Rob Parker of ESPN questions whether RG3 is really a "brother"

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by bgivs21

genghis khan says hello.

#1 in everyone's Top 10 of History's Greatest Conquerors. Only 3 out of 10 of whom were what would commonly be referred to as "white".

Ten of the greatest: Historical conquerors


By CONN IGGULDEN, Historian and author
UPDATED: 16:01 EST, 4 September 2010

1. GENGHIS KHAN
1162-1227
Originally known as Temüjin of the Borjigin, Genghis was born holding a clot of blood in his hand. His father was khan of a small tribe, but he was murdered when Temüjin was still very young. The new tribal leader wanted nothing to do with Temüjin's family, so with his mother and five other children, Temüjin was cast out and left to die. Of all those in this list, he is the only one to start with nothing. From the most brutal beginning possible, Genghis survived to unite the Mongolian tribes and conquer territories as far apart as Afghanistan and northern China. He left a mountain of skulls that remained for years in China. Genghis Khan paved the way for his grandson Kublai to become emperor of a united China and founder of the Yuan dynasty. In all, Genghis conquered almost four times the lands of Alexander the Great. He is still revered in Mongolia and in parts of China.

2. ALEXANDER THE GREAT
356-323 BC
At different times, Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar and Caligula all visited Alexander's glass tomb in Alexandria, Egypt. Augustus kissed the ancient corpse and accidentally broke the nose; Caligula stole Alexander's breastplate... Alexander was born a prince of Macedonia and tutored by Aristotle. By the age of 22, he had conquered Greece and set sail to Asia Minor. Here, in what is now central Turkey, he cut in half the famous Gordian Knot, fulfilling a Greek legend that whoever unravelled it would rule the world. In Syria, he destroyed the armies of Darius III and gained control of the entire Eastern Mediterranean coast. He entered Egypt as a liberator. From there, he fought in India, where his legendary horse Bucephalus was killed. He was still on campaign at the age of 33 when a fever destroyed his health. At the time his empire stretched from Greece to northern India.


3. TAMERLANE
1336-1405
'Timur the Lame' was born in modern day Uzbekistan, about 400 miles north of the city of Kabul. He had a slight paralysis down one side as a child, which meant his early career was in politics. Despite being illiterate, he was highly intelligent. He spoke at least three languages and invented a variant of chess. He rose quickly to become senior minister to the Mongol khan, then Tamerlane overthrew the khan and began a reign of warfare, slaughter and, yes, mountains of skulls. Tamerlane revered Genghis and claimed to be descended from his second son. He used the city of Samarkand as his base, which Genghis himself had conquered. From there, Tamerlane conquered Persia, Armenia, Georgia and part of Russia.

4. ATILLA THE HUN
406-453
The man known as 'The Scourge of God' inherited his throne in modern day Hungary in AD 434. He began his rule by slaughtering Goth tribes in modernday Germany and Austria, then attacked the enfeebled Roman empire. At one point Atilla offered to marry the Western Emperor's sister, but made it clear that the dowry would be half her brother's lands. This splendid offer was refused. 'The whole breadth of Europe... was at once invaded, and occupied and desolated, by the myriads of barbarians whom Atilla led into the field,' wrote Edward Gibbon in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Atilla ruled territories from Germany to the Caspian Sea for almost 20 years. On his wedding night, he drank heavily and passed out. Whether it was a nosebleed or a rupture, Atilla choked to death on his own blood.

5. CHARLEMAGNE
742-814
Charles the Great, King of the Franks, ruled a European empire based mainly around France, Germany and parts of Italy. Although he could not write, he spoke Teutonic, Latin and Greek. He was 6ft 4in, a monstrous height for the period, which has since been confirmed by measurement of his skeleton. Oddly, his father was known as Pepin the Short and was around 5ft tall. Charlemagne's first campaign came at the age of 27, when the Pope sought his aid in repelling the Lombards of Italy. Charlemagne smashed them in the field and took the crown of Lombardy as his own. From his capital of Aachen in modern-day Germany, he went on to fight 53 campaigns, most of which he led himself. He defended a Christian Europe from Muslim Saracens and pagan Saxons, often beheading thousands in a single day. He died aged 72 from a fever.

6. PHARAOH THUTMOSE III OF EGYPT
1479-1425 BC
Responsible for the obelisk known as Cleopatra's Needle on the bank of the Thames, Thutmose III never lost a battle in 18 summer campaigns. He was one of the first rulers to understand supply lines and sea power. Having inherited the throne of Egypt aged seven, he spent the first two decades as co-regent with his father's wife. When she died, he conquered lands in Palestine, Syria, Nubia and Mesopotamia.
It was Thutmose III who established Egypt as a major power in the eastern Mediterranean and his reign was a golden era of temple building and great riches (and he was humane in his treatment of the vanquished). He died aged 61.

7. ASHOKA THE GREAT
304-232 BC
Born to the Mauryan (ancient Indian) imperial house, Ashoka loved to hunt and was a warlike young man, the favourite of his father. When his father died, Ashoka killed all his brothers and went on a brutal rampage to expand the empire. It culminated in the slaughter by the Daya river, where more than 100,000 citizens were killed by his army. Afterwards Ashoka was appalled at the carnage and vowed then to embrace Buddhism. He was a changed man. The laws that followed were relatively just and he set up pillars with his edicts carved on them across India. He even promoted vegetarianism and treated all his subjects as equals regardless of caste. By the time of his death, he ruled India, Pakistan, Nepal and Afghanistan.

8. CYRUS THE GREAT
580-529 BC
Of a minor royal family, Cyrus became the first emperor of Persia, uniting the tribal Medes and Persians. As well as the usual mountains of skulls, he created what may be the first charter of human rights, available to be seen at the British Museum. He freed the Jews in Babylon when he conquered that city. Despite his benevolent side, Cyrus spent years conquering lands, murdering his enemies and establishing a vast empire that stretched from India to Greece.

9. CH'IN SHIH HUANG
259-210 BC
The boy known as Ch'eng inherited a minor throne in China at the age of just 13. As an adult, he was a superb organiser. His achievement was not just in conquering the different regions of China in just nine years, but unifying them as an empire. With two trusted ministers, he established a bureaucracy, taxation, standardised weights and measures and a system of ruthless punishments for lawbreaking. The first emperor of China is perhaps most famous for the terracotta army guarding his tomb. More than 8,000 life-sized warriors were created, as well as 600 horses and 130 chariots. In the centralised government he created, the emperor was almost a figurehead. The structure of government was so successful that when Shih Huang died at 49, his two most powerful ministers carried on without him for four years before they quarrelled and his death became public knowledge.

10. AUGUSTUS CAESAR
63 BC-14 AD
Born Octavian, the great-nephew of Julius Caesar was technically the first Roman emperor. He was made Consul after Caesar's death, then formed a triumvirate with Mark Anthony and Marcus Aemilius Lepidus. They secured their power in Rome by executing thousands. The title Augustus, meaning 'exalted', was granted by the senate. Octavian changed his name to Gaius Julius Caesar to honour his predecessor, creating a tradition that would last 2,000 years - to the German Kaisers and Russian Czars. Augustus was not a battle king. However, under his rule, the Roman empire expanded into Hungary, Croatia and Egypt as well as securing Spain and Gaul. He added more land than Julius Caesar and was worshipped as a god in Rome.

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[DDNYjets]

LOL.

I am going to enjoy watching this discussion devolve.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

PHARAOH THUTMOSE III OF EGYPT

Thutmose III
Robert Griffin III
Thutmose had dark skin
Bob has dark skin
Thutmose was from Africa
Bob's ancestors were from Africa

Mother of God, it can't be ignored any longer..........Thutmose is back and is reigning down terror in the NFL. BAH GAWD.

[JonEJet]

John Ourand ‏@Ourand_SBJ

ESPN: "Rob Parker has been suspended until further notice. We are conducting a full review."

[McGinley]

Chris LaPlaca ‏@espn_chris
Following yesterday’s comments, Rob Parker has been suspended until further notice. We are conducting a full review.


SWEET. JUSTICE.

[JonEJet]

Originally Posted by Green Bandit

+1

Dude should be fired pronto, which he prob will.

ESPN's spokesman @jksports announced Rob Parker has been "suspended until further notice" for his racially-charged comments on @RGIII.

[revischrist]

My only hope is that Parker doesn't find a way to parlay this national attention into greater popularity.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by McGinley

Thutmose III
Robert Griffin III
Thutmose had dark skin
Bob has dark skin
Thutmose was from Africa
Bob's ancestors were from Africa

Mother of God, it can't be ignored any longer..........Thutmose is back and is reigning down terror in the NFL. BAH GAWD.

Little known fact ...Pharaoh Thutmose III went by the nickname PTIII.

[McGinley]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

Little known fact ...Pharaoh Thutmose III went by the nickname PTIII.

MADRE DE DIOS!

[chesapeakejet]

Originally Posted by JonEJet

ESPN's spokesman @jksports announced Rob Parker has been "suspended until further notice" for his racially-charged comments on @RGIII.

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I emailed espn corporate complaining about the racist idiot.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by McGinley

MADRE DE DIOS!

I am certain we are on to something here:

PTIII's mummified head is the spitting image of RGIII

[Vin]

Originally Posted by JonEJet

John Ourand ‏@Ourand_SBJ

ESPN: "Rob Parker has been suspended until further notice. We are conducting a full review."

Wait...what?

ESPN actually DID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?


THEY DIDN'T SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG???



Well now I've seen everything....

[NYJetsro71]

The only cornball brother is Rob Parker!!!!

RG III = Undercover Brother

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

#1 in everyone's Top 10 of History's Greatest Conquerors. Only 3 out of 10 of whom were what would commonly be referred to as "white".

Well, when you leave off such obvious choices as Hitler and Stalin, Napoleon, the Japaneese Emperor Hirohito, or the United States (for Manifest Destiny and the takeover/expansion across North America), what do you expect.

Fail List is Fail.

[GreenWave]

Originally Posted by Untouchable

LOL

So because Griffin can actually form coherent sentences and isn't from the streets, he's too white?

Do some black people actually take pride in being ignorant?

First of all, it's been great to see a thread like this go 90 pages without anyone taking it too far one way or the other. Good discussion here.

The answer to your question is no, but it's still a reasonable question. Unfortunately, our culture still suffers from "crabs in a basket" syndrome, and can't wait to find a reason to tear down people who have done well for themselves. If you stay "real" (I would need 90 pages to define real) then you're left alone, but as soon as you show a sign of adopting anything synonymous with what is interpreted as "white" culture, you're a sellout.

MLK was viewed as a sellout by many. That should tell you something. Unfortunately it will be generations before a guy like me can go to a corporate lunch with 5 white guys (primarily because, that's who I work with) without catching smirks or the stank eye from a couple of dudes who automatically assume I've forgotten who I am.

[chesapeakejet]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Well, when you leave off such obvious choices as Hitler and Stalin, what do you expect.

Fail List is Fail.

Napoleon too.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

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[McGinley]

Originally Posted by SONNY WERBLIN

I am certain we are on to something here:

PTIII's mummified head is the spitting image of RGIII

If you look closely, you can see a very strange mark on Thutmose's forehead



Truly an amazing discovery.

[SONNY WERBLIN]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Well, when you leave off such obvious choices as Hitler and Stalin, Napoleon, or the United States (for Manifest Destiny and the takeover/expansion across North America), what do you expect.

Fail List is Fail.

Not my list bro.... but I'd hate to get in the way of someone's politically correct historical views that stretch back a whole 250 years However, from my perspective your view of history is both Euro-centric and fairly abbreviated (a lot of history prior to the 1700's ya know).

[bgivs21]

Originally Posted by Warfish

Well, when you leave off such obvious choices as Hitler and Stalin, Napoleon, the Japaneese Emperor Hirohito, or the United States (for Manifest Destiny and the takeover/expansion across North America), what do you expect.

Fail List is Fail.

Stalin wasn't really a conqueror per-se. He killed a lot of his own people more so than destroying a whole race on his way world domination.
We can argue all day, but bottom line is we can go through every culture throughout history and find terrible, evil rulers/conquerors who have left massive body counts for world domination.
But Genghis Kahn is by far the worst. He killed nearly 40 million people, 4 times more than Hitler. In fact, Nazi Germany's blitzkrieg was a modern form of warfare that Genghis Kahn himself developed in 12th and 13th century.