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JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ARodFLKeysJetsFan

Click the link slick, they are ranked 7th in total offense - we are nowhere near that.....actually after I just looked, we are ranked 30th in total offense.

Hey joker. They are in the top offense like we are are top defense. You didn't get that?

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsfanfromtheBURGH

Hey joker. They are in the top offense like we are are top defense. You didn't get that?

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They are ranked in the top half just like we are. Come on dude. Get real

Not out of that statement I didn't.

I failed mind-reading in college, sorry......

sameoldjets · 12-13-2012, 07:13 PM

manish needs to read what he writes. 10 sacks in 5 games isn't as good as 22 in 8 games. i know what he means and it just shows that sacks aren't the only thing that defines a pass rush.

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Rex Ryan and Mike Pettine's defense has NY Jets playoff hopes alive, despite losing star CB Darrelle Revis to season ending injury

If Gang Green is going to complete the tough task of grabbing an AFC playoff spot, it will be the defense that will take them there.

By Manish Mehta / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Published: Wednesday, December 12, 2012, 10:01 PM

Updated: Thursday, December 13, 2012, 12:56 AM.
New York Daily News

Bart Scott (l.) and David Harris show Cardinals QB Ryan Lindley that the Jets defense is still to be feared.

When Woody Johnson examines the good, bad and ugly from the 2012 season in a few weeks, he should know this: The Jets were still in the playoff conversation down the stretch, thanks to a defense that re-established itself as the team’s backbone.

Strip away all the Barnum & Bailey-style allusions from the past nine months and the reality is that Rex Ryan and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine positioned the Jets to have some hope during the final month of the season.

Ryan’s trust in Pettine has been one of the most critical — and overlooked — elements of the Jets’ resurgence after a midseason swoon threatened to banish them to irrelevance. The Jets (6-7) must win out and get some help to make the postseason, but they still have a heartbeat thanks, in large part, to a defense that has moved from 19th to eighth in the rankings in the past two weeks.

Those who try to marginalize the statistical leap by noting the inferior competition (Cardinals and Jaguars) in recent games conveniently ignore that the Jets had the toughest schedule in the NFL through the first 12 weeks. News flash: There are soft parts of every team’s schedule. The Jets just happened to have a front-loaded degree of difficulty.

“We can’t worry about who we play or what they have on offense or their personnel or anything like that,” safety Yeremiah Bell said. “We want to come out and dominate no matter who it is. And if people want to say they’re under par, then they’re under par, but as a group and as a defense we have to come out and take care of business so we can get momentum going into the next week.”

The most critical about-face has come on third down, which has made all the difference. The Jets allowed a head-scratching 45% third-down conversion rate through the first eight games. In the five games since the bye, opponents are converting just 30.7% on third down, including for two of the last 31 attempts.

Gang Green also has ramped up its pass rush since the bye, recording 10 sacks in the last five games after recording 22 in the first eight games.

The Jets, winners of three of their last four, have fed off their defensive energy much like they did during their back-to-back AFC Championship Game runs in 2009 and 2010. The defensive success in the past three wins has been eye-opening: Ryan and Pettine’s defense forced 18 three-and-outs in 39 drives — or 46% of the time. The Jets allowed 29 points (9.7 points per game) and forced six turnovers in those victories.

Although the resurgent running game has helped keep the offense afloat, the dearth of talent and depth at the skill positions has been the primary reason for the team’s struggles.

The best chance that the Jets have to run the table is to lean on a defense that Mike DeVito said has become “reminiscent of 2009 and 2010” when the Jets finished first and third in the rankings.

“Everything works on momentum,” said DeVito, a defensive end. “If you get momentum going and you get confidence going... it’s really encouraging because the ball gets rolling and now we’re out there playing with a swagger. I feel like going forward that we can put that defense on the field like we have the past two weeks. We’ve seen spurts all year that we can be extremely dominant.”

Pettine and Ryan have proven to be schematic wizards again, elevating a defense that had perennial All-Pro cornerback Darrelle Revis for a grand total of six quarters this season.

Thanks to innovative weekly designs, the Jets rank fourth in the NFL in pass defense despite losing arguably the best defensive player in the league. They haven’t allowed a 100-yard game by a wide receiver this season.

The defense has carried the Jets even without a dominant pass rusher or game changer. Mo Wilkerson, a rising star in the front seven, and LaRon Landry, the most valuable player in the secondary, have been standouts. Antonio Cromartie has proven that he’s clearly a No. 1 cornerback in the league.

There are no superstars, but it doesn’t seem to matter to Pettine and Ryan. If the Jets have any chance of pulling off a miracle and sneaking into the playoffs, it’ll be up to their defense to dominate and mask all of the deficiencies around it.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2EwdaqLCH

sameoldjets · 12-13-2012, 07:16 PM

not entirely true. they played well against the texans and then in the first patsie game.

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This.

I want them to shut down a top offensive team. They haven't all year.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:18 PM

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not entirely true. they played well against the texans and then in the first patsie game.

How many points did they give up?

Ciaran · 12-13-2012, 07:22 PM

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How many points did they give up?

A decent amount, but they were on the field the whole game. We have a really imbalanced team right now.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:24 PM

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A decent amount, but they were on the field the whole game. We have a really imbalanced team right now.

I agree with that. I'd still like to see them hold a top tier team (not the colts) to basically nothing.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 07:29 PM

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I agree with that. I'd still like to see them hold a top tier team (not the colts) to basically nothing.

So you mean another top tier team then.

Because the Colts with a 9-4 record are a top tier team right now - rookie QB or not....

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:30 PM

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So you mean another top tier team then.

Because the Colts with a 9-4 record are a top tier team right now - rookie QB or not....

Did you not get my last post. Go back re read and then get back to me.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsfanfromtheBURGH

Did you not get my last post. Go back re read and then get back to me.

Not happening.....

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:33 PM

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Not happening.....

Lol, you just did.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 07:34 PM

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Lol, you just did.

Nope....

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:37 PM

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Nope....

Do it!

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 07:48 PM

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Do it!

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 07:49 PM

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Gentlemen's duel. It's a walk off!

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 12-13-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsfanfromtheBURGH

Gentlemen's duel. It's a walk off!

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 12-13-2012, 10:17 PM

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Sure thing brother.

Rexipus Rex · 12-14-2012, 02:13 AM

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The fact that this team will finish around 500 with one of the worst QB's in the league is amazing... Rex and everyone deserve credit for that.

The fact that they had a bottom 5 QB in the league for the 3 years prior and finished with good records is another example.

The Jets have a good coach... He hung in there too long with Sanchez, but all coaches struggle finding a QB.

+1

Beerfish · 12-14-2012, 11:00 AM

For some reason people and perhaps Rex view this as 'Rex's defense' being held down by the Jets offense and special teams.

Rex is the HEAD COACH. It is Rex's defense, Rex's offense, Rex's QB. Rex Ryan is not some poor Dcoordinator saddled with a crap team he is carrying along though perhaps Rex via his father thinks that way. He is just as responsible for the horrible offense as he is for the decent defense.

jetsfan1983 · 12-14-2012, 11:08 AM

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For some reason people and perhaps Rex view this as 'Rex's defense' being held down by the Jets offense and special teams.

Rex is the HEAD COACH. It is Rex's defense, Rex's offense, Rex's QB. Rex Ryan is not some poor Dcoordinator saddled with a crap team he is carrying along though perhaps Rex via his father thinks that way. He is just as responsible for the horrible offense as he is for the decent defense.

Absolutely... But offense these days really comes down to the QB position. He's responsible for who he chose, just like Parcells was responsible for the offense when Mirer was QB.

Finding a QB isn't much of a skill... It's a ton of luck and some of you guys act like it's just a matter of Rex going out there and getting a good QB. It doesn't work that way... YOu don't just go out there and get a good QB.

It's the same thing with Whisenhunt to be honest. He's a solid coach. He just has a complete joke of an offense due to his poor decisions at the QB position. Same thing with Andy Reid. Good coach, just garbage at the QB position.

Belichick is in the same group as them all, except he's not even a good defensive coach. He just got lucky with Brady.

12-14-2012, 11:00 AM	#59
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	For some reason people and perhaps Rex view this as 'Rex's defense' being held down by the Jets offense and special teams. Rex is the HEAD COACH. It is Rex's defense, Rex's offense, Rex's QB. Rex Ryan is not some poor Dcoordinator saddled with a crap team he is carrying along though perhaps Rex via his father thinks that way. He is just as responsible for the horrible offense as he is for the decent defense.