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Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-13-2012, 11:00 AM

Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman in the first round - not exactly lighting it up. None of them is looking like they're getting to the SB let alone the HOF.

Anybody know what other QB's were available in that draft, without looking it up? One in the 2nd and one in the 4th and they are already history.

What was the alternative, Jason Campbell? He would have taken the Jets to the SB?

You have to keep 'swinging at the pinata' but sometimes it's just empty.

chirorob · 12-13-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman in the first round - not exactly lighting it up. None of them is looking like they're getting to the SB let alone the HOF.

Anybody know what other QB's were available in that draft, without looking it up? One in the 2nd and one in the 4th and they are already history.

What was the alternative, Jason Campbell? He would have taken the Jets to the SB?

You have to keep 'swinging at the pinata' but sometimes it's just empty.

Sometimes, it's just the year.

The Jets had back to back #1 overall picks. They got a good (not great) WR and an inside linebacker who won player of the year for Pitt. The next year Peyton Manning came out.

Last year was a great year to suck. This year, not so much.

Gibby · 12-13-2012, 11:05 AM

I would trade Sanchez for Stafford so ****ing fast it would make your head spin.

MDL_JET · 12-13-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chirorob

Sometimes, it's just the year.

The Jets had back to back #1 overall picks. They got a good (not great) WR and an inside linebacker who won player of the year for Pitt. The next year Peyton Manning came out.

Last year was a great year to suck. This year, not so much.

We suck at sucking. That's the Jets for ya.

Down, Set, Haiku · 12-13-2012, 11:09 AM

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I would trade Sanchez for Stafford so ****ing fast it would make your head spin.

Gibby · 12-13-2012, 11:09 AM

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I would trade Sanchez for Stafford so ****ing fast it would make your head spin.

As a matter of fact. I would run, not walk to make this deal, and throw in this years # 2 to make it happen.

BamaJets · 12-13-2012, 11:10 AM

Rhett Bomar! Mike Teel! Stephen Mcgee! ugly crop of QBs that year. And of course Julian Edelman. Pretty ugly draft all around. 2013 draft kinda has that smell

IM3 · 12-13-2012, 11:11 AM

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As a matter of fact. I would run, not walk to make this deal, and throw in this years # 2 to make it happen.

LOL im sure the Lions are dying to pull the trigger on that one

JetPotato · 12-13-2012, 11:12 AM

The 2013 draft will be as similar year

DDNYjets · 12-13-2012, 11:13 AM

Stafford did throw for 5000 yards and 40+ TDs last year. And not all of them were to Megatron.

Savage69 · 12-13-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman in the first round - not exactly lighting it up. None of them is looking like they're getting to the SB let alone the HOF.

Anybody know what other QB's were available in that draft, without looking it up? One in the 2nd and one in the 4th and they are already history.

What was the alternative, Jason Campbell? He would have taken the Jets to the SB?

You have to keep 'swinging at the pinata' but sometimes it's just empty.

Out of all the starting QB's today probably only a 1/3 were drafted in the top 10..

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-13-2012, 11:44 AM

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Out of all the starting QB's today probably only a 1/3 were drafted in the top 10..

Correct. Which is why I mentioned the following rounds. Pat White in the second nobody in the third and Steven McGee in the 4th. Ever heard of them?

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-13-2012, 11:45 AM

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As a matter of fact. I would run, not walk to make this deal, and throw in this years # 2 to make it happen.

Non-existent deal is non-existent. Just like the number one all around pick was in 2009.

Gibby · 12-13-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

Non-existent deal is non-existent. Just like the number one all around pick was in 2009.

Let me get this straight. Are you calling Stafford a bust? Matt Stafford has nothing at all to do with the Lions not winning this year. Pretty sure there are a lot of GM's out there that would LOVE to swap their QB for Stafford. I know I would. Put it this way if he was our QB next year, along with a # 1 back. And Norv Turner as the O.C. ( like I threw that one in) . Little foreshadowing The Jets will make a deep playoff run. Woody get on this.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-13-2012, 12:18 PM

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Let me get this straight. Are you calling Stafford a bust? Matt Stafford has nothing at all to do with the Lions not winning this year. Pretty sure there are a lot of GM's out there that would LOVE to swap their QB for Stafford. I know I would. Put it this way if he was our QB next year, along with a # 1 back. And Norv Turner as the O.C. ( like I threw that one in) . Little foreshadowing The Jets will make a deep playoff run. Woody get on this.

No I'm not calling out Stafford. I'm talking about the whole draft in general. So he was the one good pick available, out of the question for the Jets, who still isn't "elevating his teammates to the SB". I'm saying it was a lousy year overall. Even though he's the exception his team still isn't going anywhere. You can blame them for taking Sanchez at 5 but there weren't a ton of options. You should be able to find a QB without having a 1-15 record and in '09 that just doesn't seem like it was possible.

Beerfish · 12-13-2012, 12:19 PM

If the Qb's are not good in a given year you simply don't take one.

sec.101row23 · 12-13-2012, 12:19 PM

Last year was good year for QBs, aside from the obvious 2 at the top of the draft, you had Ossweiler, Wilson, Cousins and Foles.

Savage69 · 12-13-2012, 12:21 PM

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Last year was good year for QBs, aside from the obvious 2 at the top of the draft, you had Ossweiler, Wilson, Cousins and Foles.

You hate Ryan Tannehill??

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-13-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

If the Qb's are not good in a given year you simply don't take one.

That would have been the better plan, but for Woody's Must Win Now mentality and Rex signing up for it.

Gibby · 12-13-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

No I'm not calling out Stafford. I'm talking about the whole draft in general. So he was the one good pick available, out of the question for the Jets, who still isn't "elevating his teammates to the SB". I'm saying it was a lousy year overall. Even though he's the exception his team still isn't going anywhere. You can blame them for taking Sanchez at 5 but there weren't a ton of options. You should be able to find a QB without having a 1-15 record and in '09 that just doesn't seem like it was possible.

Gattcha. I misunderstood you.

12-13-2012, 11:00 AM	#1
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,184	2009 Was a Lousy Year to Get a QB Stafford, Sanchez and Freeman in the first round - not exactly lighting it up. None of them is looking like they're getting to the SB let alone the HOF. Anybody know what other QB's were available in that draft, without looking it up? One in the 2nd and one in the 4th and they are already history. What was the alternative, Jason Campbell? He would have taken the Jets to the SB? You have to keep 'swinging at the pinata' but sometimes it's just empty.

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Gibby Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,993	I would trade Sanchez for Stafford so ****ing fast it would make your head spin.

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BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	Rhett Bomar! Mike Teel! Stephen Mcgee! ugly crop of QBs that year. And of course Julian Edelman. Pretty ugly draft all around. 2013 draft kinda has that smell

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JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,142	The 2013 draft will be as similar year

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DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,306	Stafford did throw for 5000 yards and 40+ TDs last year. And not all of them were to Megatron.

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Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,090	If the Qb's are not good in a given year you simply don't take one.

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sec.101row23 All Pro Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mendham, NJ Posts: 7,847	Last year was good year for QBs, aside from the obvious 2 at the top of the draft, you had Ossweiler, Wilson, Cousins and Foles.