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InRex_WeTrust · 12-03-2012, 05:33 PM

Chargers are imploding and will want a fresh start. I know how bad Rivers has looked lately, but it wasn't so long ago that he nearly won an AFC Championship game on one leg. He is a gamer, and with D'Brick protecting his blindside instead of the revolving door of tackles in San Diego, he can get back to pro-bowl form.

Imagine how much better Keller, Holmes, Kerley, and Hill could be with an accurate QB throwing them the ball. People will say he won't be able to handle the NY spotlight, but I don't buy it. He can thrive here with better protection and Rex shouldering the media assault.

Draft a speed back to compliment Greene, fresh lineman, and fast linebackers. Not a cap guru here, but this Franchise can't go through another rookie qb. Rivers can be a stud. This is the kind of move at QB that the Jets need to make. MCelroy has post-injury Chad arm strength and is not the answer under any circumstance, we've been through that circus before.

DDNYjets · 12-03-2012, 05:37 PM

We have less playmakers here than in SD. Rivers would be miserable.

There is no quick fix. We are in for a rebuild. Hopefully they hit some HRs in the draft like '06 and '07 to speed the process up.

southside · 12-03-2012, 05:38 PM

No. Trading draft picks is a bad idea.

Rivers is a loser anyway.

MDL_JET · 12-03-2012, 05:39 PM

What does trading Rivers do for the Chargers? It's not like they're in place to draft a great prospect coming out next year. Let Whitehurst take over?

Don't see how it makes any sense of them.

InRex_WeTrust · 12-03-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

We have less playmakers here than in SD. Rivers would be miserable.

There is no quick fix. We are in for a rebuild. Hopefully they hit some HRs in the draft like '06 and '07 to speed the process up.

You underrate the Jets skill players when fully healthy. No one remembers how big of a weapon Keller was when he had a proven Vet Favre throwing to him. Holmes can get back into Pittsburgh form. Kerley will be a stud slot receiver, look at how well he has played this year with garbage at qb. If Hill can improve only half as much as D Thomas from Denver did that is an above average group of receivers that is easily on par with what Rivers has this season. If they can hit a home run on a RB to throw in the mix than even better. And Our O-line is much better than SD's which can be even more important than who the receivers are.

fidelioion · 12-03-2012, 05:44 PM

I would do it...

Rivers is a legit Franchise QB going through a bad year.

I can't imagine SD would make that trade though.

southside · 12-03-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by InRex_WeTrust

You underrate the Jets skill players when fully healthy. No one remembers how big of a weapon Keller was when he had a proven Vet Favre throwing to him. Holmes can get back into Pittsburgh form. Kerley will be a stud slot receiver, look at how well he has played this year with garbage at qb. If Hill can improve only half as much as D Thomas from Denver did that is an above average group of receivers that is easily on par with what Rivers has this season. If they can hit a home run on a RB to throw in the mix than even better. And Our O-line is much better than SD's which can be even more important than who the receivers are.

This is because he never was one, even with Brett.

Magnus · 12-03-2012, 05:47 PM

I would make that trade in a heart beat. Rex with a proven vet at QB would be amazing to watch. No more inexperienced pieces of **** please.

NYJ37/12 · 12-03-2012, 05:48 PM

Bad idea

Borgoguy · 12-03-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by southside

No. Trading draft picks is a bad idea.

Rivers is a loser anyway.

+1 I don't want the dunce. His best days are behind him.

sg3 · 12-03-2012, 05:50 PM

Please God NO

Watched most of his effort Sunday late on the Red Zone...

Could have easily been Phillip Sanchez but with a sidearm shot put hurling delivery and a slower release

What's next??? Bring in Matt Cassel threads?

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InRex_WeTrust · 12-03-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MDL_JET

What does trading Rivers do for the Chargers? It's not like they're in place to draft a great prospect coming out next year. Let Whitehurst take over?

Don't see how it makes any sense of them.

The Chargers are in for a full rebuild. With our 1st rounder and their own they can have their choice of a new QB to reboot with

SlickBri481 · 12-03-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MDL_JET

What does trading Rivers do for the Chargers? It's not like they're in place to draft a great prospect coming out next year. Let Whitehurst take over?

Don't see how it makes any sense of them.

Exactly. As much as he's struggled, I can't see them giving up on him and starting anew. They'll want to see how he does with the stench of Norv gone from the team. If he struggled again next year under a new head coach, then maybe they look to move him.

InRex_WeTrust · 12-03-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by southside

This is because he never was one, even with Brett.

This is just flat out wrong

sg3 · 12-03-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

Bad idea

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+1 I don't want the dunce. His best days are behind him.

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tfine350z · 12-03-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by InRex_WeTrust

You underrate the Jets skill players when fully healthy. No one remembers how big of a weapon Keller was when he had a proven Vet Favre throwing to him. Holmes can get back into Pittsburgh form. Kerley will be a stud slot receiver, look at how well he has played this year with garbage at qb. If Hill can improve only half as much as D Thomas from Denver did that is an above average group of receivers that is easily on par with what Rivers has this season. If they can hit a home run on a RB to throw in the mix than even better. And Our O-line is much better than SD's which can be even more important than who the receivers are.

You are correct about Keller and Kerley. However we don't have enough receiving threats to open things up for them...Holmes can be single covered so can Hill at this point. You need a playmaker that commands double coverage ALA Braylon Edwards that will open things up for EVERYONE....right now Keller is being double covered because we have noone that can take pressure off if him..

PMarsico9 · 12-03-2012, 05:59 PM

Considering it's not possible due to this thing called the salary cap.

By the way, Dustin Keller won't and should not be back next year.

Sanchez is essentially untradeable. Meaning you are looking between him and Rivers at, what, 20-30% of the cap tied up in Corner and QB?

NO.

InRex_WeTrust · 12-03-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

Please God NO

Watched most of his effort Sunday late on the Red Zone...

Could have easily been Phillip Sanchez but with a sidearm shot put hurling delivery and a slower release

What's next??? Bring in Matt Cassel threads?

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Rivers is light years beyond Cassel. Behind the Jets line he can return to pro-bowl form.

southside · 12-03-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InRex_WeTrust

This is just flat out wrong

Catches/Yards/TDs

2008: 48/535/3
2009: 45/522/2
2010: 55/687/5
2011: 65/815/5
2012: 28/317/2

How is this a weapon? Outside of last season, his best ever, he had less than 1000 yards and only 5 TDs. Not a weapon. Keep in mind he was also targeted 116 times.

Borgoguy · 12-03-2012, 06:01 PM

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sg3, I still think we could be friends. Although we are not warring, per se, I extend to you the olive branch of peace and friendship.

12-03-2012, 05:33 PM	#1
InRex_WeTrust Waterboy Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 41	Trade a 1st Rounder for Rivers Chargers are imploding and will want a fresh start. I know how bad Rivers has looked lately, but it wasn't so long ago that he nearly won an AFC Championship game on one leg. He is a gamer, and with D'Brick protecting his blindside instead of the revolving door of tackles in San Diego, he can get back to pro-bowl form. Imagine how much better Keller, Holmes, Kerley, and Hill could be with an accurate QB throwing them the ball. People will say he won't be able to handle the NY spotlight, but I don't buy it. He can thrive here with better protection and Rex shouldering the media assault. Draft a speed back to compliment Greene, fresh lineman, and fast linebackers. Not a cap guru here, but this Franchise can't go through another rookie qb. Rivers can be a stud. This is the kind of move at QB that the Jets need to make. MCelroy has post-injury Chad arm strength and is not the answer under any circumstance, we've been through that circus before.

12-03-2012, 05:37 PM	#2
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,235	We have less playmakers here than in SD. Rivers would be miserable. There is no quick fix. We are in for a rebuild. Hopefully they hit some HRs in the draft like '06 and '07 to speed the process up.

12-03-2012, 05:38 PM	#3
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,884	No. Trading draft picks is a bad idea. Rivers is a loser anyway.

12-03-2012, 05:39 PM	#4
MDL_JET All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,633	What does trading Rivers do for the Chargers? It's not like they're in place to draft a great prospect coming out next year. Let Whitehurst take over? Don't see how it makes any sense of them.

12-03-2012, 05:44 PM	#6
fidelioion alright Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,493	I would do it... Rivers is a legit Franchise QB going through a bad year. I can't imagine SD would make that trade though.

12-03-2012, 05:47 PM	#8
Magnus Veteran Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,740	I would make that trade in a heart beat. Rex with a proven vet at QB would be amazing to watch. No more inexperienced pieces of **** please.

12-03-2012, 05:48 PM	#9
NYJ37/12 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,636	Bad idea

12-03-2012, 05:50 PM	#11
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,360	Please God NO Watched most of his effort Sunday late on the Red Zone... Could have easily been Phillip Sanchez but with a sidearm shot put hurling delivery and a slower release What's next??? Bring in Matt Cassel threads? Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

12-03-2012, 05:59 PM	#17
PMarsico9 This pit has no bottom All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,851	Considering it's not possible due to this thing called the salary cap. By the way, Dustin Keller won't and should not be back next year. Sanchez is essentially untradeable. Meaning you are looking between him and Rivers at, what, 20-30% of the cap tied up in Corner and QB? NO.