MNF Thread: Houston @ New England

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Not sure if the Texans didn't show up last night. I think it had more to do with BB schooling Kubiak on both sides of the football. Never saw the Pats play that much man coverage since BB has been in New England.

As for your last comment, how many times does lightning strike in the same place twice?

The Texans receivers, outside of Johnson are not great. Even he has slowed a bit and is not the same explosive receiver he once was. Teams with decent secondaries can play them straight up and focus on stopping the run.

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by PatriotReign

Schaub seemed rattled too...

Last night was a perfect example of the difference between a very good QB and an elite QB.

Several times last night (esecially on 3rd down to keep drives going), Schaub had receivers open that required a good throw into a tight window. He was unable to deliver that good throw.

Elite QB's throw a strike to keep drives going, other QB's do not.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Last night was a perfect example of the difference between a very good QB and an elite QB.

Several times last night (esecially on 3rd down to keep drives going), Schaub had receivers open that required a good throw into a tight window. He was unable to deliver that good throw.

Elite QB's throw a strike to keep drives going, other QB's do not.

I wouldn't know, I watch the Jets.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

yeah, remember when the Pats took Kenneth Sims with the first overall pick in the 1982 draft...ahhhhh those were the days .... that really make you value what you've got now.

Can't find any highlights on youtube, but the ones they showed around draft day made him look dominant. Almost made me feel better for a split second when they passed on Marcus Allen.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

Can't find any highlights on youtube, but the ones they showed around draft day made him look dominant. Almost made me feel better for a split second when they passed on Marcus Allen.

17 career sacks in 74 games says otherwise.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

17 career sacks in 74 games says otherwise.

I know, I know. He was terrible. Lazy and unmotivated (they didn't call him "Game Day" for nothing). Plus drug abuse and other off-field baggage. Just what you want in a #1 overall pick, right.

[Pats1960]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

Cheaters never win and winners never cheat. They Cheated and were caught. Of course, they will be accused of cheating again. They ARE, as a matter of proven irrefutable fact, cheaters. Own up to it and move on.

When the 72 Dolphins own up to their cheating then so will the Pats.

Quick quiz: Which team proudly claimed the saying "if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin" as their own, long before Crygate?

[PatriotReign]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

I know, I know. He was terrible. Lazy and unmotivated (they didn't call him "Game Day" for nothing). Plus drug abuse and other off-field baggage. Just what you want in a #1 overall pick, right.

All was forgiven with the Eugene Chung, Reggie Dupard, Chris Canty, et al blockbuster picks in later years.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by PatriotReign

All was forgiven with the Eugene Chung, Reggie Dupard, Chris Canty, et al blockbuster picks in later years.

The Chung pick was my favorite, in terms of comedic mismanagement. The Pats had the 8th overall pick. OT was their primary need. There were 4 OT's on the board at pick 8 with a first round grade -- Bob Whitfield, Leon Searcy, Ray Roberts and Eugene Chung. Pats trade down with Atlanta to #19. Atlanta takes Whitfield at 8.

Suddenly, Roberts and Searcy get snapped up at #10 and 11. The Patriots panic -- what if all the 1st round OT's get taken before pick 19? The Pats "brain trust" then proceeds to trade up, getting fleeced by Jimmy Johnson in the process, so that they can take Chung.

After the draft, a local writer asked Dick McPherson if Chung had been their top choice among the 4 OT's. I'll never forget his response: "Wouldn't it be nice if we could say that?" Classic. And that's the pre-Kraft Patriots in a microcosm.

[patman]

Originally Posted by AFCEastFan

The Chung pick was my favorite, in terms of comedic mismanagement. The Pats had the 8th overall pick. OT was their primary need. There were 4 OT's on the board at pick 8 with a first round grade -- Bob Whitfield, Leon Searcy, Ray Roberts and Eugene Chung. Pats trade down with Atlanta to #19. Atlanta takes Whitfield at 8.

Suddenly, Roberts and Searcy get snapped up at #10 and 11. The Patriots panic -- what if all the 1st round OT's get taken before pick 19? The Pats "brain trust" then proceeds to trade up, getting fleeced by Jimmy Johnson in the process, so that they can take Chung.

After the draft, a local writer asked Dick McPherson if Chung had been their top choice among the 4 OT's. I'll never forget his response: "Wouldn't it be nice if we could say that?" Classic. And that's the pre-Kraft Patriots in a microcosm.

Please-- nothing symbolized the ineptness of the Pats more than not taking Cortez Kennedy becasue they did not have enough money to sign him! Trading down and picking up Ray Agnew (decent player0 and Chris Singleton

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Last night was a perfect example of the difference between a very good QB and an elite QB.

Several times last night (esecially on 3rd down to keep drives going), Schaub had receivers open that required a good throw into a tight window. He was unable to deliver that good throw.

Elite QB's throw a strike to keep drives going, other QB's do not.

You are right BUT we have seen Brady miss those throws before. Even some of the great ones can be rattled. Very few guys flourish under pressure.

[RaoulDuke]

Originally Posted by FF2®

You don't know how much it pains us that the Pats do not have your trust and respect. Makes the whole thing meaningless now.

[AFCEastFan]

Originally Posted by patman

Please-- nothing symbolized the ineptness of the Pats more than not taking Cortez Kennedy becasue they did not have enough money to sign him! Trading down and picking up Ray Agnew (decent player0 and Chris Singleton

There's a lot to choose from, to be sure. Not good times. Btw, Ray Agnew was god awful.

[JonEJet]

Originally Posted by Tai Mai Shu

The 9ers defense is good but they also are facing the #1 offense in the NFL.
Since the 2010 season, the Patriots are now a combined 21-0 in the second half of the regular season. The Patriots have won 20 straight at home in December. The Patriots have an NFL-best 43-5 record in the month of December since the 2001 season. The Patriots have finished undefeated in December seven times since 2004, (2005 – 4-0), (2007 – 5-0), (2008 – 4-0), (2010 - 4-0) and (2011- 4-0). In 3 games with the 9ers Colin Kaepernick has only threw 1 TD and 1 int. I'm pretty sure the Patriots really afraid of him.

With all those beautiful Decembers described above, The Patriots have ZERO wins when it counts most, in February

[PatsFanTX]

Originally Posted by JonEJet

With all those beautiful Decembers described above, The Patriots have ZERO wins when it counts most, in February

That's pretty funny coming from you.

How's it working for you to root for 9 different teams to lose so the Jets could possibly back into the playoffs once again?

[FF2®]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

That's pretty funny coming from you.

How's it working for you to root for 9 different teams to lose so the Jets could possibly back into the playoffs once again?

What a dick!!

[chirorob]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

That's pretty funny coming from you.

How's it working for you to root for 9 different teams to lose so the Jets could possibly back into the playoffs once again?

You get used to it.

[JonEJet]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

That's pretty funny coming from you.

How's it working for you to root for 9 different teams to lose so the Jets could possibly back into the playoffs once again?

What's even more funny, is that Pats fans now win their SB's in December now

How the mighty cheaters have fallen

[movethechains]

Originally Posted by JonEJet

With all those beautiful Decembers described above, The Patriots have ZERO wins when it counts most, in February

It's plainly embarrassing when Jets fans say things like this, unfortunately it happens too often and it makes the fanbase look like idiots. This is the kind of **** that the likes of Mike Francaessa makes a living off of.

[JonEJet]

Originally Posted by movethechains

It's plainly embarrassing when Jets fans say things like this, unfortunately it happens too often and it makes the fanbase look like idiots. This is the kind of **** that the likes of Mike Francaessa makes a living off of.

GFY