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southside · 12-06-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

This is the same guy that has his Defense dive at linemen's knees in victory formation situations. **** that guy.

+1

This is all for show. They are making it "appear" that they are considering every possible way to protect the health of the players. It's a recommendation and there's no way in hell it would pass.

At the end of the day, these guys are football players. They sign the waivers. They know the risks. This is to help make the NFL look good when that class action lawsuit by former players is ruled in favor of the players so the NFL wont be hit with a 2 billion dollar bill.

Chupa · 12-06-2012, 11:57 AM

Other than the fact that its different, whats so bad about it?

petejet · 12-06-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chupa

Other than the fact that its different, whats so bad about it?

It takes away from the excitement of football? A KO return for a TD is just as exciting as a bomb or long run.

southside · 12-06-2012, 12:05 PM

Let's not give the NFL too much credit. These guys don't care about the players. Be realistic here.

In my opinion [CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT] the NFL is trying to do anything it can to eliminate injuries because it's throwing their advertising marketing out of whack. The injuries make the game length unpredictable which is a monetary concern. At the end of the day, the NFL likes to know exactly what it has so they can sell the advertising appropriately. When there are game interruptions and injuries it makes the product unappealing to the fan and the corporations but it also is a huge loss of money as well. And before you ask, no I really don't believe any of this sh!t I just typed. This is really all about the lawsuits they are facing that could cost them billions of dollars in medical bills and quality of life settlements.

palmetto defender · 12-06-2012, 12:15 PM

Goodell doesn't have a thing to say about the rules. He can not change anything. This would be put on an agenda (perhaps) and go to the competition committee and then go to a vote of the owners. It would need a 3/4 vote to pass. If 75% of the owners want it, then THEY changed things, not Goodell.
The concussion thing is real though. Some rules changes are necessary. Start with better helmets. Another $250 per helmet would be a start.
Plus hit with your helmet or to a helmet - expulsion ($50,000 fine) + one game suspension w/o pay. Controlled from the booth and with replay.

BamaJets · 12-06-2012, 01:16 PM

How XFLish of Goodell and Schiano

Chupa · 12-06-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petejet

It takes away from the excitement of football? A KO return for a TD is just as exciting as a bomb or long run.

How is it more exciting than a punt return for a TD? Whats more exciting? An onsides kick or a 4th down conversion? Excitement is probably the worst argument to be made against the proposal.

124 · 12-06-2012, 01:21 PM

I hate Roger Goodell.

RussianGreen · 12-06-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by patman

onsite kicks are recovered at a 26% rate, I believe 4thd and 15s will be converted less than that. Plus the opposing team will get the ball on the 30 which is practically field goal range. A failed onsite kick the opposition usually gets it around midfield. This makes the downside even greater.

"Suprise" onsite kickoffs recovered at high percent rate (over 50%) and thus screwing overall rate. Rate for "last minute" kickoffs is much lower.

Nike · 12-06-2012, 07:13 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...9047--nfl.html

JumbalayaJet · 12-06-2012, 07:43 PM

Schiano came up with this. Makes the game safer. Can make better use of roster. I for one wouldn't miss it.

IHATEDOLPHINS · 12-06-2012, 07:50 PM

Old Rog continues to ruin the game.

I say in 5 years.Kickoff's gone.3 point stance gone.Illegal to hit receivers over the middle.Scores will be 55-50.

At least I have baseball.Will start watching more NBA as well.

jetman67 · 12-06-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JumbalayaJet

Schiano came up with this. Makes the game safer. Can make better use of roster. I for one wouldn't miss it.

That would be changing the sport entirely. Special teams has been a part of the game since it was created.

Vin · 12-06-2012, 08:54 PM

I can imagine what Westhoff's reaction to this would be.....

Greg Schiano? F' HIM!!!

Dimitri_0515 · 12-06-2012, 08:56 PM

I'll stop watching football. That's a guarantee. Fukc Goodell.

Nike · 12-06-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

I'll stop watching football. That's a guarantee. Fukc Goodell.

i doubt it.

Dimitri_0515 · 12-06-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

i doubt it.

You doubt what?

Nike · 12-06-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

You doubt what?

that you'll stop watching football.

Dimitri_0515 · 12-06-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nike

that you'll stop watching football.

OOooook. Thanks for telling me what I will and won't do GMC.

Nike · 12-06-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

OOooook. Thanks for telling me what I will and won't do GMC.

noooooo im not him sorry to disappoint.

12-06-2012, 07:13 PM	#30
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	nfl to eliminate kickoffs? http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...9047--nfl.html

12-06-2012, 11:57 AM	#22
Chupa All League Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,282	Other than the fact that its different, whats so bad about it?

12-06-2012, 12:05 PM	#24
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,938	Let's not give the NFL too much credit. These guys don't care about the players. Be realistic here. In my opinion [CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT] the NFL is trying to do anything it can to eliminate injuries because it's throwing their advertising marketing out of whack. The injuries make the game length unpredictable which is a monetary concern. At the end of the day, the NFL likes to know exactly what it has so they can sell the advertising appropriately. When there are game interruptions and injuries it makes the product unappealing to the fan and the corporations but it also is a huge loss of money as well. And before you ask, no I really don't believe any of this sh!t I just typed. This is really all about the lawsuits they are facing that could cost them billions of dollars in medical bills and quality of life settlements.

12-06-2012, 12:15 PM	#25
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,850	Goodell doesn't have a thing to say about the rules. He can not change anything. This would be put on an agenda (perhaps) and go to the competition committee and then go to a vote of the owners. It would need a 3/4 vote to pass. If 75% of the owners want it, then THEY changed things, not Goodell. The concussion thing is real though. Some rules changes are necessary. Start with better helmets. Another $250 per helmet would be a start. Plus hit with your helmet or to a helmet - expulsion ($50,000 fine) + one game suspension w/o pay. Controlled from the booth and with replay.

12-06-2012, 01:16 PM	#26
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	How XFLish of Goodell and Schiano

12-06-2012, 01:21 PM	#28
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,998	I hate Roger Goodell.

12-06-2012, 07:43 PM	#31
JumbalayaJet done with NMS Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 14,885	Schiano came up with this. Makes the game safer. Can make better use of roster. I for one wouldn't miss it.

12-06-2012, 07:50 PM	#32
IHATEDOLPHINS growing tired of rex ryan All League Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,028	Old Rog continues to ruin the game. I say in 5 years.Kickoff's gone.3 point stance gone.Illegal to hit receivers over the middle.Scores will be 55-50. At least I have baseball.Will start watching more NBA as well.

12-06-2012, 08:54 PM	#34
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,174	I can imagine what Westhoff's reaction to this would be..... Greg Schiano? F' HIM!!!

12-06-2012, 08:56 PM	#35
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	I'll stop watching football. That's a guarantee. Fukc Goodell.