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Old 12-11-2012, 01:25 PM   #61
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Don't forget the Seahawks, they can absolutely beat the Pats, and already did. I actually think if the Seahawks get the 5 seed (2 seed is still in play for them also), they will go into MetLife in the wildcard round and handle the Giants. They have the perfect formula to beat the g-men....
I thought about them (Seattle) actually…
But go take a look at their record away from home (2-5)...
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:33 PM   #62
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I thought about them (Seattle) actually…
But go take a look at their record away from home (2-5)...
Last game on the road was in Chicago and they won. Clearly, being at home gives them an edge, but they are capable of springing a road upset. Not sure about them having to win 3 straight on the road, but an upset is doable.

Hey, we can all threaten Pats fans with "wait until you see the Giants down the road, then you'll see" talk, but wouldn't we prefer the Giants to get upset early, or better yet, miss the playoffs altogether? I know I do. I like how Seattle matches up with them and in the 5 seed, they would play the Giants if they win the NFC East.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:38 PM   #63
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Can't argue with that list although Houston would have to get their sh!t together fast...
I don't want to take anything away from NE because that was a straight up beatdown last night, but Houston just kept shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over again. How many penalties on 3rd down led to points later in the drive?

Every single break went the pats way as well. The fumble houston couldnt land on, the fumble for a td? Come on, that's blind luck.

New England was the better team but let's not act like Houston couldn't beat them next time, especially if they play at home.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:42 PM   #64
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The experts are called "experts" for a reason. They are complete idiots.

Other than 2007, this is the best Patriots team in that 8-year period. Maybe they get knocked out. Maybe they win it all. But one thing I can guarantee is that their playoff performances in the last 8 years or Peter King's latest view of them will have no bearing on whether they win or lose this year.
I agree with you, except for this team being the best team since 07, I think their strength is always great coaching and this year is no different than any other year since the 07 team
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:44 PM   #65
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Do not buy.

Flash in the pan. Pete Carroll's act gets old, Wilson will regress, Lynch is overrated, blah blah blah. Not buying. Wilson was a 3rd rounder for a reason.


That's just dumb. Brady was a late 6 for a reason. Kurt Warner and Tony Romo were undrafted for a reason. Drew Brees wasn't worth a first round pick for a reason. Vince Young was #3 overall for a reason. Ryan Leaf was #2 overall for a reason. Aaron Rogers was a mid to late first for a reason, not a top 10 talent.

Watch Wilson play. Can teams catch up to what he is doing, sure. But teams always get more tape, you always have to adapt. But he is a talent, and it is foolish to discount it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:45 PM   #66
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I don't want to take anything away from NE because that was a straight up beatdown last night, but Houston just kept shooting themselves in the foot over and over and over again. How many penalties on 3rd down led to points later in the drive?

Every single break went the pats way as well. The fumble houston couldnt land on, the fumble for a td? Come on, that's blind luck.

New England was the better team but let's not act like Houston couldn't beat them next time, especially if they play at home.
Yes but good teams don't shoot themselves in the foot with the dumb penalities in big games. Houston's main problem was the inability to out scheme/out play the Pats.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:49 PM   #67
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Yes but good teams don't shoot themselves in the foot with the dumb penalities in big games. Houston's main problem was the inability to out scheme/out play the Pats.
They played a bad game.

Good teams don't lose to the cardinals at home. See how that works. Teams can have an off day.

Schaub was missing open WRs and the receivers were dropping passes. And that fumble at the goal line was potentially a 14 point swing.

Again though, NE was better last night. I'm just saying that on another night it might work out differently because Houston played out of character
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:51 PM   #68
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That's just dumb. Brady was a late 6 for a reason. Kurt Warner and Tony Romo were undrafted for a reason. Drew Brees wasn't worth a first round pick for a reason. Vince Young was #3 overall for a reason. Ryan Leaf was #2 overall for a reason. Aaron Rogers was a mid to late first for a reason, not a top 10 talent.

Watch Wilson play. Can teams catch up to what he is doing, sure. But teams always get more tape, you always have to adapt. But he is a talent, and it is foolish to discount it.
Derek Anderson and Kyle Orton have had fantastic years, too. Not buying.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:52 PM   #69
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:52 PM   #70
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Yes but good teams don't shoot themselves in the foot with the dumb penalities in big games. Houston's main problem was the inability to out scheme/out play the Pats.
Kubiak's comment during the presser said it all.

They practiced the first play of the game for 3 straight days.

Then they come out and get flagged for an illegal formation.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:54 PM   #71
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That team is as dangerous as any in the NFC at home

And therein lies the problem. They won't be at home.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:54 PM   #72
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Kubiak's comment during the presser said it all.

They practiced the first play of the game for 3 straight days.

Then they come out and get flagged for an illegal formation.
It was the Texan's Super Bowl.

It was one of the Pats 16 regular season games.

And that's the difference.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:56 PM   #73
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Kubiak's comment during the presser said it all.

They practiced the first play of the game for 3 straight days.

Then they come out and get flagged for an illegal formation.
Priceless!

I tuned in late, checked on it, NE was already up 7-0, then Schaub throws a pick. Next time I checked on it, 21-0 Pats* and I thought, geez, this isn't even a game, no sense watching. Sounds like Pats* were hitting on all cylinders AND even had lady luck on their side getting the right bounce!
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The acquisition of Talib has tightened up the whole Patriot secondary. Not the same pourous D as the beginning of the season. Rookies have settled in and gained experience and confidence. Pats run D shut down Foster for 42 yds after making a quick adjustment early on.

Pats offense is second to none at this time. When Gronk returns Brady will have another weapon in his arsenal. The Pats running game is something that has to be accounted for now. It's not all Brady's arm.

Being the homer that I am, I like the Pat's chances at being in another Super Bowl, but like has been said many times, Any Given Day.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #75
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brady mastered gm of football & NFL QB... MASTERED IT!!! Ill say it again BRADY has MASTERED the NFL QB POSITION.. (fill n blank)C-E-P-H-T him & u should win...
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:05 PM   #76
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The acquisition of Talib has tightened up the whole Patriot secondary. Not the same pourous D as the beginning of the season. Rookies have settled in and gained experience and confidence. Pats run D shut down Foster for 42 yds after making a quick adjustment early on.

Pats offense is second to none at this time. When Gronk returns Brady will have another weapon in his arsenal. The Pats running game is something that has to be accounted for now. It's not all Brady's arm.

Being the homer that I am, I like the Pat's chances at being in another Super Bowl, but like has been said many times, Any Given Day.
Houston had to throw it too much after falling behind early. They couldn't commit to the run like they usually do.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:09 PM   #77
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Houston had to throw it too much after falling behind early. They couldn't commit to the run like they usually do.
Schaub seemed to struggle all night. I think it's fair to question whether he can win a big game over an elite opponent in the playoffs. Texans got blitzed by Rodgers and Brady, Peyton put a scare into them late too. If their path to the SB is having to beat both Peyton and Brady, they won't get there. They need someone else to pull an upset in my opinion
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Priceless!

I tuned in late, checked on it, NE was already up 7-0, then Schaub throws a pick. Next time I checked on it, 21-0 Pats* and I thought, geez, this isn't even a game, no sense watching. Sounds like Pats* were hitting on all cylinders AND even had lady luck on their side getting the right bounce!
2 plays changed the game.

1) Ridley's fumble the Texans could not recover (Kubiak in the presser: We just need to fall on the ball and not try to get cute).

2) Schaub's pick in the end zone. He stared down Daniels the entire route, McCourty read his eyes and made a great break on the throw for the pick. Not to mention, Foster was uncovered in the middle of the field and could have walked in the the TD.

That's a 14 point swing early in the game.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:12 PM   #79
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2 plays changed the game.

1) Ridley's fumble the Texans could not recover (Kubiak in the presser: We just need to fall on the ball and not try to get cute).

2) Schaub's pick in the end zone. He stared down Daniels the entire route, McCourty read his eyes and made a great break on the throw for the pick. Not to mention, Foster was uncovered in the middle of the field and could have walked in the the TD.

That's a 14 point swing early in the game.
Yep, McCourty was slick on that one. Perfect timing.
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When they did run, they got nowhere.

Pats run D adjusted to what Houston was doing on the run. Foster was stifled.

He ran 15 times for 46 yds. First 2 runs he got 10 and 15 yds. Rest of his carries were 13 for 21yds. That's 1.6 ypc. He was Shut Down !
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