Did anyone else realize we've got a Top 10 (8th) Defense this year? - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

jetsfan1983 · 12-10-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

As mentioned above, not top-10 in points, and our stats have been padded from the past two weeks against AZ and Jax.

Yes, and none of those other top 5 defenses ever play against poor offenses.

Great logic...

Henne sucks because the Jets stopped him yet he scores TD after TD against Houston.

Same garbage I had to hear after Luck did **** against us too.

The numbers are the numbers... We're always top 10 on D with Rex here and always will be. Yet people always try to make excuses for it.

JetsCrazey · 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM

the run D is awful. Pouha and Devito have been major disappointments this year. Mo Wilk is carrying the load.

PatsFanTX · 12-10-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Team is 19th in points allowed though..

Points allowed and forced turnovers means nothing.

It's all about yardage when evaluating a defense.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-10-2012, 02:39 PM

even when talking about the D, sanchez comes up in the convo

NYJ37/12 · 12-10-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

lol @ trying to use the thanksgiving game as a negative for the D. ST, Intchez and the offense were why we lost that ****.

Maybe if our Failchez and the offense was worth a dick then our D wouldn't constantly be on the field and tired. When they're constantly on the field, the Offense is going to score.

I think the 82 yard swing pass that the guy went untouched started the 21 points in 52 second thing.

joiseyjet · 12-10-2012, 02:42 PM

we were A top 5 defense last year as I recall ,so we aren`t getting better!

SAR I · 12-10-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mc College Kid

Did anyone else realize we've got a Top 10 (8th) Defense this year?

No.

Because we can see we suck.

SAR I

SlickBri481 · 12-10-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

the run D is awful. Pouha and Devito have been major disappointments this year. Mo Wilk is carrying the load.

The run D has been really puzzling. Had Jax committed more to the run yesterday we probably lose that game. Not good when Montell Owens, an undrafted scrub, is gashing you up the middle. We need to address that this offseason.

DDNYjets · 12-10-2012, 02:46 PM

I don't get caught up in defensive rankings. Especially yardage. Because if you were going to judge defense by yardage, the Jags had a better defense than us yesterday. So theres that.

Our Defense has not been good this year. There are no great defenses, there are a handful of good defenses and then you can bunch the next 15 or so together.

jetster · 12-10-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

The only D stats that really matter are points and turnovers.

While that's the only stat that matters, the idea that the Patriots are 2nd in the league in takeaways is completely skewed by the fact that their offense leads the league in scoring.
Defenses can take more chances with large leads.
Do we ever have a large lead?

Warfish · 12-10-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley

I was just looking at some team stats and rankings on ESPN and we're ranked 8th. 3rd in Passing D, 28th in Rushing D, and 8th in Total D.

Da fuq? Seems so odd for some reason.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...sition/defense
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...sition/defense
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...sition/defense

Conversely, we're ranked 30th in Total Offense, 30th in Passing Offense, and 11th in Rushing Offense. We're only ahead of Arizona and Jacksonville in Total Offense.

Damn, it's a good thing we have Murk Sanchurz to save us from our 8th ranked D and 11th ranked running game.

By the end of the season, we'll have both a top 10 Defense and a top 10 Rushing offense.

Many Fans will say it doesn't count, because we played easy teams at the end.

Sanchez will be the lowest ranked QB in the NFL, with the most turnovers of any QB in the NFL.

Many Fans will say that doesn't count, because Sanchez had nothing to work with.

And the beat rolls on.

Bench Sanchez.

jetsfan1983 · 12-10-2012, 02:49 PM

Amazing how things change... We are a laughing stock yet we are probably going to finish 8-8...

And now people want to get rid of Rex even though the guy has never had a losing season with this team, and made it to two AFC championship games despite having a bottom 5 QB.

PMarsico9 · 12-10-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

No.

Because we can see we suck.

SAR I

Don't worry, SAR, Sanchez is still developing.........

Top 10 D.

7 games against teams over .500 allowing 29 points per game against those teams.

2nd season in a row without a quality win. 2009 and 2010 teams beat the Pats once in the regular season.

It's fun to twist numbers when the entire last, what, 5 or 6 games of your schedule involve the raw sewerage of the NFL, eh?

Woody takes everybody with optimism to the bank, sodomizes you and cashes in with your MAC card.

auctionking · 12-10-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

Yes, and none of those other top 5 defenses ever play against poor offenses.

Great logic...

Henne sucks because the Jets stopped him yet he scores TD after TD against Houston.

Same garbage I had to hear after Luck did **** against us too.

The numbers are the numbers... We're always top 10 on D with Rex here and always will be. Yet people always try to make excuses for it.

Lets see where we are at the end of the season,I think we will end up around 13

Warfish · 12-10-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

Amazing how things change... We are a laughing stock yet we are probably going to finish 8-8...

And now people want to get rid of Rex even though the guy has never had a losing season with this team, and made it to two AFC championship games despite having a bottom 5 QB.

People want to get rid of Rex because he didn't dress the #3 QB.

Thats all that bnees said tbqh.

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-10-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jetster

While that's the only stat that matters, the idea that the Patriots are 2nd in the league in takeaways is completely skewed by the fact that their offense leads the league in scoring.
Defenses can take more chances with large leads.
Do we ever have a large lead?

That's the genius of Rex, why design an offense capable of building a large lead? That's for the other guys. Give me bumbling incompetence every day of the week.

SAR I · 12-10-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PMarsico9

Don't worry, SAR, Sanchez is still developing.........

Top 10 D.

7 games against teams over .500 allowing 29 points per game against those teams.

It's fun to twist numbers when the entire last, what, 5 or 6 games of your schedule involve the raw sewerage of the NFL, eh?

Woody takes everybody with optimism to the bank, sodomizes you and cashes in with your MAC card.

All joking and stat-twisting aside, we all can see we suck in all phases of the game. We're 1-11 against teams that end their seasons with winning records since 2010. Not time for a parade methinks.

SAR I

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-10-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

All joking and stat-twisting aside, we all can see we suck in all phases of the game. We're 1-11 against teams that end their seasons with winning records since 2010. Not time for a parade methinks.

SAR I

exactly

SAR I · 12-10-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

People want to get rid of Rex because he didn't dress the #3 QB.

People want to get rid of Rex because he's a lousy head coach. Well, the smart people at least.

SAR I

Warfish · 12-10-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SAR I

People want to get rid of Rex because he's a lousy head coach. Well, the smart people at least.

SAR I

If I am dumb for wanting to keep a 4-year Head Coach who has yet to have a losing season and puts up consistent top 10 Defenses and runnign games, so be it.

There is only one head I want on a pike this coming offseason, and I know I'm not getting it, so

Rabble-rabble on, Sanchez is innocent, it's all that Fat Rex fellow over there!

12-10-2012, 02:37 PM	#22
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,665	the run D is awful. Pouha and Devito have been major disappointments this year. Mo Wilk is carrying the load.

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JetsfanfromtheBURGH Pirates win 88 games this year. Mark it! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,144	even when talking about the D, sanchez comes up in the convo

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joiseyjet Hall Of Fame Founding JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 9,359	we were A top 5 defense last year as I recall ,so we aren`t getting better!

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DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,307	I don't get caught up in defensive rankings. Especially yardage. Because if you were going to judge defense by yardage, the Jags had a better defense than us yesterday. So theres that. Our Defense has not been good this year. There are no great defenses, there are a handful of good defenses and then you can bunch the next 15 or so together.

12-10-2012, 02:49 PM	#32
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	Amazing how things change... We are a laughing stock yet we are probably going to finish 8-8... And now people want to get rid of Rex even though the guy has never had a losing season with this team, and made it to two AFC championship games despite having a bottom 5 QB.