BREAKING NEWS: Tannenbaum finished as Jets GM

[RMJK]

Originally Posted by augustiniak

when you call someone the 'fall guy' it implies that he's not really responsible for the failure, and he's merely being blamed to protect others. but in this instance, tannenbaum actually is to blame for a lot of the team's failures.

I'm sure there are others that have some of the blame. Coaches for example that didn't coach very well eg., Cavenaugh, Rex (burying his head in the sand last year. We brought in a wild cat OC that assumed Sanchez would be OK. Aging players, Injuries in key positions Revis and Holmes. Tebow experiment might be the owner. It is all to complicated to say Tannenbaum is responsible single handly for the plunge of the Jets; however, he is accountable.

[dmitexxi]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

Tanenbaum is the fall guy for the season. Woody was the driving force behind the Tebow disaster and if he outright fires Tanenbaum he will go to the media and expose what happened behind the Tebow trade.


I'd be shocked if we got someone big like Polian or Parcells. Our best hope is Joey Clinkscales, the guy who was forced out of the FO because he wanted nothing to do with Tebow, gets hired as GM and performs well.

Why does everyone have a hard on for this guy?? Maybe I don't get it

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

What a gutless asinine move by keeping him the organization. Two former GMs still in the organization. It is laughable that this organization thinks its a good idea to keep reassigning guys instead of firing them.

This guy gets it

Originally Posted by Borgoguy

+1 If accurate, absolutely classic SOJ move. Boot Tannenbaum, Bradway, and the rest of the clowns out of Florham Park.

+1
Spineless if you ask me

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Baddniss

Why are all of you guys fighting THIS concept?

I think this sentence (by Sooth, above) is going to be 100% correct.
Why cant MT go back to being our Cap guy?
Thats what he is best suited for.
He was good at it!

Why cant that be a separate job from GM?
In todays salary cap driven NFL, why wouldnt we want an expert/specialist handling this all-important facet (full-time) within the Jets organization?

Because he'll never just be a cap guy now with the Jets because he's also the former GM who is connected with a lot of the players on the team. There will always be that aura hanging in the air and I believe it's an uncomfortable and unnecessary environment for any new GM, no matter how experienced he may or may not be.

[Baddniss]

Originally Posted by dmitexxi

Why does everyone have a hard on for this guy??

because his brother was a JAG player...

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

What a gutless asinine move by keeping him the organization. Two former GMs still in the organization. It is laughable that this organization thinks its a good idea to keep reassigning guys instead of firing them.

Why should you or anybody care that Tannenbaum will be stay within the organization in a different role?

If Tannenbaum is serving in a role he is good at, why should any of us care, he won't be the GM, he won't be making the decisions on the team, he won't be dealing with agents, he won't be running the draft room, etc etc.

I just don't get the *****ing of this fanbase sometimes...

[ryan10]

Originally Posted by Baddniss

Why are all of you guys fighting THIS concept?

I think this sentence (by Sooth, above) is going to be 100% correct.
Why cant MT go back to being our Cap guy?
Thats what he is best suited for.
He was good at it!

Why cant that be a separate job from GM?
In todays salary cap driven NFL, why wouldnt we want an expert/specialist handling this all-important facet (full-time) within the Jets organization?

+1 mr.t can give different salary/conract structures to the new gm then its up to new gm decide if hes going to give a sanchez like extension to someone or think better for the future of the franchise..that will be the main difference..new gm calls the shots..like parcells did when mr.t came up w poison pill contract for curtis martin...it can work...theres no football ego here mr.t IS NOT A FOOTBALL GUY!!!

[patman]

Originally Posted by Buster

Because you'd know your not signing on with a heartless organization

Or the guy has a contract, which he has. His contract may say any duties as assigned.

[augustiniak]

Originally Posted by RMJK

I'm sure there are others that have some of the blame. Coaches for example that didn't coach very well eg., Cavenaugh, Rex (burying his head in the sand last year. We brought in a wild cat OC that assumed Sanchez would be OK. Aging players, Injuries in key positions Revis and Holmes. Tebow experiment might be the owner. It is all to complicated to say Tannenbaum is responsible single handly for the plunge of the Jets; however, he is accountable.

if forced to rank 'blame' for how the jets got to the state they're in, IMO:

1) tanny. traded too many picks, whiffed on a few high picks, and will forever be remembered as the guy who traded up for...

2) sanchez. never developed as hoped and has clearly regressed. turnover machine who, well, no need to bash here.

3) rex/schotty/sparano. rex gets blame for ignoring the offense for years. his ground and pound philosophy seems antiquated but considering who he has as qb, his best chance of winning was to run the ball and throw it sparingly. worse, he was bequeathed schotty, another woody fave, and then - we think - hired sparano on his own volition. it's possible tanny pushed him on rex.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by dmitexxi

Bad move to "reassign" him. What half decent GM would take a job with its predecessor still around.

Thanks Sooth

Why? WTF is this a bad move?

[Paradis]

If new owners in CLE clean house, I'm up for giving Heckert a run - at least in the personel department. CLE has drafted quite well since his involvement.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Why should you or anybody care that Tannenbaum will be stay within the organization in a different role?

If Tannenbaum is serving in a role he is good at, why should any of us care, he won't be the GM, he won't be making the decisions on the team, he won't be dealing with agents, he won't be running the draft room, etc etc.

I just don't get the *****ing of this fanbase sometimes...

For the same reason that you care that we care.

Some of us feel it will have a negative impact on the new regime.

You don't agree with that? Fine. Don't agree with it. But don't go around telling people on a message board how they should feel or how they should care.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

Because he'll never just be a cap guy now with the Jets because he's also the former GM who is connected with a lot of the players on the team. There will always be that aura hanging in the air and I believe it's an uncomfortable and unnecessary environment for any new GM, no matter how experienced he may or may not be.

Complete crap.

There is no reason to hate on Tannenbaum remaining with the team in a reassigned role.

The most important change is that he will no longer be the GM, he will no longer be "running" the organization, that is what most want, and that is what is going to happen, but that isn't good enough, fans just need to *****.

[Baddniss]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Why should you or anybody care that Tannenbaum will be stay within the organization in a different role?

If Tannenbaum is serving in a role he is good at, why should any of us care, he won't be the GM, he won't be making the decisions on the team, he won't be dealing with agents, he won't be running the draft room, etc etc.

I just don't get the *****ing of this fanbase sometimes...

Ray,

As much as I will take a lot of heat here for agreeing with YOU on any issue, I 100% agree with you on this one....

[augustiniak]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Complete crap.

There is no reason to hate on Tannenbaum remaining with the team in a reassigned role.

The most important change is that he will no longer be the GM, he will no longer be "running" the organization, that is what most want, and that is what is going to happen, but that isn't good enough, fans just need to *****.

why do they need tanny to stick around when they can pay someone less to do the same job, and not have his shadow and legacy there? the new gm should be able to pick his own capologist just as he should be able to pick his own head coach.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Jordy

For the same reason that you care that we care.

Some of us feel it will have a negative impact on the new regime.

You don't agree with that? Fine. Don't agree with it. But don't go around telling people on a message board how they should feel or how they should care.

Huh?

For the saem reason that I care that you care? WTF are you talking about?

There is NO negative impact to the team. NONE. Unless you're going to all predict he will be bad in his new role, which will most likely be back to serving in a role as capologist, or involved with player contracts, and probably some other administrative role on the team, it's a role NONE of us will ever see him peform, nor will we ever see impact of his new role against the new GM to take over.

And I'm not telling people how they should feel about it you pathetic twit, I'm asking why are people upset about it. Learn to read.

[dmitexxi]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Why? WTF is this a bad move?

Terrible move. Look at Bradway with his role as talent evaluator. He blows, Tanny blows and keeping these 2 clowns will continue to breed mediocrity.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by revischrist

In 2009, the Chicago Blackhawks hired a new GM and reassigned their former GM Talon. In the 2009-2010 season the Blackhawks won the Cup. The Blackhawks are one of the most respected franchises in Hockey.

Anymore SOJF's think good organizations don't do this?

+ 1

I just don't get the crazy responses from some of these fans.

Now fans are basically pissed off because the guy will still be on the team's payroll, it's a response of bitterness about his performance as the GM, so now he MUST be sent as far away from the team as possible in their eyes, nevermind his new role will have NO impact on the new GM.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Complete crap.

There is no reason to hate on Tannenbaum remaining with the team in a reassigned role.

The most important change is that he will no longer be the GM, he will no longer be "running" the organization, that is what most want, and that is what is going to happen, but that isn't good enough, fans just need to *****.

No. We disagree with you. You always think you're right and you expect people to fall in line with your thinking.

Well, guess what. That's not going to happen no matter how many f-bombs you drop or insults and name-calling you throw out.

[augustiniak]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

Huh?

For the saem reason that I care that you care? WTF are you talking about?

There is NO negative impact to the team. NONE. Unless you're going to all predict he will be bad in his new role, which will most likely be back to serving in a role as capologist, or involved with player contracts, and probably some other administrative role on the team, it's a role NONE of us will ever see him peform, nor will we ever see impact of his new role against the new GM to take over.

And I'm not telling people how they should feel about it you pathetic twit, I'm asking why are people upset about it. Learn to read.

tanny's presence will discourage some qualified candidates from taking the job. the outside perception will be to some that the new gm will not have all the power he's been offered. perception is as powerful as reality here.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by augustiniak

tanny's presence will discourage some qualified candidates from taking the job. the outside perception will be to some that the new gm will not have all the power he's been offered. perception is as powerful as reality here.

+1

I can't believe some people refuse to see this.