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Shore towns near showdown with dune-building foes
http://www.northjersey.com/news/Shor...ding_foes.html
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The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus.
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Apparently Long beach Long Island voters turned down the Army Corp. of Engineers plan to do the same thing 6 years ago...for the same aesthetic reasons.
Cant say I blame them, as one could have never imagined this storm. The choice is clear, now. And anyone building the same sort of structures to replace the ones lost are fools. Its time to re-think shore line architecture and infrastructure here in oh-12. - |
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REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK
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Adjacent communities such as Lido Beach, Point Lookout and Atlantic Beach did approve the project and were apparently far less devastated by Sandy then was Long Beach Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2 |
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This problem will ultimately be solved by the course of nature.
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No dunes, no more insurance and no sympathy.
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The tide will rise and fall regardless of private or public ownership. Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 12-06-2012 at 04:21 AM. |
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we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a
good buzz on
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The Corp of Engineers doesn't need to go down the Eminent Domain path. New Jersey doesn't have Allodial Title. They can do what they want to the shore.
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we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a
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Using the power the govt. has without issuing Allodial Titles, the govt. can alter the land without your permission and without forcing you off of it. Eminent Domain simply doesn't even need to come into play. Two different concepts. Much of the consternation involving Hydro-Fracking involves this very issue. With the horizontal drilling technology, energy companies can, might, and (more importantly) will, eventually drill under other peoples land. Residents are understandably opposed. Eminent Domain is the taking of land. Allodial Title refers to the fact that you simply rent what you've been conditioned to think you "own". |
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Sounds like typical Govt. thinking.
The solution to all problems is more Government, and less individual rights, in this case to own property. If the landowner does not agree, take it anyway. The basis? If somethign bad happens, the very same Govt. has chosen to bail out those impacted. Create a problem via Government, taxpayers paying for recovery of property in "bad" places instead of insurance companies and private responsabillity. Answer this manufactured problem via Government, by taking the land away from the owner and use the previous bailouts and cost as the cause. How about "if you own a House/property, you better insure it. If you don't, we (the people) will not be bailing you out if a storm/flood/godzilla hits you. And if you don't, and it stays a wreck, THEN we'll have Government do something to you for not living up to your property owner responsabillities.". |
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Solution: insurance companies refuse any coverage unless appropriate measures are taken to maintain the safety of the properties.
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