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premeteam · 12-30-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dinamite

I think AZ has a tough SOS as of last week anyway (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/b...fl-draft-order)

So we need AZ and SD to win and we can pick 8.

You're right...guess I was looking at it wrong

sg3 · 12-30-2012, 04:30 PM

az needs a miracle

sd could win their game

would that give us 9?

BrickHouse · 12-30-2012, 04:31 PM

I believe we now sit in the 8th spot in the draft order. Will see.

Play2Win · 12-30-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by poppapump

How happy are the Colts that they tanked last season?

no andrew luck or rg3 in this draft or even a trent richardson. this is hardly the season to tank anything.

jetssjumets · 12-30-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by premeteam

I believe we have jumped Tennessee. Buffalo should still pick before us based on their strength of schedule. San Diego needs to win for us to get an earlier pick (good start with the kickoff return for a TD). Even if AZ beats SF I don't believe we will pick before them. Looks like 8 or 9 right now for us.

how is Buffalo's SOS greater than the Jets? Same exact schedule except 2 games where Jets played Pitt and SD vs. Buffalo playing Clev and KC?

cant wait · 12-30-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

az needs a miracle

sd could win their game

would that give us 9?

no, we had an easier strength of schedule than SD so we'd be ahead of them in the draft at 6-10 anyway

premeteam · 12-30-2012, 04:42 PM

If SD Wins & AZ Wins

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 Buf
8 NY
9 Tenn
10 AZ

If SD Wins & AZ Loses

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 AZ
8 Buf
9 NY
10 Tenn

If SD Loses & AZ Loses

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 AZ
8 SD
9 Buf
10 NY
11 Tenn

Jordy · 12-30-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jetssjumets

how is Buffalo's SOS greater than the Jets? Same exact schedule except 2 games where Jets played Pitt and SD vs. Buffalo playing Clev and KC?

Their schedule was a bit easier so they pick ahead of us?

sg3 · 12-30-2012, 04:50 PM

correct

the team that lost the same number of games to the easier schedule is presumed worser and picks first

jetssjumets · 12-30-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Their schedule was a bit easier so they pick ahead of us?

Yes, but it was posted numerous times on this site if the Jets lose today we finish in last place. Depending on today's outcome, Jets could''ve been as high as 2nd in AFCE or in last with a loss to Buffalo. Was that info wrong?

Warfish · 12-30-2012, 04:55 PM

Picking #8 instead of #9 is fools gold. It's not an answer to a teams problems.

Being a loser or losing team is far worse than picking 2 spots later.

I'll take an 8-8 2nd place Jets picking 14th over a 6-10 last place Jets picking 8th.

As a reminder, Ghost, D-Rob and Sanchez all picked very high.

Mangold, Revis and Harris, all drafted late in the first.

Where you pick is not the answer, it's who you pick.

Dreamers · 12-30-2012, 05:02 PM

suck for Barkley

DDNYjets · 12-30-2012, 05:04 PM

Wasn't Revis #7 overall?

iahawkeyejet · 12-30-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Where you pick is not the answer, it's who you pick.

Well Obviously. But if the "who" is gone because you are picking 6 picks later, it does matter.

premeteam · 12-30-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Wasn't Revis #7 overall?

#14

Warfish · 12-30-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by iahawkeyejet

Well Obviously. But if the "who" is gone because you are picking 6 picks later, it does matter.

There is always a who worth picking. Always.

Jordy · 12-30-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

Wasn't Revis #7 overall?

14

Cleansweep2013 · 12-30-2012, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warfish

Picking #8 instead of #9 is fools gold. It's not an answer to a teams problems.

Being a loser or losing team is far worse than picking 2 spots later.

I'll take an 8-8 2nd place Jets picking 14th over a 6-10 last place Jets picking 8th.

As a reminder, Ghost, D-Rob and Sanchez all picked very high.

Mangold, Revis and Harris, all drafted late in the first.

Where you pick is not the answer, it's who you pick.

tell that to the colts, lucky SOBs.. They didnt need to decide who, although RG3 wouldnt have been a bad pick..and It would have been easier to trade up for RG3 at the 8th if Sanchez tanked last year.. Not only being closer to trade up for If he was this bad last yr MT probably would, or SHOULD have tried..

Revis wasnt late, was 14th pick, I believe we even traded up for him..

Warfish · 12-30-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleansweep2013

tell that to the colts, lucky SOBs.

Colts are unique.

They lost one of the GOAT QB's. They then bombed horribly, and many say on purpose, losing almost every game right from the start. They then Lucked' into another great QB draft with another great QB (one of THREE they could get).

We were never losing 15 games in 2012.

There is no Luck or RGIII for us to lose out for in this draft.

8th or 14th, makes absolutely no difference in this forthcoming weak draft class.

Like I said, root for what you like. I root for the Jets to win, and would prefer a respectable 8-8 2nd place finish to a pathetic drama-ridden fans in rveolt rooting for losses last place 6-10 season.

If you prefer what we have now, so be it.

Dreamers · 12-30-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by premeteam

If SD Wins & AZ Wins

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 Buf
8 NY
9 Tenn
10 AZ

If SD Wins & AZ Loses

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 AZ
8 Buf
9 NY
10 Tenn

If SD Loses & AZ Loses

1 KC
2 Jax
3 Oak
4 Philly
5 Detroit
6 Clev
7 AZ
8 SD
9 Buf
10 NY
11 Tenn

post a link I am almost certain it doesn't matter what either of them do. SD picks after us and Zona picks before regardless I believe. We beat Zona and SD beat us. I'm ready to say we pick 9th.

12-30-2012, 04:55 PM	#31
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Picking #8 instead of #9 is fools gold. It's not an answer to a teams problems. Being a loser or losing team is far worse than picking 2 spots later. I'll take an 8-8 2nd place Jets picking 14th over a 6-10 last place Jets picking 8th. As a reminder, Ghost, D-Rob and Sanchez all picked very high. Mangold, Revis and Harris, all drafted late in the first. Where you pick is not the answer, it's who you pick. Last edited by Warfish; 12-30-2012 at 05:01 PM.

12-30-2012, 04:30 PM	#22
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	az needs a miracle sd could win their game would that give us 9?

12-30-2012, 04:31 PM	#23
BrickHouse 3 Home teams and the F@ Jets Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 1,954	I believe we now sit in the 8th spot in the draft order. Will see.

12-30-2012, 04:42 PM	#27
premeteam Waterboy Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 69	If SD Wins & AZ Wins 1 KC 2 Jax 3 Oak 4 Philly 5 Detroit 6 Clev 7 Buf 8 NY 9 Tenn 10 AZ If SD Wins & AZ Loses 1 KC 2 Jax 3 Oak 4 Philly 5 Detroit 6 Clev 7 AZ 8 Buf 9 NY 10 Tenn If SD Loses & AZ Loses 1 KC 2 Jax 3 Oak 4 Philly 5 Detroit 6 Clev 7 AZ 8 SD 9 Buf 10 NY 11 Tenn

12-30-2012, 04:50 PM	#29
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	correct the team that lost the same number of games to the easier schedule is presumed worser and picks first

12-30-2012, 05:02 PM	#32
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,395	suck for Barkley

12-30-2012, 05:04 PM	#33
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,209	Wasn't Revis #7 overall?