Per PFT : Rex likely staying and Tanny gets reassigned...

[fusion]

for me the problem with Rex is not if he is a good coach or not
its not even about the record, i understand sometimes you got bad years.

the problem is with a coach who was about to start week 1 of the NFL with Hunter as is RT
with this a weak recivers corps
with the same aging LB's
with no ability to pass rush
with the same running backs

all this problems were here the year before, how as a coach Rex didnt come after the season to the GM and owner and told them i cant win with this gruop, we need to make big changes, but none of it was done


so we keep on hearing how eric smith is so important,how sanchez give us the best chance to win...

rex is just a boy who dont have the balls to stand up to his GM or owner, even if he would get fired for it, some coaches did it before,the pats coach did it to the jets, you got to have a backbone and stand for what you believe.

how did he approve the Tebow trade? we know Rex thinks tebow sucks, he should put his foot down and tell woody, you want tebow? thats fine, but you will have to fire me.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Not sure why you are posting that. I know what he does. Or should I say what he is supposed to do.

Are you disputing my point that the only reason why he has a job is b.c he suggested that we should move up for Revis. That or he has dirt on Woody.

So you are saying the reason Bradway is here is because of the Revis scouting trip?

[Snell41]

I mean seriously, so many Rex supporters listing all the flaws and how we need a GM to make him feel like he's in charge, keep a reign on him in press conferences, take away his personnel decisions, take away his input on his coaching staff.....

Here's a grand idea since we're talking about demotions, demote Rex to DC where he belongs.

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by C Mart

So you are saying the reason Bradway is here is because of the Revis scouting trip?

Or dirt on Woody.

I give Mangini the credit and blame for the 2006-2008 drafts.

Seriously, I have no idea why this guy has a job. Our personnel sucks and he is the Senior Personnel Executive. Even though I do think it is just a title and Rex is our real Senior Personnel Executive.

[auctionking]

Originally Posted by Conkboy

Problem is that typically, a new GM will want to pick his own coach and not inherit one. Does you pool of quality candidates go down if you tell them that Rex has to stay?

Plus Rex will want to draft more defense in the 1st rd of the draft

[King P]

Originally Posted by Snell41

Here's a grand idea since we're talking about demotions, demote Rex to DC where he belongs.

That is a terrible terrible terrible idea.

I don't wanna see Rex get demoted to DC, and there's no way he'd let that happen anyway.

[pcola]

Based on all of the information that has been leaked over the past few weeks, when you look at the Jets cap situation after this season compared with the cap situation after the 2013 season, i think its easy to decipher what is going to happen.

The Jets will promote Cohen to GM and demote Tanny, similar to what happened to Bradway. Woody is probably looking at his obligation to Tanny, Rex, and to a further extent Sanchez and Holmes.

We are really limited to the amount of changes we can make next year. If Rex and Sanchez survive next season, than its anybody's guess. But if they fail to make the playoffs again in 2013, Woody blows it up.

You can't recruit the best GM candidates and therefore coaches when you have an albatross with Sanchez, Holmes, and the cap holding the team from making any moves.

But, the Jets, after the 2013 season, with no ties to an overpaid, under talented QB, and a ton of cap space to work with, might just be very attractive.

As far as Cohen is concerned, I would watch all of his moves and judge for myself whether he motivation is 2013 team at the detriment of 2014 and beyond, then he would have to go too. If he makes moves in the Best interest of the Jets LONG TERM, then he can be "re-assigned" too.

[Down, Set, Haiku]

Originally Posted by Snell41

I mean seriously, so many Rex supporters listing all the flaws and how we need a GM to make him feel like he's in charge, keep a reign on him in press conferences, take away his personnel decisions, take away his input on his coaching staff.....

Here's a grand idea since we're talking about demotions, demote Rex to DC where he belongs.

+1
It's perplexing man. A man with so many obvious faults that should never be associated with a good HC, yet so many want him back here as HC???

This some illogical ish, man.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

This means we will have demoted our last 2 GMs. This is f#cking embarrassing. Fire these guys. Their stench hangs around the organization when they are still here.

We need new blood in here. I want tanny, rex, bradway gone. All of them....gone.

What successful franchise demotes GMs?

[Snell41]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

We get it guy, nothing the Jets do is wrong in your eyes. You were great as the Iraqi Defense Minister as well.

[Snell41]

Originally Posted by King P

That is a terrible terrible terrible idea.

I don't wanna see Rex get demoted to DC, and there's no way he'd let that happen anyway.

I don't either, I just think it's ridiculous that so many people want to make a ton of concessions to cover up his flaws. He needs to go along with Tanny. the guy is a great DC andf a terrible terrible terrible coach.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Or dirt on Woody.

I give Mangini the credit and blame for the 2006-2008 drafts.

Seriously, I have no idea why this guy has a job. Our personnel sucks and he is the Senior Personnel Executive. Even though I do think it is just a title and Rex is our real Senior Personnel Executive.

Reread his bio. He lead the drafts during the Mangini yrs and will be doing so again now that Clinkscales left.

[Jet Nut]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Parcells would never work with Rex.

Never.

Ever.

Guess you've never heard Parcells talk about Rex.

Or realize that they talk often.

But hey, you know it all.

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Reread his bio. He lead the drafts during the Mangini yrs and will be doing so again now that Clinkscales left.

I know what the bio says. Which is why I made sure to note that I give Mangini the credit in spite of Bradway supposedly "leading" the draft.

Here is my theory. For some reason he was not fired when Tanny was made the GM. Probably bc they wanted to keep the training wheels on Tanny and have Bradway nurse him. That led to "power vaccuum" in personnel b.c neither guy had the full faith and confidence of the organization. That "power vaccuum" allowed for the HC to have more say than normal b.c neither Tanny or Bradway had a lot of currency as GMs with Bradway recently demoted and Tanny with little to no background in personnel.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

I know what the bio says. Which is why I made sure to note that I give Mangini the credit in spite of Bradway supposedly "leading" the draft.

Here is my theory. For some reason he was not fired when Mangini was made the GM. Probably bc they wanted to keep the training wheels on Tanny and have Bradway nurse him. That led to "power vaccuum" in personnel b.c neither guy had the full faith and confidence of the organization. That "power vaccuum" allowed for the HC to have more say than normal b.c neither Tanny or Bradway had a lot of currency as GMs with Bradway recently demoted and Tanny with little to no background in personnel.

Bradways strength has always been scouting. It's what he also likes to do. Came thru the Giants org as a scout.

[samoljets]

Rex deserves the axe. His drafts have been terrible. A fb? John Conner? Stupid! No ability o evaluate talent!

[NY's stepchild]

Originally Posted by Down, Set, Haiku

Do you really want that quality in your HEAD COACH???

Okay then we'll just grab one of the other brilliant coaches out there. Seriously Jet fans are delusional. The league is full of teams that suck year after year. We sucked for a long long time. We've have one of the best records in the NFL the last 3 years despite all the flaws, the QB, and no pass rushers. It's seriously unbelievable how Jet fans love to hate on everything about our team, and think that every other team is so much better. You guys must not watch a lot of other teams play. Almost any GM would would kill to have Rex as a Defensive coordinator, and to do that you probably have to call him your head coach. Sorry if I don't want to go back to sucking on both sides of the ball. I'd like to find a way to improve the offense, the character and the personnel of the team, whilst keeping the the only defense that turns QBs like Brady, and Peyton into mere humans.

[King P]

Originally Posted by Snell41

I don't either, I just think it's ridiculous that so many people want to make a ton of concessions to cover up his flaws. He needs to go along with Tanny. the guy is a great DC andf a terrible terrible terrible coach.

Oh ok, gotcha.

I just wasnt sure if you were serious. Alot of fans have been saying that he should get demoted to DC, and I just cringe at the thought of it.

[NY's stepchild]

Originally Posted by samoljets

Rex deserves the axe. His drafts have been terrible. A fb? John Conner? Stupid! No ability o evaluate talent!

Yeah and my postman needs to go because I've been getting some really bad mail lately.

[Snell41]

Originally Posted by King P

Oh ok, gotcha.

I just wasnt sure if you were serious. Alot of fans have been saying that he should get demoted to DC, and I just cringe at the thought of it.

Yup, terrible idea. Just like demoting the GM is a terrible idea.