVERALL defense. No way.

Do the eye test. They don't stack up that well.

PatsFanTX · 12-03-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

Factor in how many of those points were allowed on a short field and recalibrate...

Good/great defenses tighten up when the field is short.

Force a turnover, create a 3 and out, give up FG's instead of TD's.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 12-03-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Good/great defenses tighten up when the field is short.

Force a turnover, create a 3 and out, give up FG's instead of TD's.

You're implying the Pats have a great D then?

PatsFanTX · 12-03-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

You're implying the Pats have a great D then?

Not it all, but certainly improved from a year ago.

Pats defense is the 2nd youngest in the NFL and lead the league in forced turnovers.

sg3 · 12-03-2012, 01:10 PM

A pat chowd turd arguing about defense

Oh the ironing

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southside · 12-03-2012, 01:14 PM

I don't think this is the year to mock the Pats defense.... not only are they better than the Jets but they are leading the league in takeaways.

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-03-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Total yardage means crap.

Jets defense is ranked #22 in points allowed.

Hardly a top 10 NFL defense.

Agreed. The proper yardstick for measuring a D is scoring. I believe the NFL is the only sport where D is evaluated on something other than the amount of points the other team puts on the board. I'll take the #1 scoring D every day of the week. In fact, I think the best D should be ranked based on Points Allowed by the D Minus Points Scored by the D.

BTW, if the Jets #22 ranking includes special team and scores by the opposing D, it's an invalid ranking, IMO.

12-03-2012, 11:52 AM	#1
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,688	Number 10 NFL D http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

12-03-2012, 11:54 AM	#2
fidelioion alright Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,493	And with the 4 teams remaining, we're almost certainly going to move up.

12-03-2012, 12:02 PM	#3
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,665	means very little. this defense can beat up on lesser opponents all they want but they are not elite and nowhere near the defenses of SF, Houston, Pittsburgh, etc

12-03-2012, 12:09 PM	#6
thshadow No more expectations Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,279	The Jets D almost never gives up long drives!! Because with Sanchez as the QB, the other team is typically starting on the Jets side of the field...

12-03-2012, 12:11 PM	#7
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,305	The defense has been a huge disappointment. I think someone posted that Aldon Smith has more sacks than our entire team? Yeah, some "top-10" defense we've got here.

12-03-2012, 12:14 PM	#8
sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,847	I think Rex thinks if he has a top 5 defense it somehow validates him as a coach. He references HIS defenses ranking way more than any other head coach I can remember. The team is 5-7, THAT is the only statistic he should worry about.

12-03-2012, 12:19 PM	#10
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	I don't think anybody cares about the defense any more. We all know it is a fraud. There are about 5 good defenses in the league and then the next 15 you can lump together.

12-03-2012, 01:10 PM	#18
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,401	A pat chowd turd arguing about defense Oh the ironing Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

12-03-2012, 01:14 PM	#19
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,892	I don't think this is the year to mock the Pats defense.... not only are they better than the Jets but they are leading the league in takeaways.