Rex isn't going anywhere, Tanny could get help, regime gets 1 one year...

[copernicus]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Therapy for what?

We all lost this year, the team failed, but the answer shouldn't always be, **** this, and **** that, **** the coach, **** the QB, **** everything, blow it all up.

As fans we need to be smarter than that, we need to understand that there are reasons teams struggle. It's difficult to win in this league, even the best coaches in the history of football all lost at some point, had bad years, etc etc. Turning over the front office and the roster all the time does not help.

I chose to believe the current regime deserves a chance to right the ship, and based on 2 AFCCG's, they deserve that opportunity.

How you cant see the obvious is beyond many of us.

There is almost a reason, sometimes two reasons daily as to why the JETS need to fire everyone and somehow replace their owner.

Today Rex Ryan dressed Tim Tebow after Time Tebow went to the coach and said DONT PLAY ME!!!!!....

Are you kidding me? This HC deserves another chance?

The most pathetic organization in all of sports!

What an embarrassment........

I hate you Woody Johnson for what you've done to my team

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

You're completely delusional and out of your mind. You seriously need help.

Say's the jackass who once again chimes into another one of my threads just to pick a fight because you're still butthurt over past exchanges..

Get over yourself already.

Disagree with me all you want, I have no issue with people who don't see my perspective, it's the beauty of the message board.

But in your case, and a couple of others, act like an ass, just because, and I'll give it back.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by copernicus

How you cant see the obvious is beyond many of us.

There is almost a reason, sometimes two reasons daily as to why the JETS need to fire everyone and somehow replace their owner.

Today Rex Ryan dressed Tim Tebow after Time Tebow went to the coach and said DONT PLAY ME!!!!!....

The most pathetic organization in all of sports!

What an embarrassment........

I hate you Woody Johnson for what you've done to my team

You have a complete inability to see anything past your agenda

You once used the Steelers in one of your rants about "model organizations," I guess not this year, eh?

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by copernicus

How you cant see the obvious is beyond many of us.

There is almost a reason, sometimes two readons daily as to why the JETS need to fire everyone and somehow replace their owner.

Today Rex Ryan dressed Tim Tebow after Time Tebow went to the coach and said DONT PLAY ME!!!!!....

The most pathetic organization in all of sports!

What an embarrassment........

I hate you Woody Johnson for what you've done to my team

John Gruden was baffled by the Jets offense Monday night. Bewildered. Laughing in disbelief.

And when Bill Cowher states that your team is dysfunctional, it's pretty telling.

And I don't think either one wants any part of this mess.

[Jason423]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

We crossed posts, but I already gave my response to the other poster. It's complete crap.

So we should ignore the Giants and Steelers implosion because they have won SB's? Really?

I just don't get how anybody with a straight face can suggest this...

Why do the 2 AFCCG's Rex took this Jets team two years ago get thrown away, but it's ok for the Giants and Steelers to completely implode the way they have and get a pass, and the Jets not?

This makes NO sense... None!

My point isn't to defend the Jets peformance, they failed, they have failed the season. We as fans should be unhappy, never once suggested we should not, but why blow it up just because? What alternatives are out there? I asked the same about the Giants and Steelers, because the seasons of all 3 teams are the same, yet, you same posters do not think they should blow things up, only the Jets...

Sorry, but that is flat out tunnel vision and logic that makes no sense.

I think its the fact that they are back to back poor seasons and this year they arent even competing. You have to look at some of these games. I mean to go out and beat a Cardinal team by 1 that goes and loses by over 50 and to lose to a Titan team that loses by 48 is a sign of things that are awful. The Jets will beat all of 1 team in their last 32 games with a 9 win or better season. It might be 2 teams with a winning record if the Rams win next week to finish 8-7-1. Thats two years of inept football. They have to move on from some of this talent base even if the coach stays.

As for the other teams I think they get a pass because they made the playoffs last season, with one winning the Super Bowl. I think you have to seriously look at the makeup of a team when its two years in a row, though the warning signs were there with the Jets last season.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Say's the jackass who once again chimes into another one of my threads just to pick a fight because you're still butthurt over past exchanges..

Get over yourself already.

Disagree with me all you want, I have no issue with people who don't see my perspective, it's the beauty of the message board.

But in your case, and a couple of others, act like an ass, just because, and I'll give it back.

[Winstonbiggs]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Why do the 2 AFCCG's Rex took this Jets team two years ago get thrown away, but it's ok for the Giants and Steelers to completely implode the way they have and get a pass, and the Jets not?

This makes NO sense... None!

The Giants played alot more meaningful games then the Jets have this year including a SB victory. More media attention, more late games, tougher schedule more demands on players and coaches that aren't football related. The Jets had the luxury of no playoff games and a one of the easiest schedules in the league.

You can bet Coughlin will be on a short leash if the Giants don't make the playoffs this year and next year.

The Jets have been among the worst teams in football since they started their collapse last year. Rex should be on a short leash and Tanny has been trying to replace Pennington since 06 using a 2 on Clemens and moving up for Sanchez. When your have 2 bad years in a row and you draft two busts over a 6 year period at QB you deserve to be on very thin ice.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

John Gruden was baffled by the Jets offense Monday night. Bewildered. Laughing in disbelief.

And when Bill Cowher states that your team is dysfunctional, it's pretty telling.

And I don't think either one wants any part of this mess.

Gruden is a tool, who latches on the media's flavor of the week to develop his mantra on MNF, this is common knowledge, his tales mean crap.

It took Bill Cowher how many years to finally win a SB? Do you think he makes it past 4 years with the Jets?

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Gruden is a tool, who latches on the media's flavor of the week to develop his mantra on MNF, this is common knowledge, his tales mean crap.

It took Bill Cowher how many years to finally win a SB? Do you think he makes it past 4 years with the Jets?

And that makes their comments non-credible?

I suppose you are more knowledgeable?

[Gas2No99]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

You have a complete inability to see anything past your agenda

You once used the Steelers in one of your rants about "model organizations," I guess not this year, eh?

WOW!

He's not knocking you, but expressing what a lot of people just don't get about your posts. Your entitled to your position, but that post was NOT pushing an agenda, that was a mere comment on what is plain as sight; as my father says: In the valley of the blind, the cyclops is king. I guess the majority of JI needs to get the white canes out and follow the *** R*y 19 of sunshine that shines on the Jets warts 24/7/365.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs

The Giants played alot more meaningful games then the Jets have this year including a SB victory. More media attention, more late games, tougher schedule more demands on players and coaches that aren't football related. The Jets had the luxury of no playoff games and a one of the easiest schedules in the league.

You can bet Coughlin will be on a short leash if the Giants don't make the playoffs this year and next year.

The Jets have been among the worst teams in football since they started their collapse last year. Rex should be on a short leash and Tanny has been trying to replace Pennington since 06 using a 2 on Clemens and moving up for Sanchez. When your have 2 bad years in a row and you draft two busts over a 6 year period at QB you deserve to be on very thin ice.

Up until the Jags game, the Jets had played the toughest schedule in the league, based on teams' records this year, so that doesn't fly.

The Jets were playing in meaningful games until the Titans game last Monday, the Giants will have had an extra two weeks of meaningful games. The Jets were raked through the coals last year, and played in meaningful games through week 17 of the season.

[copernicus]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

You have a complete inability to see anything past your agenda

You once used the Steelers in one of your rants about "model organizations," I guess not this year, eh?

How in the world could you compare the Steelers and the JETS?

Have you ever played a sport in your life?

Mike Thomlinson and Steeler ownership have class and integrity, it is a large part of the blue print for success in sports and in life.

After a year where there was so much controversy as to who should dress at QB, Rex Ryan dressed Tim Tebow after he went to Ryan and refused to play.

If a high school athlete ever went to the HC and told him dont play me that kid would be asked to hand in his uniform.

The only place in the world where this doesnt happpen is on the NY JETS.

Call the JETS idiots and tell the HC you dont want to play and it will guarantee you a roster spot on the NY JETS roster!!

How in the world can you defend this?

[thebigragu]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

We crossed posts, but I already gave my response to the other poster. It's complete crap.

So we should ignore the Giants and Steelers implosion because they have won SB's? Really?

I just don't get how anybody with a straight face can suggest this...

Why do the 2 AFCCG's Rex took this Jets team two years ago get thrown away, but it's ok for the Giants and Steelers to completely implode the way they have and get a pass, and the Jets not?

This makes NO sense... None!

My point isn't to defend the Jets peformance, they failed, they have failed the season. We as fans should be unhappy, never once suggested we should not, but why blow it up just because? What alternatives are out there? I asked the same about the Giants and Steelers, because the seasons of all 3 teams are the same, yet, you same posters do not think they should blow things up, only the Jets...

Sorry, but that is flat out tunnel vision and logic that makes no sense.

Two AFC championships that were LOST. Why you defend absolute failure is beyond me. They failed and they're ****ing fired. Best you can come up with is losing two afc championships? That's the shiny star on the resume. Get a grip.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Gas2No99

WOW!

He's not knocking you, but expressing what a lot of people just don't get about your posts. Your entitled to your position, but that post was NOT pushing an agenda, that was a mere comment on what is plain as sight; as my father says: In the valley of the blind, the cyclops is king. I guess the majority of JI needs to get the white canes out and follow the *** R*y 19 of sunshine that shines on the Jets warts 24/7/365.

Cop has spent the entire season whining about the owner, and over-exaggerating the real problems with this team, making our owner and front office out to be something much worse than they actually are. It's over dramatization at its best, it's been this way since week 1. It's crap.

Do I have an agenda? No, not really, I have an opinion, you disagree, no problem. But when I offer a comparison to another team, and you then label me unobjective, that too, is crap!!!

[Gas2No99]

Originally Posted by Jason423

I think its the fact that they are back to back poor seasons and this year they arent even competing. You have to look at some of these games. I mean to go out and beat a Cardinal team by 1 that goes and loses by over 50 and to lose to a Titan team that loses by 48 is a sign of things that are awful. The Jets will beat all of 1 team in their last 32 games with a 9 win or better season. It might be 2 teams with a winning record if the Rams win next week to finish 8-7-1. Thats two years of inept football. They have to move on from some of this talent base even if the coach stays.

As for the other teams I think they get a pass because they made the playoffs last season, with one winning the Super Bowl. I think you have to seriously look at the makeup of a team when its two years in a row, though the warning signs were there with the Jets last season.

An EVEN MORE ELOQUENT argument reiterating what the Sunshine fails to see about our woeful team.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Cop has spent the entire season whining about the owner, and over-exaggerating the real problems with this team, making our owner and front office out to be something much worse than they actually are. It's over dramatization at its best, it's been this way since week 1. It's crap.

Do I have an agenda? No, not really, I have an opinion, you disagree, no problem. But when I offer a comparison to another team, and you then label me unobjective, that too, is crap!!!

Wrong. It was real talk. Something you can't grasp and comprehend.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

And that makes their comments non-credible?

I suppose you are more knowledgeable?

Everybody has an opinion, it doesn't mean they are all credible.

[jetswinbaby!]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Gruden is a tool, who latches on the media's flavor of the week to develop his mantra on MNF, this is common knowledge, his tales mean crap.

It took Bill Cowher how many years to finally win a SB? Do you think he makes it past 4 years with the Jets?

The Ravens, a 10 win team, already guaranteed a playoff birth, fire their OC mid-season just to shake things up when they feel things aren't going just right...

And yet you still cling to the belief that a big shake-up isn't warranted with the Jets after this disastrous season...

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

Wrong. It was real talk. Something you can't grasp and comprehend.

I'm not wrong, in fact, I'm absolutely right. I'm not the only one who has taken issue with Cop and his oscar award winning dramatization agenda with the everything the Jets do.

[jetssjumets]

Originally Posted by frankiepapa

Look...as bad as we have been this year...we were a dropped pass away from beating NE in NE. We handed teams games all year long...look at Seattle...red zone int, fumbled punt and it was a loss...at Pitt...terrible defense by Cro, fumbled punt and a terrible loss...at Tennessee, we were a -5 in turnovers...on the road and had a shot....this thing can be turned around and it won't take a complete retooling...just get back to football and get back to basics...get rid of tebow, get healthy, stop shooting ourselves in the foot and let's win some games next year...will most likely have a third place schedule so that might give us a tiny break but let's hope there aren't too many crazy moves because I don't think that is the best solution for anyone

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totally agree. just look at cincy, minnesota, seattle, houston, washington, denver, san fran, etc. each of those respective teams were in bad shape, some would argue dire, as we went to the afcg for the 2nd season. Many of those teams retooled through the draft and FA. Jets have the same opportunity. Just need to make the most of it.