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Old 12-13-2012, 02:46 PM   #61
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Are there any choices you can make where the Govt. WOULD enforce your responsabillity for that choice, or no?
If that responsibility is legally bound, yes.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #62
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If abortion were illegal the necessity to carry out a potential pregnancy would be implied though.
It would be legally forced.

That's kind of my whole point, no?
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #63
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The Doctor is.

A service (abortion) is being provided for and a payment is recived, either from the individual, the individuals insurance company, or the Government. Even if no payment is given (i.e. services donated), it's still commerce.



If we follow that logic, a community could equally and legally choose to disallow other services from their community.....like abortion providers, for example.
The doctor is regulated and they could chose to disallow other services if the Supreme Court hadn't decided they couldn't as they did.
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Old 12-13-2012, 02:49 PM   #64
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It would be legally forced.

That's kind of my whole point, no?
Right...
but my whole point was it would be legally forced in the same way the repayment of a loan is legally forced.

*edit*

To be honest though, i can't find an example that doesn't involve a monetary responsible for an action, or (as in Warfish's example) an illegal action. Owing money is different than essentially owing a child, with money you can sell other assets, someone can pay it for you, you can eventually declare bankruptcy, it's not the same. And I'm not sure i buy that consequences for an illegal action are the same either. Being imprisoned for robbing a bank is punishment. It's not legal to rob a bank if you go to prison afterwards, it's illegal to rob a bank therefore you go to prison afterwards, thus that seems different as well.

So, *shrug* I concede.

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Old 12-22-2012, 12:19 AM   #65
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Why do you create issues that don't exist?

What Pro-Choice people are against legalizing prostitution?
+1.

Restrictions on prostitution predate the pro-choice argument. And it's not close. You miss the very obvious fact that the people who object to abortion the most (religious conservatives) are also the people who object to prostitution the most.

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Old 12-22-2012, 02:14 AM   #66
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Just curious, how can one support abortion rights (my body, my choice, state has no right to decide for me what she does with her body, etc) but NOT equally support the right of women to choose to engage in sex for money, i.e. prostitution?

In both cases, it's is 100% use of a womans body, made by the woman in question.

What would then be the rational argument by a Pro-Choice Supporter AGAINTS legalization of prostitution as a protected federal right, same as abortion?
Great question!
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:25 AM   #67
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+1.

Restrictions on prostitution predate the pro-choice argument. And it's not close. You miss the very obvious fact that the people who object to abortion the most (religious conservatives) are also the people who object to prostitution the most.
Nonsense. Find me one feminist who's pro prostitution.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:59 PM   #68
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Nonsense. Find me one feminist who's pro prostitution.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:32 PM   #69
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Nonsense. Find me one feminist who's pro prostitution.
Find me one feminist who is anti-prostitution.

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