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CraigFL · 12-12-2012, 01:53 PM

Braylon’s Return Seals Mike T’s Fate
Posted by Corey Griffin on Dec 12, 2012 in Main, Opinion | 1 comment

Signing Braylon Edwards will be the final nail in Mike Tannenbaum’s coffin. Book it.
It won’t be a particularly large nail – and, to be honest, the coffin is pretty much sealed up – but it will lock in the air, finally suffocating the man largely responsible for an agitated fan base and a piss-poor excuse for an NFL roster.
Edwards is a reminder of Tannenbaum’s greatest failures and the downward descent the franchise has been on since then. Every time he catches a pass, there will be at least a fleeting thought of “what could have been.” If he struggles to adapt in a short time, there will be anger over having to turn to a free agent wideout in the throes of a desperate playoff chase due to a barren cupboard.
It’s no secret that Mr. T is largely to blame for a wide receiver corps that was so woefully maintained that signing Edwards is met with universal acclaim by Gang Green Nation – to say nothing of the quarterback, the linebackers, the pass rush or the startling lack of playmakers at almost every position. But it’s the return of Edwards that brings Tannenbaum’s Jets legacy full circle, to his decision to walk away from the two players best suited to Mark Sanchez’s game – Edwards and Jerricho Cotchery.
Isn’t it interesting that speculation swirled around the possible returns of both Edwards and Cotchery this past offseason? It wasn’t even a year since Tannenbaum parted with them in favor of Santonio Holmes, Plaxico Burress and Derrick Mason. But shortly after the speculation (leak?), suddenly Tanny wasn’t interested in either, content to roll into the season painfully low on depth or reliable talent beyond Holmes and maybe Jeremy Kerley (Patrick Turner sure worked out, eh?).

Oh, what a time it was
As “The Beard” returns to Florham Park, so do memories of high-point catches in Indianapolis and New England. But those memories are long gone, faded due in large part to a front office that is no longer trusted by player and agent alike. Long before Edwards called Tannebaum and Co. “idiots,” there were plenty of former and current Jets doing the same thing. In the interest of being cold and calculating, Tannenabum became straight up deceitful.
He cut bait with character player after character player, citing the “get out one year early rather than one year too late” method, and for the most part it worked. But eventually when you disenfranchise enough quality people (not players, but people), you suddenly have a roster of people looking for a payday rather than a solid team. He reportedly lied to players and agents about future contract extensions and the game of chicken he played with Darrelle Revis’ agents to this day remains the shallowest, most disturbing thing I’ve ever seen on Hard Knocks.
His treatment of players has led to a locker room that has no problem going to the tabloids as soon as they’re disgruntled. And who can blame them?
Edwards wasn’t wrong. Tannenbaum IS an idiot. He’s an idiot for replacing Leon Washington with Joe McKnight after reportedly screwing Washington over on a contract. He’s a bigger idiot for paying Holmes over Edwards and alienating Cotchery to the point where Cotchery demanded out. And don’t get me started on the Plax and Mason experiment.
But now, hat in injury-riddled hand, Tannebaum has to go back to Edwards because his cap-strapped team couldn’t afford decent veteran wideouts and has little to no faith in a player like Jordan White to step in and at least know the offense enough to play limited snaps. The fact that it comes a week after Edwards outwardly ripped Tannebaum only adds to the splendor and sends a loud-and-clear message to a locker room already disgruntled with the front office.
Tannenbaum has no clue what he is doing. He is completely under water, swinging his arms wildly and hoping to latch onto a life preserver. Except the team that might actually save this season would probably prefer to see him lose his job.

Thought it was worthy of debate.

DBAKE · 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM

always was a fan of tannys aggressive style...but its clear he does not have an eye for talent.....i hope he stays around in some capacity, he is a great cap guy......but gm....not so much. bye bye tanny.

Jet Nut · 12-12-2012, 02:03 PM

Tanny screwed up by not bringing in WRs, who doesn't get this, where is the debate and how often can someone write this same old story?

To even hint that part of his screw up was allowing a WR go who has gone on to catch all of 23 passes for roughly 250 yards in two seasons Is silly. If anything he would have been killed for signing BE to any contact.

jets31 · 12-12-2012, 02:04 PM

Why? I dont get it? This team is desperate for help at WR and whether ppl want to think it is real or not we ARE in the playoff hunt.

Braylon was the only real option out there plus he is comfortable with Sanchez. He is the only guy with any chance to provide a real spark at this point.

If Tanny loses his job it will have nothing to do with this low risk high reward pick up. If anything he will lose his job for not signing Braylon at the beginning of the year to give this team some talent at WR.

Joe W. Namath · 12-12-2012, 02:09 PM

Enjoy your last 3 weeks Mike.

CraigFL · 12-12-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jets31

Why? I dont get it? This team is desperate for help at WR and whether ppl want to think it is real or not we ARE in the playoff hunt.

Braylon was the only real option out there plus he is comfortable with Sanchez. He is the only guy with any chance to provide a real spark at this point.

If Tanny loses his job it will have nothing to do with this low risk high reward pick up. If anything he will lose his job for not signing Braylon at the beginning of the year to give this team some talent at WR.

I think this was the point, along with other terrible talent evaluations, et al.

McGinley · 12-12-2012, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Nut

Tanny screwed up by not bringing in WRs, who doesn't get this, where is the debate and how often can someone write this same old story?

To even hint that part of his screw up was allowing a WR go who has gone on to catch all of 23 passes for roughly 250 yards in two seasons Is silly. If anything he would have been killed for signing BE to any contact.

To be fair, he's been injured the last 2 seasons. But, yes, I get your point.

sec.101row23 · 12-12-2012, 02:15 PM

I had mentioned this yesterday as to why I didnt think the Jets would bring in Braylon. I thought if Braylon did anything positive it would make Tanny look bad and raise even more second guessing. Maybe a sign that Tanny is out the door already, and Rex signed off on this. I know Rex liked Braylon, and Braylon loved Rex. His comments about Rex when he was interviewed by the Dolphins on Hard Knocks shows proof of this.

jets31 · 12-12-2012, 02:18 PM

To be fair though I believe the reason they didnt bring in Braylon was stephen hill. Im sure they felt he is the future and bringing in Bray would stunt the growth of hill who we all know is very raw

boxman · 12-12-2012, 02:19 PM

We can only hope.

sg3 · 12-12-2012, 02:28 PM

what can we do to seal Corey Griffin's (whatever the F that is) fate???

southparkcpa · 12-12-2012, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Nut

Tanny screwed up by not bringing in WRs, who doesn't get this, where is the debate and how often can someone write this same old story?

To even hint that part of his screw up was allowing a WR go who has gone on to catch all of 23 passes for roughly 250 yards in two seasons Is silly. If anything he would have been killed for signing BE to any contact.

THIS.^^^^^

Braylon well over estimated his worth. NO TEAM was willing to pay him REAL money.

Tanny was right not to re sign him for big money.

The fact that he FELL to us speaks of his worth.

Dreamers · 12-12-2012, 02:35 PM

Tanny sealed his fate when he sign Sanchez to that extension IMO. Dude put all his eggs in one basket. That basket showed up half eaten, full of ants, and pissed on.

First DOWN! · 12-12-2012, 02:39 PM

Tanny screwed up when he threw Mangini under the bus and got rid of the guy largely responsible building the strong roster we had.

Green Bandit · 12-12-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by First DOWN!

Tanny screwed up when he threw Mangini under the bus and got rid of the guy largely responsible building the strong roster we had.

Ding ding ding !

Even Mangini said the Gholston pick was all Tanny.

Even though the Browns aren't good still, look what he did to their defense.

Jet Nut · 12-12-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by southparkcpa

THIS.^^^^^

BE well over estimated his worth. NO TEAM was willing to pay him REAL money.

The fact that he FELL to us speaks of his worth.

His history speaks of his worth.

Cleveland needed WRs and sent him to us.

We needed WRs and let him go, signing scrubs to replace him.

SF was desperate for a WR and let him go.

Seattle heading to the playoffs with a rookie QB set him free.

We signed him out of pure desperation and with no one else interested.

Stanger scenarios work out, who knows

Foggy · 12-12-2012, 02:53 PM

His mis-handling of some second tier players isn't the story.

It's Tannenbaum's contract extension of Sanchez that boggles the mind.

GreenReaper · 12-12-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DBAKE

always was a fan of tannys aggressive style...but its clear he does not have an eye for talent.....i hope he stays around in some capacity, he is a great cap guy......but gm....not so much. bye bye tanny.

I do believe it's time to bring in someone with a strong football background. Someone with a true vision for this football team. With a reputation for talent evaluation and development. It is important not only to draft or sign good talent, but to oversee the player's development. Especially at the QB position. Which is a mess right now.

Tanny is excellent at crunching numbers over the CAP and contracts. And Woody likes him. So maybe he can stay on in that capacity.

southparkcpa · 12-12-2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Nut

His history speaks of his worth.

Cleveland needed WRs and sent him to us.

We needed WRs and let him go, signing scrubs to replace him.

SF was desperate for a WR and let him go.

Seattle heading to the playoffs with a rookie QB set him free.

We signed him out of pure desperation and with no one else interested.

Stanger scenarios work out, who knows

Funny if not so true.

Joe_Pez · 12-12-2012, 03:15 PM

I agree with Edwards 100% Tannabaum is an Idiot so why punish a guy who speaks the truth. He has single handedly sunk this team. This is what you get when you make a BEAN COUNTER a football guy! If woody likes him so much then put him back were be belongs doing contracts he was pretty good at that. Then bring in a football guy who could work with Rex and get this team the talent it needs.
They should of signed edwards in 2010. How do you let go of one of the best WR you have who works nicely with your team and got the same amount of money that Plaxico got. Getting rid of Jerico was another mistake. What about woodhead, remember him? They dumped him for clowny which I don't think is even playing ball anymore!

12-12-2012, 01:53 PM	#1
CraigFL still a rookie after 4 years. should be SanchezFL Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 987	Braylon’s Return Seals Mike T’s Fate Braylon’s Return Seals Mike T’s Fate Posted by Corey Griffin on Dec 12, 2012 in Main, Opinion \| 1 comment Signing Braylon Edwards will be the final nail in Mike Tannenbaum’s coffin. Book it. It won’t be a particularly large nail – and, to be honest, the coffin is pretty much sealed up – but it will lock in the air, finally suffocating the man largely responsible for an agitated fan base and a piss-poor excuse for an NFL roster. Edwards is a reminder of Tannenbaum’s greatest failures and the downward descent the franchise has been on since then. Every time he catches a pass, there will be at least a fleeting thought of “what could have been.” If he struggles to adapt in a short time, there will be anger over having to turn to a free agent wideout in the throes of a desperate playoff chase due to a barren cupboard. It’s no secret that Mr. T is largely to blame for a wide receiver corps that was so woefully maintained that signing Edwards is met with universal acclaim by Gang Green Nation – to say nothing of the quarterback, the linebackers, the pass rush or the startling lack of playmakers at almost every position. But it’s the return of Edwards that brings Tannenbaum’s Jets legacy full circle, to his decision to walk away from the two players best suited to Mark Sanchez’s game – Edwards and Jerricho Cotchery. Isn’t it interesting that speculation swirled around the possible returns of both Edwards and Cotchery this past offseason? It wasn’t even a year since Tannenbaum parted with them in favor of Santonio Holmes, Plaxico Burress and Derrick Mason. But shortly after the speculation (leak?), suddenly Tanny wasn’t interested in either, content to roll into the season painfully low on depth or reliable talent beyond Holmes and maybe Jeremy Kerley (Patrick Turner sure worked out, eh?). Oh, what a time it was As “The Beard” returns to Florham Park, so do memories of high-point catches in Indianapolis and New England. But those memories are long gone, faded due in large part to a front office that is no longer trusted by player and agent alike. Long before Edwards called Tannebaum and Co. “idiots,” there were plenty of former and current Jets doing the same thing. In the interest of being cold and calculating, Tannenabum became straight up deceitful. He cut bait with character player after character player, citing the “get out one year early rather than one year too late” method, and for the most part it worked. But eventually when you disenfranchise enough quality people (not players, but people), you suddenly have a roster of people looking for a payday rather than a solid team. He reportedly lied to players and agents about future contract extensions and the game of chicken he played with Darrelle Revis’ agents to this day remains the shallowest, most disturbing thing I’ve ever seen on Hard Knocks. His treatment of players has led to a locker room that has no problem going to the tabloids as soon as they’re disgruntled. And who can blame them? Edwards wasn’t wrong. Tannenbaum IS an idiot. He’s an idiot for replacing Leon Washington with Joe McKnight after reportedly screwing Washington over on a contract. He’s a bigger idiot for paying Holmes over Edwards and alienating Cotchery to the point where Cotchery demanded out. And don’t get me started on the Plax and Mason experiment. But now, hat in injury-riddled hand, Tannebaum has to go back to Edwards because his cap-strapped team couldn’t afford decent veteran wideouts and has little to no faith in a player like Jordan White to step in and at least know the offense enough to play limited snaps. The fact that it comes a week after Edwards outwardly ripped Tannebaum only adds to the splendor and sends a loud-and-clear message to a locker room already disgruntled with the front office. Tannenbaum has no clue what he is doing. He is completely under water, swinging his arms wildly and hoping to latch onto a life preserver. Except the team that might actually save this season would probably prefer to see him lose his job. Thought it was worthy of debate. Last edited by CraigFL; 12-12-2012 at 01:56 PM.

12-12-2012, 02:02 PM	#2
DBAKE i was right about suckchez Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 3,220	always was a fan of tannys aggressive style...but its clear he does not have an eye for talent.....i hope he stays around in some capacity, he is a great cap guy......but gm....not so much. bye bye tanny.

12-12-2012, 02:03 PM	#3
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,097	Tanny screwed up by not bringing in WRs, who doesn't get this, where is the debate and how often can someone write this same old story? To even hint that part of his screw up was allowing a WR go who has gone on to catch all of 23 passes for roughly 250 yards in two seasons Is silly. If anything he would have been killed for signing BE to any contact.

12-12-2012, 02:04 PM	#4
jets31 ready to NARFLE THE GARTHOK! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,877	Why? I dont get it? This team is desperate for help at WR and whether ppl want to think it is real or not we ARE in the playoff hunt. Braylon was the only real option out there plus he is comfortable with Sanchez. He is the only guy with any chance to provide a real spark at this point. If Tanny loses his job it will have nothing to do with this low risk high reward pick up. If anything he will lose his job for not signing Braylon at the beginning of the year to give this team some talent at WR.

12-12-2012, 02:09 PM	#5
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,819	Enjoy your last 3 weeks Mike.

12-12-2012, 02:15 PM	#8
sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,847	I had mentioned this yesterday as to why I didnt think the Jets would bring in Braylon. I thought if Braylon did anything positive it would make Tanny look bad and raise even more second guessing. Maybe a sign that Tanny is out the door already, and Rex signed off on this. I know Rex liked Braylon, and Braylon loved Rex. His comments about Rex when he was interviewed by the Dolphins on Hard Knocks shows proof of this.

12-12-2012, 02:18 PM	#9
jets31 ready to NARFLE THE GARTHOK! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,877	To be fair though I believe the reason they didnt bring in Braylon was stephen hill. Im sure they felt he is the future and bringing in Bray would stunt the growth of hill who we all know is very raw

12-12-2012, 02:19 PM	#10
boxman GENO! Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 856	We can only hope.

12-12-2012, 02:28 PM	#11
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,369	what can we do to seal Corey Griffin's (whatever the F that is) fate???

12-12-2012, 02:35 PM	#13
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	Tanny sealed his fate when he sign Sanchez to that extension IMO. Dude put all his eggs in one basket. That basket showed up half eaten, full of ants, and pissed on.

12-12-2012, 02:39 PM	#14
First DOWN! Practice Squad Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 393	Tanny screwed up when he threw Mangini under the bus and got rid of the guy largely responsible building the strong roster we had.

12-12-2012, 02:53 PM	#17
Foggy Lifer Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94	His mis-handling of some second tier players isn't the story. It's Tannenbaum's contract extension of Sanchez that boggles the mind.

12-12-2012, 03:15 PM	#20
Joe_Pez Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 265	I agree with Edwards 100% Tannabaum is an Idiot so why punish a guy who speaks the truth. He has single handedly sunk this team. This is what you get when you make a BEAN COUNTER a football guy! If woody likes him so much then put him back were be belongs doing contracts he was pretty good at that. Then bring in a football guy who could work with Rex and get this team the talent it needs. They should of signed edwards in 2010. How do you let go of one of the best WR you have who works nicely with your team and got the same amount of money that Plaxico got. Getting rid of Jerico was another mistake. What about woodhead, remember him? They dumped him for clowny which I don't think is even playing ball anymore!