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SouthTown · 12-11-2012, 08:35 AM

OTHER TEAMS SUCK.

We are BARELY beating the worst teams in the league. O what joy!

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-11-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

It is well-documented on this board that this team apparently lacks football minds in the front office, football brains on the sideline and good football players on the field. It seems as if everyone thinks a house cleaning is in order.

So how is it possible the Jets are actually closing in on .500, perhaps even better? What is the #1 reason the Jets, with all these apparent problems, are winning games? I understand 6-7 isn't exactly successful, but based on what most people -- on this board, on TV/radio, experts, etc. -- think of them, the Jets should have no more than 2 wins. So how do they have 6 Ws?

I think the talent level is below average in the league, but the Jets do have some players, particularly on the O Line and defense. And I actually think the Jets are coached better than most of us believe and they play hard for Rex -- usually.

This is why the Jets have 5 of their 6 wins

Bills are not good
Dolphins kicker had a bad day
Rams are not good
Arizona had the worst QB in the history of the NFL playing for them
Jacksonville is terrible.

The Jets have one quality win. They beat a very good Colts team when Sanchez played mistake free, they ran the ball well, and the D was stout.

southparkcpa · 12-11-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

This is why the Jets have 5 of their 6 wins

Bills are not good
Dolphins kicker had a bad day
Rams are not good
Arizona had the worst QB in the history of the NFL playing for them
Jacksonville is terrible.

The Jets have one quality win. They beat a very good Colts team when Sanchez played mistake free, they ran the ball well, and the D was stout.

Agreed....we have not beaten a good tem except the Colts.

124 · 12-11-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

Agreed....we have not beaten a good tem except the Colts.

And the Colts on the road are almost a 180 of the Colts at home.

Their only home loss was when Cecil Shorts caught and ran for an 80 yard score with a minute left.

BamaJets · 12-11-2012, 08:49 AM

Sure, the Jets don't exactly have many sexy wins, but look at the schedules of some of the top teams. Every team has cupcakes, Denver, New England, Atlanta, San Francisco. Those teams are certainly more talented than the Jets, a team really without any playmakers. The Jets have beat teams who are more talented than them.

joiseyjet · 12-11-2012, 08:49 AM

all our tuff opponents were at the beginning of of sched.

Big L · 12-11-2012, 08:52 AM

What is the main reason the Jets are winning games?

Pretty simple, really.

They're playing really sh!tty opponents.

Kotch · 12-11-2012, 09:29 AM

1. Weak opponents.

2. Squeaking by.

3. D-Line and Pass-D playing decently well.

4. Becoming a 1-dimensional offense so that Sanchez has no opportunity to fumble/INT away the game as he is prone to do.

SONNY WERBLIN · 12-11-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kotch

1. Weak opponents.

2. Squeaking by.

3. D-Line and Pass-D playing decently well.

4. Becoming a 1-dimensional offense so that Sanchez has no opportunity to fumble/INT away the game as he is prone to do.

This week during warm-ups they will probably tell Sanchez to just practice handing the ball off.

Kotch · 12-11-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

This week during warm-ups they will probably tell Sanchez to just practice handing the ball off.

He still had a lost fumble in a game where he was only asked to drop back and pass a handful of times.

Joe W. Namath · 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM

We are winning because we benched sanchez in the arizona game, and rendered him useless in the jags game.

PatsFanTX · 12-11-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

This is why the Jets have 5 of their 6 wins

Bills are not good
Dolphins kicker had a bad day
Rams are not good
Arizona had the worst QB in the history of the NFL playing for them
Jacksonville is terrible.

The Jets have one quality win. They beat a very good Colts team when Sanchez played mistake free, they ran the ball well, and the D was stout.

Hmmmm, I wonder if there is any correlation to that and winning games in the NFF?

Joe W. Namath · 12-11-2012, 10:01 AM

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They beat a very good Colts team

The colts are terrible. They will lose by 30 to either the broncs or ravens in rnd 1 of the playoffs.

dublinjetsfan · 12-11-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

The colts are terrible. They will lose by 30 to either the broncs or ravens in rnd 1 of the playoffs.

Stil at least we will be able to say the Jets beat a team with a winning record, and finally get the "Jets have not beaten a team with a winning record, since the Patriots in the 2010 playoffs" monkey off our back

!!

Kentucky Jet · 12-11-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

It is well-documented on this board that this team apparently lacks football minds in the front office, football brains on the sideline and good football players on the field. It seems as if everyone thinks a house cleaning is in order.

So how is it possible the Jets are actually closing in on .500, perhaps even better? What is the #1 reason the Jets, with all these apparent problems, are winning games? I understand 6-7 isn't exactly successful, but based on what most people -- on this board, on TV/radio, experts, etc. -- think of them, the Jets should have no more than 2 wins. So how do they have 6 Ws?

I think the talent level is below average in the league, but the Jets do have some players, particularly on the O Line and defense. And I actually think the Jets are coached better than most of us believe and they play hard for Rex -- usually.

try looking at all the powerhouse teams we have beaten and your answer will be evident.

SlickBri481 · 12-11-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JB1089

1) Rex is a GREAT defensive coach. Unless the defense is just overwhelmed by the talent on the other side of the ball, they're stout.

2) We have played a number of truly terrible teams this year. A lot of people on here think we're a terrible team, but we're not. We're below-average. Our schedule is filled with teams that are either great, very good, or terrible. We don't play any other average to below-average teams, except for the Dolphins and Chargers.

This is a good assessment. Rex's D feasts on overwhelmed and/or young QBs, of which we've played a number of them this season. The list of QBs we've beaten are all either 1st or 2nd young players, or very shaky vets:

Fitzpatrick
Tannehill
Luck
Bradford
Lindley
Henne

Quite simply, QBs like the above will rarely beat a Rex D. The offense needs to melt down completely for us to lose those games, and while it certainly melts down sometimes (see 2nd Miami game), it's usually against the better teams, with which we're outmatched anyway.

Kentucky Jet · 12-11-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaJets

Sure, the Jets don't exactly have many sexy wins, but look at the schedules of some of the top teams. Every team has cupcakes, Denver, New England, Atlanta, San Francisco. Those teams are certainly more talented than the Jets, a team really without any playmakers. The Jets have beat teams who are more talented than them.

True enough! but 1969 was a long time ago!

SizzleBear287 · 12-11-2012, 04:36 PM

Because the Cardinals and Jaguars' offenses were more inept than ours.

Greentide · 12-11-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LIJetsFan

This, with the exception of our QB coach who really really sux

Simple equation. We win war in trenches=victory. We lose war in trenches =loss. Unfortunately we've lost the overall war in the trenches more than we've won them.

Dreamers · 12-11-2012, 06:35 PM

Reality is we have a good base of talent but huge gaping wholes on both ends that the smarter coaches can take advantage of. We have 2 OLB that wouldn't start on any other team. No QB. 2 RBs that are very one dimensional. No RT still. The only issue we really answered last off season was S. We have a strong OL, DL and DB though which is what keeps us in games as long as the O doesn't make too many errors.

12-11-2012, 08:35 AM	#21
SouthTown Veteran Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,073	OTHER TEAMS SUCK. We are BARELY beating the worst teams in the league. O what joy!

12-11-2012, 08:49 AM	#25
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	Sure, the Jets don't exactly have many sexy wins, but look at the schedules of some of the top teams. Every team has cupcakes, Denver, New England, Atlanta, San Francisco. Those teams are certainly more talented than the Jets, a team really without any playmakers. The Jets have beat teams who are more talented than them.

12-11-2012, 08:49 AM	#26
joiseyjet Hall Of Fame Founding JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 9,359	all our tuff opponents were at the beginning of of sched.

12-11-2012, 08:52 AM	#27
Big L Plus six thousand posts Veteran Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: It's all relative Posts: 1,060	What is the main reason the Jets are winning games? Pretty simple, really. They're playing really sh!tty opponents.

12-11-2012, 09:29 AM	#28
Kotch Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,896	1. Weak opponents. 2. Squeaking by. 3. D-Line and Pass-D playing decently well. 4. Becoming a 1-dimensional offense so that Sanchez has no opportunity to fumble/INT away the game as he is prone to do.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM	#31
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,822	We are winning because we benched sanchez in the arizona game, and rendered him useless in the jags game.

12-11-2012, 04:36 PM	#38
SizzleBear287 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,409	Because the Cardinals and Jaguars' offenses were more inept than ours.

12-11-2012, 06:35 PM	#40
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	Reality is we have a good base of talent but huge gaping wholes on both ends that the smarter coaches can take advantage of. We have 2 OLB that wouldn't start on any other team. No QB. 2 RBs that are very one dimensional. No RT still. The only issue we really answered last off season was S. We have a strong OL, DL and DB though which is what keeps us in games as long as the O doesn't make too many errors.