Only Good HC Jets have had since Walt Michaels was Parcells

[wepnx]

Originally Posted by w0mbat

Pretty much. People are pissed and they just want to guillotine everybody. Rex talks too much and has his flaws but people who want to run him out of town are nuts.

Give him a QB, tell him to stop talking so much, and get a new GM to handle personnel and the Jets will be more than fine with Rex as coach.

I think what scares everybody are the blow out losses. The way they lost the AFCCG the last time too. The first time was a disaster. We saw the start of the Sanchez sack fumble routine. For a defensive genius this doesn't make sense.

[LadainianIMnotDONE]

Originally Posted by Greentide

Rex, like his father should've stayed a defensive coach. Equally sad IMO I don't think the Jets have ever had a good GM or owner. Hence the B.S. with this team is the never ending story. The occassional flash just to give us fans false hope before it all comes tumbling down.

Parcells got to the same place Rex did ... Rex did it with a much less talented team and did it twice in a row. You're on crack ... Lets not forget Parcells bounced on the sinking ship and never put it back in order. It took us a while to recover .... Rex isn't going to leave like Parcells did when things got bad if Rex leaves its not by choice he's not a quitter. Give me a break ....

[LadainianIMnotDONE]

Originally Posted by wepnx

I think what scares everybody are the blow out losses. The way they lost the AFCCG the last time too. The first time was a disaster. We saw the start of the Sanchez sack fumble routine. For a defensive genius this doesn't make sense.

Bellichick is a defensive genius and a lot of what he does doesn't make sense ... smh you guys view everything one sided.

[Rich Caster]

Originally Posted by wepnx

I think what scares everybody are the blow out losses. The way they lost the AFCCG the last time too. The first time was a disaster. We saw the start of the Sanchez sack fumble routine. For a defensive genius this doesn't make sense.

What evidence do we have that Rex is a genius? He is a very good defensive coach, but what has he done to demand the title of genius?

[Sourceworx]

[QUOTE=w0mbat;4714583Rex isn't without his faults but the main culprit of this mess is Tannenbaum.[/QUOTE]

Yes and no.

Tanny is known to value the input of his coaches (as he should). He has the final say, but his head coach has a much bigger influence than we all probably think.

In Tanny's first three years (with Mangini as the coach), he improved the roster greatly. He had two good drafts ('06 was arguably a great one). He made some excellent trades (Jenkins, and Thomas Jones).

Since Rex came in the talent has slowly gone downhill. The team has drafted poorly, and doled out some terrible contracts. He made two good trades (Cromartie and Braylon), but also some bad ones (Holmes). Then he compounded the Holmes move by giving him a bad contract.

So basically:

2006-2008: Very good, to excellent personnel management.
2009-2010: Poor personnel and cap management

Tanny is the common denominator for both time spans. The head coaches were different. Therefore it can be argued that Rex is just as much, if not more, to blame for mismanaging the personnel.

[wepnx]

Well he says he is.... Getting where he has gotten this defense without a dynamic pass rusher is nothing short of a miracle. A QB and pass rusher is something he hasn't had here. I would have loved to see what a healthy Farve could have done here in 09.

[Greentide]

Originally Posted by LadainianIMnotDONE

Parcells got to the same place Rex did ... Rex did it with a much less talented team and did it twice in a row. You're on crack ... Lets not forget Parcells bounced on the sinking ship and never put it back in order. It took us a while to recover .... Rex isn't going to leave like Parcells did when things got bad if Rex leaves its not by choice he's not a quitter. Give me a break ....

Not on crack. Let's not forget Parcells inherited a 1-15 team and had them 9-7 and a hair width away from a playoff appearance the very next season. Then continued to improve the teams record year 2 making the finals , and year 3 had Jets as odds on favorite for at least a SB appearance until Vinnie ruptured the achilles at the start of Parcells 3rd season. Rex inherited a much better team and rode them till it all fell apart around him as he's basically clueless as a HC.

[Greentide]

Originally Posted by Led Halen

The Jets have not had a good HC since Parcells huh? So the years since Parcells have been the most prolonged success the team has ever had. So with only bad coaches in that time frame, one can assume the Jets were supremely talented and won in spite of these terrible coaches? If this is true, the GMs that built those teams must be very good right? But by your opinion, they're all incompetent? Try not to contradict yourself the next time you decide to whine just for the sake of whining.

Parcells turned things around, not the asshats who've followed. "Prolonged success"? By that you refer to 2 consecutive playoff appearances? That's not prolonged success, that's a notch up from mediocre. Prolonged success would refer to the Pats current run, the Steelers through most of their previous 20 years, Ravens over most of their history, the 49er's in the 80's, Green Bay during the majority of past dozen or so seasons etc.

[Long Suffering Jets Fan]

Originally Posted by southparkcpa

I think many here see it. Some don't.


Working for Woody is partially a puppeteer show.

Actually Tanenbaum got us out of that situation and with Mangini was able to assemble a decent team. Poor drafting and poor investments in players (Holmes) have hurt us since then.

[Long Suffering Jets Fan]

Originally Posted by chirorob

Don't knock it, it worked.

The Giants weren't exactly stellar in the regular seasons of their last two Super Bowl seasons. Actually I recall quite a bit of talk regarding Coughlin being fired at the end of both of those years. Now the guys a friggen hero.

[Long Suffering Jets Fan]

Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

This is beyond confusing...So Mangini was controlling the roster then while now, Tannenbaum has more of a say with Rex? Comical.


And the fact that Rex got to 2 AFC championship games with Sanchez at QB is plenty of evidence that the guy is a very good coach.

Hell, he made it further than Parcells did and Parcells had a better roster.

Uhh, no. He inherited Kotites 1 and 15 team and got them to 9 and 7 in his first year.