Did the o-line tank the game? - Jets Insider.com Forums

K-Met57 · 12-23-2012, 04:32 PM

I am not a conspiracy theorist, and I didn't see the game due to family obligations...but is it possible that the o-line tanked the game because sanchez got benched? 11 sacks doesn't seem logical for a unit with multiple pro bowlers...

lageman4ever · 12-23-2012, 04:35 PM

I doubt it. The sacks are on the rookie QB who was indecisive and took too long on most of his throws. And San Diego was T'd up going after him on every play.

DDNYjets · 12-23-2012, 04:38 PM

A few of the sacks were on McElroy but this was easily the worst game by the Jet OL since Baltimore.

TheMikeIsHot · 12-23-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Met57

I am not a conspiracy theorist, and I didn't see the game due to family obligations...but is it possible that the o-line tanked the game because sanchez got benched? 11 sacks doesn't seem logical for a unit with multiple pro bowlers...

No.

SD knew McElroy couldn't beat them down the field, so they just attacked him from start to finish.

Tai-Mai-Shu · 12-23-2012, 04:55 PM

Stop with the OL is tanking BS. For the OL to play great the QB need to help them out by recognizing certain schemes, blits, protection breakdowns, etc. To say the OL tanked to cover for McElroy is a ***** cop out.

Dunnie · 12-23-2012, 04:57 PM

I don't think so ... I think McElroy is learning how to move in the pocket.

Stillafan · 12-23-2012, 07:28 PM

I thought that it was standard that in every offensive play that there is a receiver like a TE who is five yards out ready for a dump pass in case things collapse. I did not see that with the Jets today. If there were, we might have less sacks and more first downs. McElroy might not have looked so stupid today.

detjetsfan · 12-23-2012, 07:37 PM

No. Our OL just sucks.

Brick - Ok pass protector who has been exposed without a capable blocking TE or RB to help him. He misses Hartsock and LT chipping. Was never a great run blocker.

Slauson - low rent version of Faneca, average run blocker who cannot pass protect. Needs to go.

Mangold - very good Center

Moore - best years are behind him, I want to get bigger, stronger and younger at both Guard spots. Bye Bye

Howard - decent player who looks better just b/c of comparison to inept Hunter. Is cheap and serviceable so he's staying put.

samoljets · 12-23-2012, 08:22 PM

Quarterback was aweful today missed Braylon near midfield. He was wide open for a td.

patman · 12-23-2012, 08:24 PM

There are 3 FA on that oline, and they all said let's decrease our value by getting this kid killed.

simijet · 12-23-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by patman

There are 3 FA on that oline, and they all said let's decrease our value by getting this kid killed.

fltflo · 12-23-2012, 08:47 PM

The Dolts were bringing it all day and our OC did nothing to exploit the rush. If we would have worked some screens to Powell and McKnight it may have force them to back off a bit. While GMac ate the ball many times today the O game plan and the O line left much to be desired. They damn well knew this was the kid's first start and sure as hell did not give him much time to see the field.
I see big changes coming on both sides of the ball and another year of poor football for the NYJets before we begin to see improvement

canadianjetsfan · 12-23-2012, 08:49 PM

I don’t think the O line went out today with the intent of stinking up the joint.
But they did seem completely demoralized when Rex decided not to go for it on 4th and short early in the 3rd quarter.
It was a meaningless game to begin with. All that’s left to play for is pride.
To not put the outcome of the game squarley on the backs of his O-Line delivered the wrong message.
Once again, nice call Rex.

McElroy14 · 12-23-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

A few of the sacks were on McElroy but this was easily the worst game by the Jet OL since Baltimore.

agreed, the oline played terrible. I watched the whole game and looked at it. A few of his sacks were his fault that's true, but when you literally have 2 seconds that is just insane. Difference was Sanchez would sit in the pocket and never throw the ball and take the sack, Greg literally had no time for a lot of the day. Still he did not show enough to answer any doubts. He will have to have a great game next week to convince us otherwise.

Vin · 12-23-2012, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by samoljets

Quarterback was aweful today missed Braylon near midfield. He was wide open for a td.

Yeah I know but at the same time, the O-line wasn't doing Greg any favors.

Still, though....You would think that a Rookie would IMMEDIATELY look for the Tallest/Biggest Receiver out there and throw it to him 90% of the time but instead he's throwing to other JAGS like Gates and Schillens.....

GenoT · 12-24-2012, 07:16 AM

Ferguson hasn't given up a sack all year. but he's just okay.yeah right

Greentide · 12-24-2012, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by samoljets

Quarterback was aweful today missed Braylon near midfield. He was wide open for a td.

Awful? Really? First NFL start, completion % above 50%? Don't agree, under the circumstance he did well. Sanchez led Jets probably get shutout.

patman · 12-24-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vin

Yeah I know but at the same time, the O-line wasn't doing Greg any favors.

Still, though....You would think that a Rookie would IMMEDIATELY look for the Tallest/Biggest Receiver out there and throw it to him 90% of the time but instead he's throwing to other JAGS like Gates and Schillens.....

Schillens is the tallest/biggest receiver

eaglenj · 12-24-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fltflo

The Dolts were bringing it all day and our OC did nothing to exploit the rush. If we would have worked some screens to Powell and McKnight it may have force them to back off a bit. While GMac ate the ball many times today the O game plan and the O line left much to be desired. They damn well knew this was the kid's first start and sure as hell did not give him much time to see the field.
I see big changes coming on both sides of the ball and another year of poor football for the NYJets before we begin to see improvement

Very good call....it is amazing how inept sparano is.

Greene had arguably the longest catch and run ive ever seen him have on that first screen pass. We got 10+ yards and a first down on the misdirection play to hayden smith. Did we keep doing that to combat the man coverage downfield and SD Blitz? NOPE

Instead, with WRs that we knew could not get separation and no good TE option, we continued to try to have mcelroy drop back like he is jay cutler and throw it downfield....absolutely a despicable game plan.

Sparano needs to go more then rex, tanny, etc. Our offense has less innovation then half the high school teams in the county

nycuse · 12-24-2012, 09:11 AM

Get ready for slausen and ducasse as starting guards next year. You know it's coming.

12-23-2012, 04:32 PM	#1
K-Met57 Jets 38 Bills 17 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,175	Did the o-line tank the game? I am not a conspiracy theorist, and I didn't see the game due to family obligations...but is it possible that the o-line tanked the game because sanchez got benched? 11 sacks doesn't seem logical for a unit with multiple pro bowlers...

12-23-2012, 07:28 PM	#7
Stillafan A fan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 113	I am sorry but I never saw I thought that it was standard that in every offensive play that there is a receiver like a TE who is five yards out ready for a dump pass in case things collapse. I did not see that with the Jets today. If there were, we might have less sacks and more first downs. McElroy might not have looked so stupid today.

12-23-2012, 04:35 PM	#2
lageman4ever Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,153	I doubt it. The sacks are on the rookie QB who was indecisive and took too long on most of his throws. And San Diego was T'd up going after him on every play.

12-23-2012, 04:38 PM	#3
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,236	A few of the sacks were on McElroy but this was easily the worst game by the Jet OL since Baltimore.

12-23-2012, 04:55 PM	#5
Tai-Mai-Shu Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 123	Stop with the OL is tanking BS. For the OL to play great the QB need to help them out by recognizing certain schemes, blits, protection breakdowns, etc. To say the OL tanked to cover for McElroy is a ***** cop out.

12-23-2012, 04:57 PM	#6
Dunnie still waiting ... All League Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,180	I don't think so ... I think McElroy is learning how to move in the pocket.

12-23-2012, 07:37 PM	#8
detjetsfan Supports Coach Ryan All League Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 3,999	No. Our OL just sucks. Brick - Ok pass protector who has been exposed without a capable blocking TE or RB to help him. He misses Hartsock and LT chipping. Was never a great run blocker. Slauson - low rent version of Faneca, average run blocker who cannot pass protect. Needs to go. Mangold - very good Center Moore - best years are behind him, I want to get bigger, stronger and younger at both Guard spots. Bye Bye Howard - decent player who looks better just b/c of comparison to inept Hunter. Is cheap and serviceable so he's staying put.

12-23-2012, 08:22 PM	#9
samoljets I'll help Tebow pack and drive him to the airport, just get rid of him already! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 108	Quarterback was aweful today missed Braylon near midfield. He was wide open for a td.

12-23-2012, 08:24 PM	#10
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,154	There are 3 FA on that oline, and they all said let's decrease our value by getting this kid killed.

12-23-2012, 08:47 PM	#12
fltflo Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 311	The Dolts were bringing it all day and our OC did nothing to exploit the rush. If we would have worked some screens to Powell and McKnight it may have force them to back off a bit. While GMac ate the ball many times today the O game plan and the O line left much to be desired. They damn well knew this was the kid's first start and sure as hell did not give him much time to see the field. I see big changes coming on both sides of the ball and another year of poor football for the NYJets before we begin to see improvement

12-23-2012, 08:49 PM	#13
canadianjetsfan Meet the new boss, same as the old boss... Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 349	I don’t think the O line went out today with the intent of stinking up the joint. But they did seem completely demoralized when Rex decided not to go for it on 4th and short early in the 3rd quarter. It was a meaningless game to begin with. All that’s left to play for is pride. To not put the outcome of the game squarley on the backs of his O-Line delivered the wrong message. Once again, nice call Rex.

12-24-2012, 07:16 AM	#16
GenoT Rookie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 631	Ferguson hasn't given up a sack all year. but he's just okay.yeah right

12-24-2012, 09:11 AM	#20
nycuse Veteran Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,291	Get ready for slausen and ducasse as starting guards next year. You know it's coming.