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McElroy14 · 12-24-2012, 10:23 AM

Ken was a good Qb like mentioned, he didn't have a good line but he did have weapons. However he was a bad pick just because we could've have Marino.

MnJetFan · 12-24-2012, 11:09 AM

Double didgt sacks in one game and somehow it is McElroys fault? Lets look at our o-line 2 first round draft picks and they still suck. No running game and they cant pass block. What a frigging joke of a team. Time for London for the Yets!

Zombo · 12-24-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LanceMehl

Honestly you never saw Ken O'brien play if you can compare him to Mcelroy. Thats not even funny. O'brien could throw the ball.

True that. O'Brien had a freakin cannon for an arm. Every game it seemed you were guaranteed a 50-60 yard shot down the field, and the ball shot out like a rocket. Man, could he throw. He did hold the ball too long, but when he threw it he hit the mark. Very low int rate.

jet-sec125 · 12-24-2012, 01:37 PM

Pat Ryan was better than Mclelroy.

JetsMike · 12-24-2012, 01:47 PM

So was Glenn Foley

Savage69 · 12-24-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jet-sec125

Pat Ryan was better than Mclelroy.

Pat Ryan didn't have the problem with the O-line that KO did..

JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF · 12-24-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cooler King

This is giving me flashbacks to Ken O'Brien...holds the ball WAY too long and takes sacks...I can't watch that act again !!....NEXT !!!

????? Kenny O'Brien had a cannon for an arm, he could throw a football close to 90 yards in the air, I don't know if McElroy could hit 50.

Was a shame that he had no OLine and that he didn't have that 6th sense about feeling the rush and sliding like Marino (who wasn't any faster than O'Brien), his release was also much slower than Marino (who came as close to Namath as anyone.

But there was no mistaking that Kenny O was a starting QB in the NFL, even with his faults...McElroy is NOT...nor is Sanchez...nor is Tebow..unreal 3 QBs on a NY roster you can say that about...disgrace.

jet-sec125 · 12-24-2012, 02:25 PM

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...O/OBriKe00.htm

JetsMike · 12-24-2012, 02:38 PM

As bad has Sanchez has played he is a better QB then Mclelroy I'm sure Tebow is as well. the Jets need to look elsewhere for a new QB

JetsFanatic · 12-24-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage69

Pat Ryan didn't have the problem with the O-line that KO did..

I make that point all the time.

VonDarkmoor · 12-24-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LanceMehl

Honestly you never saw Ken O'brien play if you can compare him to Mcelroy. Thats not even funny. O'brien could throw the ball.

Looks like G Mac can take a hit just like Kenny could. He also seems like Kenny as he takes far more hits than necessary due to not getting rid of the ball when no one is open. Comparison ends there. From a sheer accuracy standpoint, Kenny O was one of the best Jet QBs ever.

Foggy · 12-24-2012, 05:15 PM

Ken O'Brien is still hearing footsteps...

If he was on the Jets today, I have no doubt we'd be in the playoffs. He had uncanny accuracy in his throws, when he had time to set & throw. The Jets had other issues back then. Quarterback play wasn't one of them.

From Wikipedia-
Only one quarterback has accomplished a perfect passer rating with more than 400 passing yards. Ken O'Brien threw for 431 yards on November 2, 1986...

JetsFanatic · 12-24-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Foggy

Ken O'Brien is still hearing footsteps...

If he was on the Jets today, I have no doubt we'd be in the playoffs. He had uncanny accuracy in his throws, when he had time to set & throw. The Jets had other issues back then. Quarterback play wasn't one of them.

From Wikipedia-
Only one quarterback has accomplished a perfect passer rating with more than 400 passing yards. Ken O'Brien threw for 431 yards on November 2, 1986...

It shows, look at all the playoff games he won.

Savage69 · 12-24-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsFanatic

It shows, look at all the playoff games he won.

Kenny is the only Jet QB in history that has no rushing TD's.. Namath could hardly walk and had 7..

Kenny had 2 good years 85 and 86..

billygreen · 12-25-2012, 08:47 AM

McElroy was sacked 11 TIMES and still completed almost 60% of his passes...

Show me any quarterback at any time in the NFL who would have done any better than that? Get off the kids case, he was thrown into a really bad situation the other day. You can't say anything about his QB skills other than he can take a massive amount of hits and still manage to get the ball to his receivers. Sanchez or Pennington would have faired much much worse.

sackdance · 12-25-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Cooler King

This is giving me flashbacks to Ken O'Brien...holds the ball WAY too long and takes sacks...I can't watch that act again !!....NEXT !!!

McElroy couldn't hold O'Brien's jock.

ASH_1962 · 12-25-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JB1089

McElroy can't dream of making the throws that O'Brien did. Get out of here with that.

Thank you

These guys are deluded and flat our wrong. Kenny O went toe to toe with the likes of Dan Marino several times, even coming out on top many of those games.

Savage69 · 12-25-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ASH_1962

Thank you

These guys are deluded and flat our wrong. Kenny O went toe to toe with the likes of Dan Marino several times, even coming out on top many of those games.

KO had a much better team..

Joe W. Namath · 12-25-2012, 11:23 AM

Ken Obeien made 2 pro bowls while playing in the same conference as marino, elway, jim kelly etc.

Thats pretty impressive.

Savage69 · 12-25-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Ken Obeien made 2 pro bowls while playing in the same conference as marino, elway, jim kelly etc.

Thats pretty impressive.

Kenny deserved it in 1985 however in 1991 he had 10 tds and 11 picks on a 8-8 Jet team that lost to the then Houston Oilers 17-10.. That's why the Pro Bowl selection is at times faulty..

12-24-2012, 10:23 AM	#21
McElroy14 Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 46	Ken was a good Qb like mentioned, he didn't have a good line but he did have weapons. However he was a bad pick just because we could've have Marino.

12-24-2012, 11:09 AM	#22
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,309	Double didgt sacks in one game and somehow it is McElroys fault? Lets look at our o-line 2 first round draft picks and they still suck. No running game and they cant pass block. What a frigging joke of a team. Time for London for the Yets!

12-24-2012, 01:37 PM	#24
jet-sec125 Idzik or Idiot to be determined Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,302	Pat Ryan was better than Mclelroy.

12-24-2012, 01:47 PM	#25
JetsMike Chillin All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,244	So was Glenn Foley

12-24-2012, 02:25 PM	#28
jet-sec125 Idzik or Idiot to be determined Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,302	http://www.pro-football-reference.co...O/OBriKe00.htm

12-24-2012, 02:38 PM	#29
JetsMike Chillin All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,244	As bad has Sanchez has played he is a better QB then Mclelroy I'm sure Tebow is as well. the Jets need to look elsewhere for a new QB

12-24-2012, 05:15 PM	#32
Foggy Lifer Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 94	Ken O'Brien is still hearing footsteps... If he was on the Jets today, I have no doubt we'd be in the playoffs. He had uncanny accuracy in his throws, when he had time to set & throw. The Jets had other issues back then. Quarterback play wasn't one of them. From Wikipedia- Only one quarterback has accomplished a perfect passer rating with more than 400 passing yards. Ken O'Brien threw for 431 yards on November 2, 1986...

12-25-2012, 08:47 AM	#35
billygreen Veteran Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,033	McElroy was sacked 11 TIMES and still completed almost 60% of his passes... Show me any quarterback at any time in the NFL who would have done any better than that? Get off the kids case, he was thrown into a really bad situation the other day. You can't say anything about his QB skills other than he can take a massive amount of hits and still manage to get the ball to his receivers. Sanchez or Pennington would have faired much much worse.

12-25-2012, 11:23 AM	#39
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,866	Ken Obeien made 2 pro bowls while playing in the same conference as marino, elway, jim kelly etc. Thats pretty impressive.