To all the people who say Rex and Tanny suck at drafting - Page 4 - Jets Insider.com Forums

FF2® · 12-13-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nybaseball5

just because these people are starting dosnt mean they are good either.

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eaglenj · 12-13-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jetman67

The Jets are not very talented. There were several positions with big holes last off season and Tanny failed to do it. He was so wrapped up with Manning /Tebow he didnt bother trying to upgrade anything else till it was too late in free agency to get any quality players.

The Jets dont have playoff type talent. Sanchez doesnt have the weapons he had in 09-10. Our running game has dropped since LT retired.

You say the Jets are on a playoff run? The Jets playoff hopes are on life support!! thats not a playoff run.

Are we going to start the RT conversation yet again? Even though he Howard has been perfectly fine?

We drafted Hill at WR in the 2nd round to be our 3rd WR, unfortunately holmes got hurt, he was forced into action and then he got hurt.

We drafted demario davis with an eye on the future as 3 of our LBs are free agents after this season.

We drafted bush and antonio allen as both our safeties are on 1 year contracts.

You cant fill every hole every year.

Buzzsaw · 12-13-2012, 04:17 PM

Our roster is among the worst in the entire league. Zero playmakers and two Pro Bowl players, one that we didn't even draft (Cromartie).

Look at our starters compared to teams that we're supposed to be similar to - San Fran and Baltimore. Our "studs" would be lucky to make their practice squads.

MDL_JET · 12-13-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_Times_A_Charm

Look it over. They have drafted studs every year. Even including this most recent draft, we have people starting on our team from every single draft in the past 4 years. What else could you ask for?

Who are these studs you speak of? Does just making the roster make you a stud? Because that's what it seems like you're thinking here..

None of these guys are all pros or even went to the pro bowl. It's kinda sad now that you laid it all out for us.

124 · 12-13-2012, 04:27 PM

Is this kid serious?

Just because someone is starting doesn't mean that they should be, and just because they're a back-up doesn't make them a good back-up.

By using this logic, every draft by every team is THE AWEZOMES.

Conkboy · 12-13-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_Times_A_Charm

I just have to ask: In what world are you living?

2009

Mark Sanchez - starting QB
Shonn Greene - starting RB
Matt Slauson - starting LG

2010

Kyle Wilson - starting CB
Vlad Ducasse - backup LG (okay, he does suck)
Joe McKnight - starting KR
John Conner - gone
Santonio Holmes - starting WR. Traded a 5th rounder this year for him

2011

Mo Wilkerson - starting DE
Antonio Cromartie - starting CB. Traded a 2nd rounder this year for him
Kenrick Ellis - backup DT
Bilal Powell - starting RB
Jeremy Kerley - starting WR
Greg McElroy - Won a game for us. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't be making a run for the playoffs
Scotty McKnight - gone

2012

Quinton Coples - starting/backup DE. Hard to tell really. He gets a lot of reps.
Stephen Hill - starting WR
Demario Davis - starting MLB
Josh Bush - backup S
Terrence Ganaway - gone
Robert Griffin - gone
Antonio Allen - backup S
Jordan White - backup WR

So... I just have to say: What the **** are you people thinking?

Look it over. They have drafted studs every year. Even including this most recent draft, we have people starting on our team from every single draft in the past 4 years. What else could you ask for?

Out of 23 draft picks, 19 of them are still on our team in contributing roles. 13 of them are starting or are getting lots of reps. 2009, 2011, and 2012 have all been stellar drafts that got us multiple good starters. Look at the 2011 draft and then tell me Tanny doesn't know what he's doing. Wilkerson, Cro, Ellis, Powell, Kerley.

Clearly, you are wrong. What do you have to say for yourselves?

Happy Holidays Mrs Tannenbaum!

eaglenj · 12-13-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

Our roster is among the worst in the entire league. Zero playmakers and two Pro Bowl players, one that we didn't even draft (Cromartie).

Look at our starters compared to teams that we're supposed to be similar to - San Fran and Baltimore. Our "studs" would be lucky to make their practice squads.

Who on baltimore is contributing from their last 2 drafts? Is jimmy smith better then kyle wilson? Is wilkerson better then terrance cody? Or coples better then courtney upshaw? Is kerley better then tandon doss or even torrey smith (52 catches to smiths 43) and kerley has to play with sanchez?

Baltimore has done a great job staying competitive year after year, but they havent won anything more then we have the past 4 seasons.

It takes 2-3 years to evaluate a draft class and hopefully, once we find a QB that doesnt fumble 7 times in a season, along with having more INTs than TDs, then maybe we can accurately judge our talent.

rich1223 · 12-13-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_Times_A_Charm

I just have to ask: In what world are you living?

2009

Mark Sanchez - starting QB
Shonn Greene - starting RB
Matt Slauson - starting LG

2010

Kyle Wilson - starting CB
Vlad Ducasse - backup LG (okay, he does suck)
Joe McKnight - starting KR
John Conner - gone
Santonio Holmes - starting WR. Traded a 5th rounder this year for him

2011

Mo Wilkerson - starting DE
Antonio Cromartie - starting CB. Traded a 2nd rounder this year for him
Kenrick Ellis - backup DT
Bilal Powell - starting RB
Jeremy Kerley - starting WR
Greg McElroy - Won a game for us. If it wasn't for him we wouldn't be making a run for the playoffs
Scotty McKnight - gone

2012

Quinton Coples - starting/backup DE. Hard to tell really. He gets a lot of reps.
Stephen Hill - starting WR
Demario Davis - starting MLB
Josh Bush - backup S
Terrence Ganaway - gone
Robert Griffin - gone
Antonio Allen - backup S
Jordan White - backup WR

So... I just have to say: What the **** are you people thinking?

Look it over. They have drafted studs every year. Even including this most recent draft, we have people starting on our team from every single draft in the past 4 years. What else could you ask for?

Out of 23 draft picks, 19 of them are still on our team in contributing roles. 13 of them are starting or are getting lots of reps. 2009, 2011, and 2012 have all been stellar drafts that got us multiple good starters. Look at the 2011 draft and then tell me Tanny doesn't know what he's doing. Wilkerson, Cro, Ellis, Powell, Kerley.

Clearly, you are wrong. What do you have to say for yourselves?

Damn dude!You had to know you were going to get ripped apart for making this thread!And rightfully so!

chesapeakejet · 12-13-2012, 04:54 PM

Kyle Wilson, average? Are you kiddin' me?

Definitely sub-par.

3rd_Times_A_Charm · 12-13-2012, 05:04 PM

I know you guys think that I'm crazy but I'm telling you with 100% certainty that you are the crazy ones. Tearing into your own guys like this for no reason...

What has Kyle Wilson done this year that's SO BAD? Shonn Greene? Bilal Powell?

These kids are all players with good potential. Obviously some haven't been playing up to their potential at points this season but that happens to all teams.

You all just look at the glass half empty, there's no other way to say it.

EM31 · 12-13-2012, 05:05 PM

I would not put it past Mike T to try and get in a little grass roots image polishing on these boards. Look Ma! And they said you could not polish a turd.

This not about if he has to go at this point but rather the timing and manner of the when.

3rd_Times_A_Charm · 12-13-2012, 05:05 PM

When we're in the playoffs and you guys are all gushing about how smashmouth football is the way to go once the playoffs come, stat's don't matter, wins matter, etc. you can all kiss my ass.

McGinley · 12-13-2012, 05:07 PM

3rd_Times_A_Charm · 12-13-2012, 05:09 PM

McGinley - that's like the 3rd time you posted that. No one laughed the first or the second times. Three strikes and you're out buddy.

McGinley · 12-13-2012, 05:13 PM

Warfish · 12-13-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

Our roster is among the worst in the entire league.

It's not even one of the worst in the AFC East.

You know, IF all you "we have no talent of any kind" guys are right, you SHOULD be the biggest fans of Rex Ryan possible. He's taken a no talent, worst-talent-in-NFL roster, and has us at 6-7 and still in contention with three weeks left.

But I'm guessing you blame him for the lack of talent too. So I guess we'll fire the GM, Head Coach, Staff and all the players this offseason.

Super Bowls will surely come soon then. I know every winning big name guy will want the job of a fired Coach who never had a losing season.

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Look at our starters compared to teams that we're supposed to be similar to - San Fran and Baltimore. Our "studs" would be lucky to make their practice squads.

Riiiight, I'm sure they wouldn't want Mangold or Revis or Cro or Holmes or our young Defensive guys, or......gotcha.

The hate runs deep these days.

DDNYjets · 12-13-2012, 05:18 PM

3rd_Times_A_Charm · 12-13-2012, 05:23 PM

Funny thing is, you guys are the same people who were sucking this team's proverbial **** after the first Buffalo win. I'm sure you were all amazed at how great Sanchez, Hill, and Greene were.

You guys just are too emotional and you get caught up in the pendulum. Luckily for us, our pendulum is swinging back to HOT at the right time.

DDNYjets · 12-13-2012, 05:25 PM

Look at the roster at the beginning of the Rex/Tanny era and then look at the roster now. Downgrades in every single unity except for CB and Safety.

McGinley · 12-13-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Look at the roster at the beginning of the Rex/Tanny era and then look at the roster now. Downgrades in every single unity except for CB and Safety.

No, brah. ELITE PLAYERS ERREWHERE!

#3rdTimesDaKoolaid

12-13-2012, 04:17 PM	#63
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,305	Our roster is among the worst in the entire league. Zero playmakers and two Pro Bowl players, one that we didn't even draft (Cromartie). Look at our starters compared to teams that we're supposed to be similar to - San Fran and Baltimore. Our "studs" would be lucky to make their practice squads.

12-13-2012, 04:27 PM	#65
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,970	Is this kid serious? Just because someone is starting doesn't mean that they should be, and just because they're a back-up doesn't make them a good back-up. By using this logic, every draft by every team is THE AWEZOMES.

12-13-2012, 04:54 PM	#69
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,503	Kyle Wilson, average? Are you kiddin' me? Definitely sub-par.

12-13-2012, 05:04 PM	#70
3rd_Times_A_Charm Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 397	I know you guys think that I'm crazy but I'm telling you with 100% certainty that you are the crazy ones. Tearing into your own guys like this for no reason... What has Kyle Wilson done this year that's SO BAD? Shonn Greene? Bilal Powell? These kids are all players with good potential. Obviously some haven't been playing up to their potential at points this season but that happens to all teams. You all just look at the glass half empty, there's no other way to say it.

12-13-2012, 05:05 PM	#71
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,169	I would not put it past Mike T to try and get in a little grass roots image polishing on these boards. Look Ma! And they said you could not polish a turd. This not about if he has to go at this point but rather the timing and manner of the when.

12-13-2012, 05:07 PM	#73
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,480

12-13-2012, 05:09 PM	#74
3rd_Times_A_Charm Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 397	McGinley - that's like the 3rd time you posted that. No one laughed the first or the second times. Three strikes and you're out buddy.

12-13-2012, 05:13 PM	#75
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,480

12-13-2012, 05:18 PM	#77
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,300

12-13-2012, 05:23 PM	#78
3rd_Times_A_Charm Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 397	Funny thing is, you guys are the same people who were sucking this team's proverbial **** after the first Buffalo win. I'm sure you were all amazed at how great Sanchez, Hill, and Greene were. You guys just are too emotional and you get caught up in the pendulum. Luckily for us, our pendulum is swinging back to HOT at the right time.

12-13-2012, 05:25 PM	#79
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,300	Look at the roster at the beginning of the Rex/Tanny era and then look at the roster now. Downgrades in every single unity except for CB and Safety.