Was 11 sacks payback to McElroy? - Jets Insider.com Forums

jetman in indy · 12-27-2012, 02:39 PM

I have to ask this question because after watching the game again, at no time this year was there any kind of jailbreak even close to what McElroy saw last Sunday. I've tried to blame it on indecision, receivers, blitz pickups etc.,. Even against the Niners at home this year Sanchez was harassed but nothing like this. The Chargers absolutely do not have that good of a pass rush folks. Usually if it looks like s***, smells like s***, it is s***!

Right after the game there was a thread on here asking if the oline packed it in and I never read the thread so I don't know if anybody touched on whether or not it may have been about McElroy running his mouth last year as a rookie. Anyway, the line nearly got this kid seriously hurt last week and I do personally put it all on the line.

RazorJet · 12-27-2012, 02:46 PM

They have been cowards all year and if they gave minimal effort last Sunday, they should be fined.

heymangold · 12-27-2012, 02:47 PM

The whole offensive line Lomas Brown'ed him?

jetsfan1983 · 12-27-2012, 02:48 PM

McElroy got sacked a bunch but more than half of them had to do with him holding the ball far too long...

He's always done it. Look back at his college numbers. One thing the guy has always done is take sacks.

jetman in indy · 12-27-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

McElroy got sacked a bunch but more than half of them had to do with him holding the ball far too long...

He's always done it. Look back at his college numbers. One thing the guy has always done is take sacks.

McElroy did not hold the ball too long. Sure he could have did a Sanchez and threw it to a unopen receiver for a pick but he was trying to protect the ball unlike Sanchez. But even on the throws where your thinking he held the ball too long he didn't. He didn't even have time to make his progressions and then throw it away. Watch the game again if you can bare it....lol

Nike · 12-27-2012, 03:00 PM

with this organization anything is possible.

lets hope our future gets brighter monday morning.

do the right thing woody................clean house.

ken shroy · 12-27-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by heymangold

The whole offensive line Lomas Brown'ed him?

jetman in indy · 12-27-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ken shroy

LOL!

usapaw · 12-27-2012, 03:09 PM

I have loved the JETS for 45 years. I hate everything about THIS team as it is currently constructed. I was all for holding out and trying to save Rex and demote Tanny, new OC and a few players but this is the biggest cancer I have seen since Kotite and maybe worse. Rex is a puppet (and sadly not a head coach) and our owner is Al Davis.
I almost hope GMAC gets released and goes to the PATS and Satan (Belly) puts him in the game, like he did with Testeverde and wipes the JETS faces in it.

chrisjets23 · 12-27-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by usapaw

I have loved the JETS for 45 years. I hate everything about THIS team as it is currently constructed. I was all for holding out and trying to save Rex and demote Tanny, new OC and a few players but this is the biggest cancer I have seen since Kotite and maybe worse. Rex is a puppet (and sadly not a head coach) and our owner is Al Davis.
I almost hope GMAC gets released and goes to the PATS and Satan (Belly) puts him in the game, like he did with Testeverde and wipes the JETS faces in it.

I agree with everything you said except that Rex is a puppet. I think all of his decisions and coaching moves are agenda based. He's extremely bull-headed and egotistical (just like his father), but he has a calmer way of showing it to the public & media.

usapaw · 12-27-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisjets23

I agree with everything you said except that Rex is a puppet. I think all of his decisions and coaching moves are agenda based. He's extremely bull-headed and egotistical (just like his father), but he has a calmer way of showing it to the public & media.

He should have only one agenda, winning, I don't think that is his agenda though. Rex needs to go. It's too bad because I really liked him, in spite of all his horrible public speaking and his awful coordinator decisions, I wanted him to be the guy. After this month I am afraid he is not the guy. Rex is a DC and that is all.

chrisjets23 · 12-27-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by usapaw

He should have only one agenda, winning, I don't think that is his agenda though. Rex needs to go. It's too bad because I really liked him, in spite of all his horrible public speaking and his awful coodinator decisions, I wanted him to be the guy. After this month I am afraid he is not the guy. Rex is a DC and that is all.

Yup, he is no more than a glorified DC. He simply does not know how to handle adversity when things aren't going well....which is the true sign of a good/great HC. Any coach can stick out their chest when things are going well.

Warfish · 12-27-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jetman in indy

Was 11 sacks payback to McElroy?

Only if he was paying himself back.

Most of those sacks were due to him holding on to the ball like a College QB, not a Pro, and being completely unable to feel or anticipate or see pro-levels of pressure.

You generally don't get 20 minutes back there to hang out.

1....2...3....THROW IT!, throw it away, or you're getting sacked.

He didn't throw it. So he got sacked. Welcome to the NFL 101.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-27-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by usapaw

He should have only one agenda, winning, I don't think that is his agenda though. Rex needs to go. It's too bad because I really liked him, in spite of all his horrible public speaking and his awful coordinator decisions, I wanted him to be the guy. After this month I am afraid he is not the guy. Rex is a DC and that is all.

So what's his agenda, if not winning? Do tell.

usapaw · 12-27-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

So what's his agenda, if not winning? Do tell.

Go back and ask the last poster who I replied to, chrisjets23. Thanks for playing.

Charlie Brown · 12-27-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Only if he was paying himself back.

Most of those sacks were due to him holding on to the ball like a College QB, not a Pro, and being completely unable to feel or anticipate or see pro-levels of pressure.

You generally don't get 20 minutes back there to hang out.

1....2...3....THROW IT!, throw it away, or you're getting sacked.

He didn't throw it. So he got sacked. Welcome to the NFL 101.

Yep it seemed like he was extremely well coached by the Jets Cracker Jack staff to me....

chrisjets23 · 12-27-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny Testaverde's Niece

So what's his agenda, if not winning? Do tell.

His agenda is winning games like he did vs. Arizona 7-6. And look at how long it took him to actually bench Sanchez. We'll never have a great offense because it would overshadow his defense. So he'd rather win a low-scoring game with his QB turning the ball over multiple times rather than winning a high scoring game where his QB and offense is lights out. In his pressers he's claimed "his defense" will be a top 5 defense, but I've never heard him say this about the offense. Why? It's because he could care less what they do. Like I said in my other post, he's a glorified DC.

Warfish · 12-27-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Yep it seemed like he was extremely well coached by the Jets Cracker Jack staff to me....

Not going to find me defending Sparano or our Offensive Staff, but in fairness you have to actually have some talent to be able to Coach it up.

McElroy apepars to not meet that requirement IMO, except in star-struck wishful-thinking he's-our-own-Brady-maybe Fans eyes.

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Originally Posted by chrisjets23

And look at how long it took him to actually bench Sanchez.

It took him that long because he knew the Jets were tied to Sanchez financially, Tebow was a bag of ****, and McElroy doesn't belong in the NFL.

All of which is on his doorstep, cause he's the Head Coach and played at least some part in signing/aquiring these jokes.

jetman in indy · 12-27-2012, 04:25 PM

Like I said earlier, anybody blaming those sacks on anyone other than the line needs to watch the game again. Brady would have crumbled back there as well.

rayzor · 12-27-2012, 04:40 PM

payback for what exactly? he didn't throw anybody under the bus. he just stated what the other team players thought as well.

12-27-2012, 02:39 PM	#1
jetman in indy I bleed green Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 846	Was 11 sacks payback to McElroy? I have to ask this question because after watching the game again, at no time this year was there any kind of jailbreak even close to what McElroy saw last Sunday. I've tried to blame it on indecision, receivers, blitz pickups etc.,. Even against the Niners at home this year Sanchez was harassed but nothing like this. The Chargers absolutely do not have that good of a pass rush folks. Usually if it looks like s*, smells like s, it is s**! Right after the game there was a thread on here asking if the oline packed it in and I never read the thread so I don't know if anybody touched on whether or not it may have been about McElroy running his mouth last year as a rookie. Anyway, the line nearly got this kid seriously hurt last week and I do personally put it all on the line.

12-27-2012, 02:46 PM	#2
RazorJet W P S! !!!! no, i mean it. Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atkins, Arkansas Posts: 1,611	They have been cowards all year and if they gave minimal effort last Sunday, they should be fined.

12-27-2012, 02:47 PM	#3
heymangold No Relation. Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 756	The whole offensive line Lomas Brown'ed him?

12-27-2012, 02:48 PM	#4
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	McElroy got sacked a bunch but more than half of them had to do with him holding the ball far too long... He's always done it. Look back at his college numbers. One thing the guy has always done is take sacks.

12-27-2012, 03:00 PM	#6
Nike Fix it or sell it Woody! Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 3,386	with this organization anything is possible. lets hope our future gets brighter monday morning. do the right thing woody................clean house.

12-27-2012, 03:09 PM	#9
usapaw Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,743	I have loved the JETS for 45 years. I hate everything about THIS team as it is currently constructed. I was all for holding out and trying to save Rex and demote Tanny, new OC and a few players but this is the biggest cancer I have seen since Kotite and maybe worse. Rex is a puppet (and sadly not a head coach) and our owner is Al Davis. I almost hope GMAC gets released and goes to the PATS and Satan (Belly) puts him in the game, like he did with Testeverde and wipes the JETS faces in it.

12-27-2012, 04:25 PM	#19
jetman in indy I bleed green Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 846	Like I said earlier, anybody blaming those sacks on anyone other than the line needs to watch the game again. Brady would have crumbled back there as well.

12-27-2012, 04:40 PM	#20
rayzor Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 321	payback for what exactly? he didn't throw anybody under the bus. he just stated what the other team players thought as well.