I found this surprising about our running backs...

[jxc]

...the Jets are ranked 12th in rushing yards per game. I figure with all the blame they get they'd at least be in the bottom 5:

Rk 	Team 	  		G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Att 	Att/G 	Yds 	Avg 	Yds/G 	TD 	Lng 	1st 	1st% 	20+ 	40+ 	FUM
1 	Washington Redskins 	12 	26 	312 	379 	31.6 	2,006 	5.3 	167.2 	13 	76T 	105 	27.7 	13 	2 	11
2 	San Francisco 49ers 	12 	24.1 	289 	369 	30.8 	1,945 	5.3 	162.1 	13 	50 	102 	27.6 	14 	1 	5
3 	Minnesota Vikings 	12 	21.8 	262 	336 	28.0 	1,859 	5.5 	154.9 	10 	82T 	76 	22.6 	21 	5 	9
4 	Buffalo Bills 	 	12 	23.1 	277 	342 	28.5 	1,775 	5.2 	147.9 	9 	56T 	82 	24.0 	14 	4 	5
5 	Kansas City Chiefs 	12 	15.7 	188 	392 	32.7 	1,760 	4.5 	146.7 	7 	91T 	93 	23.7 	8 	3 	10
6 	Houston Texans 	 	12 	29.2 	351 	413 	34.4 	1,710 	4.1 	142.5 	16 	81T 	95 	23.0 	10 	2 	4
7 	Seattle Seahawks 	12 	20.2 	242 	393 	32.8 	1,696 	4.3 	141.3 	6 	77T 	88 	22.4 	5 	1 	6
8 	New England Patriots 	12 	35.8 	430 	401 	33.4 	1,689 	4.2 	140.8 	19 	47 	116 	28.9 	10 	2 	4
9 	Philadelphia Eagles 	12 	18.1 	217 	329 	27.4 	1,603 	4.9 	133.6 	8 	65T 	90 	27.4 	14 	2 	16
10 	Chicago Bears 	 	12 	24.5 	294 	361 	30.1 	1,473 	4.1 	122.8 	9 	46T 	74 	20.5 	8 	2 	3
11 	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 	12 	27.8 	333 	316 	26.3 	1,410 	4.5 	117.5 	11 	70T 	68 	21.5 	10 	4 	2
12 	New York Jets 	 	12 	19 	228 	363 	30.2 	1,382 	3.8 	115.2 	8 	61 	69 	19.0 	4 	1 	6

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by jxc

...the Jets are ranked 12th in rushing yards per game. I figure with all the blame they get they'd at least be in the bottom 5:

Rk 	Team 	  		G 	Pts/G 	TotPts 	Att 	Att/G 	Yds 	Avg 	Yds/G 	TD 	Lng 	1st 	1st% 	20+ 	40+ 	FUM
1 	Washington Redskins 	12 	26 	312 	379 	31.6 	2,006 	5.3 	167.2 	13 	76T 	105 	27.7 	13 	2 	11
2 	San Francisco 49ers 	12 	24.1 	289 	369 	30.8 	1,945 	5.3 	162.1 	13 	50 	102 	27.6 	14 	1 	5
3 	Minnesota Vikings 	12 	21.8 	262 	336 	28.0 	1,859 	5.5 	154.9 	10 	82T 	76 	22.6 	21 	5 	9
4 	Buffalo Bills 	 	12 	23.1 	277 	342 	28.5 	1,775 	5.2 	147.9 	9 	56T 	82 	24.0 	14 	4 	5
5 	Kansas City Chiefs 	12 	15.7 	188 	392 	32.7 	1,760 	4.5 	146.7 	7 	91T 	93 	23.7 	8 	3 	10
6 	Houston Texans 	 	12 	29.2 	351 	413 	34.4 	1,710 	4.1 	142.5 	16 	81T 	95 	23.0 	10 	2 	4
7 	Seattle Seahawks 	12 	20.2 	242 	393 	32.8 	1,696 	4.3 	141.3 	6 	77T 	88 	22.4 	5 	1 	6
8 	New England Patriots 	12 	35.8 	430 	401 	33.4 	1,689 	4.2 	140.8 	19 	47 	116 	28.9 	10 	2 	4
9 	Philadelphia Eagles 	12 	18.1 	217 	329 	27.4 	1,603 	4.9 	133.6 	8 	65T 	90 	27.4 	14 	2 	16
10 	Chicago Bears 	 	12 	24.5 	294 	361 	30.1 	1,473 	4.1 	122.8 	9 	46T 	74 	20.5 	8 	2 	3
11 	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 	12 	27.8 	333 	316 	26.3 	1,410 	4.5 	117.5 	11 	70T 	68 	21.5 	10 	4 	2
12 	New York Jets 	 	12 	19 	228 	363 	30.2 	1,382 	3.8 	115.2 	8 	61 	69 	19.0 	4 	1 	6

Our Defense is ranked 10th currently (based on yards). Although much lower in points allowed.

Our Running Game is ranked 12th.

Our QB is ranked 32, and #1 overall in total turnovers and (I believe) points scored by opponents off his turnovers (i.e. pick 6's and assfumble 6's).

I like to wonder how effective our D and RB would be with an average, 15th ranked, 15th in turnovers, QB.

[shuler82]

well....

they're the only team in the top 12 that averages less than 4.1 a carry (3.8)

and considering it's pass happy league, you have to figure their 363 attempts, which is the 7th highest in the top 12, is probably also the 7th highest in the league. If you have the 7th most rushing attempts in the the NFL, you better be borderline top 5 in yardage.

[sec.101row23]

Considering it is a passing league and the Jets were supposed to be a ground and pound team, a 3.8 YPC average is pretty bad.

[revischrist]

Yards per game is fairly irrelevant. You have to look at yards per carry and that is where we are 5th worst, only ahead of teams that have lost their starting RBs for parts of the year like the Jags, Cards and Cowboys.

[Apache 51]

Why are they rushing and moving the chains, or fumbling along the way, are they rushing for 6 points the only thing that matters on O, is first downs and touchdowns.

[Monsterxman]

Originally Posted by revischrist

Yards per game is fairly irrelevant. You have to look at yards per carry and that is where we are 5th worst, only ahead of teams that have lost their starting RBs for parts of the year like the Jags, Cards and Cowboys.

Sanchez has been figured out. Stop the run, and "force him to do something he's not comfortable doing, throwing the ball".

Believe it was Ray Lewis who said this.

No doubt he's a large factor in the poor running game. The Jets O-line isn't bad contrary to what is said around here.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

Considering it is a passing league and the Jets were supposed to be a ground and pound team, a 3.8 YPC average is pretty bad.

Same as it was in 1998 and I don't remember anyone complaining then??

[jxc]

Originally Posted by revischrist

Yards per game is fairly irrelevant. You have to look at yards per carry and that is where we are 5th worst, only ahead of teams that have lost their starting RBs for parts of the year like the Jags, Cards and Cowboys.

What are you basing this on?
I count 6 other teams averaging 3.8 yards a carry including slouches like Denver and Atlanta and 3 other teams under 3.8.

[Scoop24]

I don't need stats . I see enough on Sundays to know our rbs are jags at best

[shuler82]

Originally Posted by Savage69

Same as it was in 1998 and I don't remember anyone complaining then??

nice Martin dig, but the Jets weren't considered ground and pound in 1998.

[WestCoastOffensive]

Earlier in the year, when all the knee-jerk Fantasy GM's wanted to deal Shonn Greene for some magic beans, I said that our 3 backs would end up as one of the better groups by season's end.

[Jets Things]

Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive

Earlier in the year, when all the knee-jerk Fantasy GM's wanted to deal Shonn Greene for some magic beans, I said that our 3 backs would end up as one of the better groups by season's end.

[Savage69]

Originally Posted by shuler82

nice Martin dig, but the Jets weren't considered ground and pound in 1998.

So stating the truth is a dig?? What's a fact is if Saint Cumar ran for 3.5 it was a good year if any other Jet RB does it he's crap..

[Demosthenes9]

Originally Posted by jxc

What are you basing this on?
I count 6 other teams averaging 3.8 yards a carry including slouches like Denver and Atlanta and 3 other teams under 3.8.

It's because of ties. If you count from the bottom, we are tied with 7 other teams for 4th worst YPC in the nfl

Team	                Avg
Minnesota Vikings	5.5
Washington Redskins	5.3
San Francisco 49ers	5.3
Buffalo Bills	        5.2
Philadelphia Eagles	4.9
Tennessee Titans	4.7
Kansas City Chiefs	4.5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	4.5
New York Giants	        4.4
Seattle Seahawks	4.3
St. Louis Rams	        4.3
New England Patriots	4.2
Cincinnati Bengals	4.2
Carolina Panthers	4.2
Detroit Lions	        4.2
New Orleans Saints	4.2
Houston Texans	        4.1
Chicago Bears	        4.1
Baltimore Ravens	4.1
Miami Dolphins	        3.9
Indianapolis Colts	3.9
Green Bay Packers	3.9
New York Jets	        3.8
Denver Broncos	        3.8
Pittsburgh Steelers	3.8
Cleveland Browns	3.8
San Diego Chargers	3.8
Atlanta Falcons	        3.8
Oakland Raiders	        3.8
Dallas Cowboys	        3.6
Arizona Cardinals	3.6
Jacksonville Jaguars	3.5

[Demosthenes9]

rushing yards per game is a horribly misleading stat as all you have to do really is run the ball more often than the other teams. Hell, you could lead the league by a wide margin while gaining 2.5 yards per carry if you run it often enough.

[McGinley]

Just wondering if it was me or not, but has anyone noticed that Greene and Powell have been getting some pretty decent-good yardage? Idk, it seems like I see them getting 4 or so yards more often in the latest weeks.

[Flaming Mo]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Just wondering if it was me or not, but has anyone noticed that Greene and Powell have been getting some pretty decent-good yardage? Idk, it seems like I see them getting 4 or so yards more often in the latest weeks.

The line has definitely moved people of the ball in recent weeks. Even at the beginning of the Pats they had a bunch of good runs. But it seems like everything is a little too late.

[patman]

I was surprised at the effectiveness on the ground against the Pats.

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Just wondering if it was me or not, but has anyone noticed that Greene and Powell have been getting some pretty decent-good yardage? Idk, it seems like I see them getting 4 or so yards more often in the latest weeks.

They have stayed healthy this year and are playing as a unit. Howard is now used to playing, remember he was named starter very late in pre-season and did not get a lot of work with the starters.